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Rare species spores or cultures
    #1945700 - 09/23/03 09:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone know where I can find spores from the following (besides wild)?
Auricularia polytricha (Wood Ear)
Hypsizygus Tessulatus
Hypsizygus Ulmarius
Pholiota Nameko
Hericeum Erineus
Hypholoma capnoides
Hypholoma Sublateritium
Agrocybe Aegerita

I looked at FMRC pretty hard, couldn't find any and I don't want to pay for a culture. However, I would trade for cultures of any of them. I do not have any cultures, just two 24"x18" HEPA filters and charcoal prefilters of the same size. Thanks.


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: YidakiMan]
    #1945905 - 09/23/03 10:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wood ear you might buy some dry ones at a chinese grocery and get some viable spores that way.
Hypsizygus Tessulatus is carried in some specialty grocers as King trumpet. You could clone that one and make your own spore print.


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: falcon]
    #1946330 - 09/24/03 12:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I might be making a wrong assumption, but wouldn't a dry mushroom have tons and tons of contaminant spores on them? On more than one occasion, I have spotted a rotting package of Elite dryed mushrooms.


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: YidakiMan]
    #1946671 - 09/24/03 02:47 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, your're right. And it's similar with the spore prints taken from grocery store fresh mushrooms. That's why almost nobody starts edibles from spores.


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: zeronio]
    #1947183 - 09/24/03 09:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm. I think I can understand why. But what can I say, I just got my flowhood up and running and I like doing isolations. Then again, the only thing I have against buying a culture is its cost. Got any ideas? I know that FMRC is one of the largest spore depositaries... if they don't have it, am I screwed?


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: YidakiMan]
    #1948540 - 09/24/03 05:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think you are missing the point, which is that many people DO clone store bought mushrooms via tissue culture. With your setup, you should have no problem isolating sterile tissue onto agar, provided you can find a well stocked grocer.

My first 15 or so clones were arrived at in this way.

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Re: Rare species spores [Re: armedia]
    #1948945 - 09/24/03 07:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I called grocery stores around town (milwaukee, wi) today.  The only species available are button(various forms), shittake and oyster.  Just by chance, I found chantrelles as well.  They are not normally available, so I bought a half pound of those.  :laugh: :laugh: 
Anyway, I am going to tissue clone some oysters and buttons as well as attempt through a print.  Creekfarmer was kind enough to send me two shiitake prints from mushrooms he grew.  I will be working with those as well. 
However, the species that I listed above I am still lacking.  I would tissue clone, but I can't find 'em fresh.  Perhaps soon, I may try calling around Chicago to find them.  Another other option is buying the culture from Stamets or ATCC or Penn State which I cannot afford.   


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: YidakiMan]
    #1949329 - 09/24/03 09:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, if you are going to start buying cultures go to http://www.mushroompeople.com/cat2000/frames.html

they are at the very least cheaper. I would also suggest just taking it easy and getting some technique down before you start plunking down cash for cultures. Take a walk in the woods, the stuff you find there is free.


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: r05c03]
    #1949411 - 09/24/03 09:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Edited this brash post. I edited the first post to indicate that I would be interested in trading for cultures of any on the list above. I cannot afford to buy a culture. The Mushroom People are far more reasonable in their prices, but still outside of a desirable price.


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: YidakiMan]
    #1949567 - 09/24/03 10:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Your probably right. I wouldn't count out wild prints though, at least from the hypholomas. I think you would have a goood chance of getting a clean print.


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Re: Rare species spores [Re: falcon]
    #1949631 - 09/24/03 11:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Clones from the store and the woods are likely to work just fine for some one just getting into gourment shrooms. Get some technique down and worry about rare and exotic stuff once you have got some sort of sytem worked out. Just a suggestion. Above all, mushrooms require patience.


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