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magickspore



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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: Earthshaker]
#19457488 - 01/22/14 12:55 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Earthshaker said: I just tried to give honest advice. I won't do it anymore.
Earthshaker please don't stop trying to help. We will correct you were necessary. BUT please do try to get up to date teks before you post again. If you are ever unsure about what you are posting, post it anyways or post it in a question, just don't get upset when "we" correct it or call you out on it.
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baldwintpenguin
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19457503 - 01/22/14 12:58 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Every time I grow I try WBS, I understand the value of it but I followed several teks to a T, but I always am off a little not somewhere and get too soggy or something so my colonization sucks, plus the stuff stinks more, makes more of a mess, etc....but by God I'll still try til I get it
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19458511 - 01/22/14 04:30 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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baldwintpenguin said: I use a similar set up, only I use popcorn instead of rye. Keep the poly loose,lose the fan.
Also when I do monos I open the tubs every few days, no fanning needed, that's the point of the poly.
On colonization I wait until the tub has colonized 100%. 98-99% vs 100% has made the differences for me between monsters and wimps, many tubs I don't even introduce fruiting conditions until I see pins.
I use multiple to popcorn, bucket Tek with coir/verm in a monotub
Through trial and error from the above I've got it down to getting these regularly

Obviously popcorn works as you have shown and experienced; however you might think about switching to a different grain. Although I advocate don't fix it if it aint broke you can have better spawn ratios and less work if you go with smaller grains like WBS and Rye. They have more "inoculation" power since the individual grains are smaller. They're also "easier" to prepare and you could lower your spawn substrate ratios and end up with the same size harvests. Just something to ponder.
I have to disagree on this one. I have used pf cakes, rye, wbs and still my favorite grain is popcorn. It really is no more difficult than any of the other grains. In fact in my experience it is easier to get the moisture right for popcorn than wbs. I also have huge yields from the popcorn so no issue there.
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insutama
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19463693 - 01/23/14 05:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks for all the replys here are some pictures from today nothing much has changed should i pick the ones that are maturing or wait to harest till most are ready ? If the tubs are getting too much air flow would that cause smaller fruits ?

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blindingleaf
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: insutama]
#19463760 - 01/23/14 05:44 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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i still refer to stamet's books 
but for cubes i stick with shroomery
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: insutama]
#19464239 - 01/23/14 07:14 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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insutama said: thanks for all the replys here are some pictures from today nothing much has changed should i pick the ones that are maturing or wait to harest till most are ready ? If the tubs are getting too much air flow would that cause smaller fruits ?


If the caps fully open you should pick them and then wait for the others, looks like you got sonme pretty good fruits coming in
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blindingleaf
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: LiquidGlass]
#19464303 - 01/23/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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its hard to see the sub. are there droplets on it? i also don;t see much condensation on the walls of the tub (some will say it doesn't matter and is not an indicator of humidity, some will say for tubs its a good indicator of humidity and fresh air exchange with dry circumference around top holes). for knotting/pin set, get that shit at 100%. if i had to guess id say the humidity was too low during ur pin set stage and only those areas on top of the sub that were moist enough got the pins. line ur tub net time too, and those side pins will hopefully turn into top pins!
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insutama
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Wooohoooo They turned out great i cant believe i doubted myself however on one tub there was a bit of green mold so i used a clean spoon and scooped out the little bit of substrate hope it doesn't spread its been 3 days tho and cant see it anywhere anyway as promised here are some more pics
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: insutama]
#19477936 - 01/26/14 05:58 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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That second picture looks contaminated as fuck. Get as many fruits as you can from it but deffinatly isolate that tub!
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: tripmob]
#19478153 - 01/26/14 06:54 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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i can't tell if its contam, looks more like u just cut stems at the base and they bruised, but its also blurry so i can't tell for sure
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insutama
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ya thats just were i cut the shrooms i left the little stems i hope thats okay i use to twist the shroooms off but that would pull up too much substrate so i read somewhere that cutting them as close to the substrate as possible with a razor works good.
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: insutama]
#19478481 - 01/26/14 07:10 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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yea, u have read right! I still twist and pull when i have to. the beginning of a harvest is always the hardest. its difficult getting a hand down there when the flush is large, let a lone a razor blade.
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OldDirtyBathrobe
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IME....reasonably fresh, properly made and stored, homemade syringes beat a 'store bought' product all day....in particularly for knocking up grains. Just a personal opinion there. If you can take some prints from that flush....do so. Make your own syringes or do agar work....best way to go (for cubes, anyway)
I am certain that many people who viewed your first couple photos of the pinning knew that you would have a reasonable size flush...just got to give them time and then all of a sudden BAM
I'm not too crazy about harvesting cube tubs with a knife and leaving those big-ass stumps. Many cube varieties grown on WBS/coir/verm seem the twist and pull off rather nicely with no extreme damage to the substrate surface....AND you can still get a nice 2nd and 3rd flush. It's just your personal preference along with how tenaciously attached to the substrate the fruit bodies are.
Dunk that tub and go for a second flush. If there was some green on the substrate, it may 'bloom' a few days after the dunk. Toss it then. But I'd say it's worth a shot at a second flush
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Kizzle
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Those bruised stumps are all perfectly normal. I know the shock the first time you see them after doing the twist'n'pull method but they really are harmless.
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: Kizzle]
#19480091 - 01/27/14 04:47 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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The top left corner of the second pic looks a little....off. I would keep an eye on that one.
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: insutama]
#19480284 - 01/27/14 07:29 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think maybe your original problem was that you were misting. You're not supposed to mist before the first flush according to many on shroomery. I don't have the experience to say for sure but I read a post from FrankHorrigan, a TC, who said he had a tub and the pins were not doing well and he eventually figured out that misting was stunting the fruits. Too much water is detrimental. Misting apparently is for flushes 2 + 3 etc. I see nothing wrong with the 50/50 bucket tek for true pasteurization. Stick a turkey thermometer into the hot coir and monitor the heat. If it stays above 140F how can you go wrong? If it's cooling too much wrap it in a layer of plastic(tarp/visqueen) or blanket or whatever helps insulate it.
Also: Cronicr says " only need to mist when the surface starts to dry up ... just let the surface of your sub do the talking for you, misting gives you your 100% humidity on the surface of your substrate as it evaporates, you can judge what needs tweaking by how fast/slow the surface drys up "
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: invitro]
#19480302 - 01/27/14 07:37 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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The mean green will be back. Trich myc is as white as cube myc. I beat it back until the end of the first flush once by torching the area with a small butane torch. Careful of the plastic. Other than that time, its always been back in a few days tops. You'll likely see it before today is over.
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bodhisatta 
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yep, there is no getting rid of trich, only the Trash TEK works on it.
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: bodhisatta]
#19481138 - 01/27/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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insutama
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Re: What am i doing wrong ?? [Re: tripmob]
#19485859 - 01/28/14 11:46 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks for all the posts i just dunked the tubs for a couple hrs and put some wax paper over the substrate hopfully get a nice second flush i got about 2 oz's dry first flush if i get a decent second flush i will take some prints
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