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itinkitook2much
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First mono spawn,
#19456014 - 01/22/14 02:55 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pretty quick results.. I spawned 3 days ago.. got at least an inche of peat/gypsum over 1/2 inch colonized substrate which is over 1 inch verm/gypsum
       1 - Is this rot/contam or mycelium running? 2 - I just put the light on right now, do I leave it? 12/12 6500k fluo 3 - Does humidity look good? (forgot about hygrometer) all holes are taped. 4 - From here on,(if it's proper colonizing & not rot/contam) how long until i switch tape for polyfill? Thanks guys
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1. Idk. I can't see what you think is rot. 2.Yes 12/12. Indirect light for colonizing direct for fruiting. During all stages even in the jars. 3.You can't see humidity but its fine. 4.When its fully colonized.
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Thats mycelium light is good, keep the 12/12 EDIT: sorry relooked. You moisture is good. Whats the temp your keeping at? Fruit when 100% colonized on top. Usually 1-2 weeks. Cant really get more specific than that.
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magickspore said: 1. Idk. I can't see what you think is rot. 2.Yes 12/12. Indirect light for colonizing direct for fruiting. During all stages even in the jars. 3.You can't see humidity but its fine. 4.When its fully colonized.
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: mushmagic]
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wait, I'm sorry i don't get it. u spawned to what substrate? u mentioned it is sitting on layer of verm, so did u not mix everything up? and after mixing/layering/(maybe u just have colonized grains?) u put casing on, then put in into spawn run mode with holes taped? usually ppl case after sub is 100%, maybe thats what u did and I'm just and not reading it right.
ps love the animal collective signature! whats that from?
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blindingleaf said: wait, I'm sorry i don't get it. u spawned to what substrate? u mentioned it is sitting on layer of verm, so did u not mix everything up? and after mixing/layering/(maybe u just have colonized grains?) u put casing on, then put in into spawn run mode with holes taped? usually ppl case after sub is 100%, maybe thats what u did and I'm just and not reading it right.
ps love the animal collective signature! whats that from?
I love the artwork..It's from my 2nd fav album.. "Feels" look it up.. My first fav one is "Campfire songs" god that's a fucking perfect album.(maybe because of the memories/feelings I've got attached along with the music.... anyways onto the mushrooms lol
Here's what I did.. Knocked up a BRF cake It was 100% colonized when I chopped it up I put it over 1 inch verm/gypsum I put 1 inch peat moss/gypsum over the colonized substrate
SO it looks kinda like dis
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magickspore said: 1. Idk. I can't see what you think is rot.
Still very new to this.. I'm glad it isn't
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magickspore said: 3.You can't see humidity but its fine.
can't see it, but you can see the water on the walls that are still there after 3 days of non spraying. Good enough?
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magickspore said: 1. Idk. I can't see what you think is rot.
Still very new to this.. I'm glad it isn't
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magickspore said: 3.You can't see humidity but its fine.
can't see it, but you can see the water on the walls that are still there after 3 days of non spraying. Good enough?
Lol that's condensation and arguably has nothing to do with humidity. Don't worry about humidity.
The only time humidity matters is when you fruit and that's split into two things. RH in the chamber so your fruits don't dry up. And evaporation off the substrate which will give you a 100% humidity where it really matters at the surface of the substrate.
Once you get to fruiting, you mist then fan and that gives you the evap/humidity that is needed. You should be fanning a few times a day and misting only when the sub is dry. That ebb and flow of humidty is one of the major pinning triggers.
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magickspore said:
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itinkitook2much said:
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magickspore said: 1. Idk. I can't see what you think is rot.
Still very new to this.. I'm glad it isn't
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magickspore said: 3.You can't see humidity but its fine.
can't see it, but you can see the water on the walls that are still there after 3 days of non spraying. Good enough?
Lol that's condensation and arguably has nothing to do with humidity. Don't worry about humidity.
lolwut? con·den·sa·tion ˌkänˌdenˈsāSHən,-dən-/Submit noun 1. water that collects as droplets on a cold surface when humid air is in contact with it.
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I'm already aware about the rest tho, did a little reading before starting the mono thanks for sharing! edit:wait.. You're saying humidity at this point is not important?.. at all ?
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Ok what this "Lol that's condensation and arguably has nothing to do with humidity" Means is you will still have condensation at 10%RH and 100%RH. You can't tell the humidity in a tub based off of condensation. In our "line of work" judging a tubs RH based off of condensation is what we call a fail.
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magickspore said: Ok what this "Lol that's condensation and arguably has nothing to do with humidity" Means is you will still have condensation at 10%RH and 100%RH. You can't tell the humidity in a tub based off of condensation. In our "line of work" judging a tubs RH based off of condensation is what we call a fail.
Well now I know.
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magickspore said: Ok what this "Lol that's condensation and arguably has nothing to do with humidity" Means is you will still have condensation at 10%RH and 100%RH. You can't tell the humidity in a tub based off of condensation. In our "line of work" judging a tubs RH based off of condensation is what we call a fail.
Well now I know.
Sorry I just re-read it. I was abit of a dick huh? My apologies. I'm in alot of pain (just had an abscess wisdom tooth pulled today) and I can't sleep.
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At least you've got the balls to admit you sounded like one Makes u a fake dick. Real dicks fuckin suck,know it and dont say sorry for being one haha
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i know its from the feels album, but the pic u have a different than the regular album, i was just wondering what, if anything, it was from? the linear notes?
in terms of ur tub, 1 brf cake is really really small amy of spawn, especially b/c u didn't boost it with any other nutrients like coir or hpoo. i'd say if the entire thing is deep enough to hold its own moisture, then u should b ok (but that tub, those holes, look too large for a casing project with such few ingredients IME). while a casing is colonizing, its good to be right at field capacity, even going a bit drier (but still visibly moist) to let the myc spread thru it faster. when u put into fruiting conditions, get the casing more and more moist by daily spraying so the substrate can be "watered" in a way by ur casing, and the growing shrooms can pull from that moisture.
I'm no expert by any mean, here is a good pinning strategy specifically for casings
hyphae's pinning strategy
take note of the pics and moisture content on surface of casing towards the end of the post, i base me casings on those pics
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blindingleaf said: i know its from the feels album, but the pic u have a different than the regular album, i was just wondering what, if anything, it was from? the linear notes?
in terms of ur tub, 1 brf cake is really really small amy of spawn, especially b/c u didn't boost it with any other nutrients like coir or hpoo. i'd say if the entire thing is deep enough to hold its own moisture, then u should b ok (but that tub, those holes, look too large for a casing project with such few ingredients IME). while a casing is colonizing, its good to be right at field capacity, even going a bit drier (but still visibly moist) to let the myc spread thru it faster. when u put into fruiting conditions, get the casing more and more moist by daily spraying so the substrate can be "watered" in a way by ur casing, and the growing shrooms can pull from that moisture.
I'm no expert by any mean, here is a good pinning strategy specifically for casings
hyphae's pinning strategy
take note of the pics and moisture content on surface of casing towards the end of the post, i base me casings on those pics
I don't know if it's linear note artwork but it's awesome lol..I looked up ac on google image and searched through a couple pages..
Thanks I'l start reading now
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I put in a cheap hygrometer and it says about 85% RH ....... too low ?
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itinkitook2much said: I put in a cheap hygrometer and it says about 85% RH ....... too lowCHINEASE ?
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
#19462764 - 01/23/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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itinkitook2much said: I put in a cheap hygrometer and it says about 85% RH ....... too lowCHINEASE ?
YEP
so what would be the logical thing to do from here :\ ..
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if you have beads of moisture acrross the surface of your sub stop worrying about humidity, if it drys up mist it
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
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beads of moisture ?
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can you see moisture on the surface?
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
#19462805 - 01/23/14 02:16 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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ah, that's what i thought you meant.. yeah it's still pretty moist
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then don't worry about humidity, and we use condensation to judge the amount of fae we are getting not humidity
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
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Don't we need proper FAE during fruiting and proper Gas exchange for colonize ?
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are you still colonizing?
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
#19462955 - 01/23/14 02:49 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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well.. I don't think it is fully colonized.. there's not much difference now from the pics I've uploaded in the previous page..
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well you shouldn't have cased until it was colonized!
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
#19463303 - 01/23/14 04:03 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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the evil armies of bacteria don't play, u gotta wait till ur substrates stuck together and it will never betray!
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So basicly, I messed up ..? lol That sounds like an important part that I've skipped
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not the worst case lol, it's just now gonna be a part of your sub and not a casing layer, let it finish colonizing and fruit it
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: not the worst case lol, it's just now gonna be a part of your sub and not a casing layer, let it finish colonizing and fruit it
I was going to use franks tek but I used what was laying around that I've read from an other thread someone told me to case this and I just threw it in a monotub freestyle..
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thanks y'all !
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
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itinkitook2much said: I put in a cheap hygrometer and it says about 85% RH ....... too lowCHINEASE ?
YEP
Once it is actually time to fruit.. will the 85% RH be a problem and if so what does i have to do to make it 100 ? Tape the lid?
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no it won't be an issue, as long as your surface has visible moisture it has 1000%
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Re: First mono spawn, [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: no it won't be an issue, as long as your surface has visible moisture it has 1000%
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oops i meant 100 lol
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cronicr said:
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itinkitook2much said: I put in a cheap hygrometer and it says about 85% RH ....... too lowCHINEASE ?
YEP
so what would be the logical thing to do from here :\ ..
Start over and read up on some actual tek from trusted and or experienced cultivators. So much About your grow confuses me.
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cronicr said:
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itinkitook2much said: I put in a cheap hygrometer and it says about 85% RH ....... too lowCHINEASE ?
YEP
so what would be the logical thing to do from here :\ ..
Start over and read up on some actual tek from trusted and or experienced cultivators. So much About your grow confuses me.
Oh yes I'm starting all over, more research more reading,, will do franks coir tek.. what confuses you?
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yea follow all his teks to a t. it will work if u have clean grains/spawn and u properly pasteurize (or sterilize if using just coir/verm).
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blindingleaf said: yea follow all his teks to a t. it will work if u have clean grains/spawn and u properly pasteurize (or sterilize if using just coir/verm).
I've got a couple of jars almost fully colonized .. going to buy coir.. can't wait to get started!
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