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19x
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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: Perfect]
#19456561 - 01/22/14 08:35 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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actually my outside source funded this project so they kind of have a say in how i do things. i know it hurts to watch the beautiful organism suffering. maybe i should melt the holes bigger? i have been fanning / misting as prescribed. my rh is at 98% however i think it may be varying at different parts of the chamber as some cakes are not bruised at all ( the dunked and rolled ones look like theyre holding water just fine). the bruised ones look like theyre begging for a drink even though ive been misting them just as well. should i redunk some of them? alot of these questions i really already know the answer to. my outside source refuses to listen to what i have to say about what ive read because hes produced before without these issues. he thinks the tek is a load of crap and got really nervous when i started poking holes in the fc. his idea was to put them in a fish tank with about an inch of perlite at the bottom and a reptile heating pad underneath, yet was against me fanning more than 5 times in a day and totally against misting. i told him he had his info from outdated teks and intel, and that everyone here says to go by RRs advice. he just keeps getting more irritated every time i mention "RR said to do this, and so does everyone else". i appreciate all the help that everyones trying to give even though its annoying to have to repeat yourself. i think if it were explained thouroughly in a non condesending manner (which i have already done, he just wont take my word for it) by someone on here with a good rating, maybe hell start to listen. we still have 1 colonized jar not birthed yet. its been colonized for about a week. right now his concern is merely producing ONE MUSHROOM so that we dont need to order spores again. i suggested letting that bastard just pin right in the jar. im getting sick of putting all this patience and effort into learning and reading as much as i can about this hobby in order to not make my sources investment in vain. like i said before i have no problem being patient and waiting and going according to tek, but its my sources call most of the time not mine. he thinks i "royally fucked up" the project by trying to make a sgfc. someone please tell me im somewhat on the right path!
-------------------- "all the money in the world could'nt buy me a second of trust, or one ounce of faith in anything youre about.. FUCK YOU AAAAAALLLLLL!!!"
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HypnotoadCroaked
Retired, but will check MSGs


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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: 19x]
#19456579 - 01/22/14 08:47 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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19x said: actually my outside source.....
Have them do some reading and growing on their own. No matter how you slice it, think about the ramifications of doing someone's dirty work for them. If you have a 3rd party dictating your actions, your best bet (IMHO) is to give them everything and let them manage it. Tell him to do the work if he is being critical of you making corrective actions to his "Reagan-Administration-Tek".
Overall, from your last post I think you will do best to give it back to the outside source or throw it out. If what you are saying is true, you are getting the shaft, and will continue to get it.
Tell him to read the "PF Tek" that is listed at the bottom of my signature, but either way I would get all of that out of your house.
You seem to have a realistic handle on what tek is going to work best. Do your own cultivation to avoid issues like this AND POSSIBLY worse.
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blindingleaf
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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: 19x]
#19456591 - 01/22/14 08:52 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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if ur chamber is indeed 98% u r somewhat on the right path, but dunking for all cakes would have been better. as the cake colonizes it will loose moisture, even more so when in between the initial birth and pin formation. mushroom are made of ~90% water, so when u dunk, u add the "ingredients" necessary for proper fruit formation. ur "outside funder" may only want one fruit for a print, thats cool, i get it (if u have agar). but ask him if he wants one 1/2" cap print or several 3" cap prints... for just the added "work" of keep a cake submerged in water for a day or less. seems like an obvious yes.
also, u can dunk a cake that has previously not been dunked but put into fruiting conditions as far as i know. (I would)
worst comes to worst, u will get a fruit, print it, and hopefully go to agar. I'm gonna snidely assume this "funded friend" who goes with outdated info will want to make an lc with this print? or am i wrong and he/she just wants a print to "scrape" onto a brf cake?
not trying to b mean, please don't think that. i wanna help. seems like u have done ur reading, and maybe he/she has not?
ps. just ready toads post, he must have been typing same time as me (mushroom communication again whippy ) and i second his iterations
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: blindingleaf]
#19456619 - 01/22/14 09:02 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: ps. just ready toads post, he must have been typing same time as me (mushroom communication again whippy ) and i second his iterations
I just find the whole thing sounding odd and convoluted. There should be NO reason at all do cultivate for someone else. EVER. Do it for yourself, by yourself and tell no one. Here you have a situation where you could be in a great deal of trouble over something that IS YOURS in the eyes of the law. Your "Outside source" sounds like a real wanker, and I am going to go out on a limb and tell you IF you ever cultivate for yourself DO NOT TELL THIS PERSON SPECIFICALLY. Do not tell anyone no matter what, but your description of this "outside source" sounds like someone who would roll over on you in an instant. I appreciate totally however that not once did you use the word "friend". You seem to have a grasp on reality and people.
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19x
lachrymologist


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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: blindingleaf]
#19456622 - 01/22/14 09:03 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah my source just wants a print to make a syringe from. he thinks that will solve all the problems. i disagree that it will solve anything if were not fruiting in the correct conditions. thank you very much again for the input. you said exactly what i thought you would. i just awnted my source to hear it from someone else. what would really make my day isw if RR were to come here and confirm to my source that we are indeed giving him sound information that will only lead to more success. i dont know why my source even needs that confirmation to tell you the truth. i have already brought up tons of RR quotes to them and all it does is annoy them thinking that i think i know more on the subject when i have never personally produced. i keep telling him "RRs pictures dont lie", "positive results dont lie", "science doesnt lie!!". im sure you all can see the frustration. i feel like im playing a game of tug of war and the "rope" is our innocent b+ and gt cakes. i feel so bad for them. kind of like a caring parent watching their child suffer but not being able to give them what they need.
-------------------- "all the money in the world could'nt buy me a second of trust, or one ounce of faith in anything youre about.. FUCK YOU AAAAAALLLLLL!!!"
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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: 19x]
#19456717 - 01/22/14 09:38 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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19x said: I feel so bad for them. kind of like a caring parent watching their child suffer but not being able to give them what they need.
Don't feel bad. Most caring parents have no desire to eat their children. \
If conditions are poor, you will not even get a cap to get a print from.
Like has been said, the RR videos concerning the Shot-gun-fruiting-chamber provide the best info for fruiting cakes. If he don't comprehend logic, let him do it. What is going to happen is that you will be blamed for the failure, when anyone with a few working brain cells can identify the SGFC design.
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19x
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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
#19456756 - 01/22/14 09:50 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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HypnotoadCroaked said:
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19x said: I feel so bad for them. kind of like a caring parent watching their child suffer but not being able to give them what they need.
Don't feel bad. Most caring parents have no desire to eat their children. \
rofl. that truly made me burst into laughter hypnotoad i hope what you said clears my sources mind and subsequently makes him allow me to give them what they need in order to thrive. thankks again for the input.
-------------------- "all the money in the world could'nt buy me a second of trust, or one ounce of faith in anything youre about.. FUCK YOU AAAAAALLLLLL!!!"
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19x
lachrymologist


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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sgfc [Re: 19x]
#19456837 - 01/22/14 10:11 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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for the record.. the 5th pic in the original post is a new nebula discovered by nasa recently. they named it "the hand of god". i just figured id throw it in there. seems like something i might see after eating some of my golden teachers that WILL inevitably fruit whether they like it or not. just trying to stay positive. there is a myth that talking to and admiring plants will make them stay healthy and thrive. im wondering if the same is true for fungi. i give them periods of admiration for several minutes after im done misting/fanning almost every time. im pretty sure this has no scientific benefit, but again im just trying to stay positive. even though i dont believe in "god" i thought the picture of this nebula would add some positive outlook to this project, especially since its involving a strain called "golden teachers"
-------------------- "all the money in the world could'nt buy me a second of trust, or one ounce of faith in anything youre about.. FUCK YOU AAAAAALLLLLL!!!"
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Kizzle
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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sgfc [Re: 19x]
#19460339 - 01/22/14 11:23 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's not really only heating the chamber if it's elevated above it. Worst case scenario he'll get a little condensation. Not the end of the world.
Worst case scenario is you dry out the substrate and get tiny mushrooms. Adding heat lowers the RH at the same time. It's best to keep any heat source as far away from the chamber as possible.
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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sgfc [Re: Kizzle]
#19460976 - 01/23/14 04:48 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kizzle said:
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It's not really only heating the chamber if it's elevated above it. Worst case scenario he'll get a little condensation. Not the end of the world.
Worst case scenario is you dry out the substrate and get tiny mushrooms. Adding heat lowers the RH at the same time. It's best to keep any heat source as far away from the chamber as possible.
I second this indirect heat ftw!
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19x
lachrymologist


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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: Perfect]
#19485708 - 01/28/14 11:11 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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hey just thought id update.. i followed the advice and fixed my sgfc according to the tek. go check out my other updated threads. i have shroomies now. 2 of my golden teacher cakes have since developed awesome pinsets right on the top of the casing layer. and i had some pe6 jars that pinned invirto due to what i believe is bacteria. had to create a seperate fc with minimal materials. go check out my threads/pics and tell me what you think.
-------------------- "all the money in the world could'nt buy me a second of trust, or one ounce of faith in anything youre about.. FUCK YOU AAAAAALLLLLL!!!"
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vikingsc
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Re: update on my grow :) teachers and b+ . sg fc [Re: 19x]
#19485863 - 01/28/14 11:47 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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