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Re: about to birth [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19452642 - 01/21/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Me eather and should I bucket pasturize the coir/verm?


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Re: about to birth [Re: Kalsticky]
    #19452658 - 01/21/14 12:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

grab a paint thinner bag from home depot. load it up with w/e bulk sub mixture you want. and grab a candy thermometer if you can. I've tried bucket, pot boiling, and jar pastereurizing and definitely have had worst luck with bucket. just not reliable enough for the mushroom field i'm sad to say


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Re: about to birth [Re: Crazymofomonk]
    #19452761 - 01/21/14 12:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

to make it easier, if u have the means to do so, u can pc sterilize it so u don't have to babysit it if it is just coir/verm


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Re: about to birth [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19452909 - 01/21/14 01:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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to make it easier, if u have the means to do so, u can pc sterilize it so u don't have to babysit it if it is just coir/verm




you sure about that dude? from what I gather after the spawn. you don't sterilize anything. pasteurize only. especially coir users I hear complain a lot lot bout trich


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Re: about to birth [Re: Crazymofomonk]
    #19452952 - 01/21/14 01:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: about to birth [Re: cronicr]
    #19453012 - 01/21/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

lol surprised me! holy shit and he got 4 flushes. I can get coir but damn if only i didn't have horse pastures as far as the eye could see.


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Re: about to birth [Re: cronicr]
    #19453044 - 01/21/14 01:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't want to buy a PC yet so ill properly pasturize to get in the habit. I'll probaly use Franks pasteurization tek. also what are your yields from half pint cakes spawned to coir/verm?


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Re: about to birth [Re: Kalsticky]
    #19453068 - 01/21/14 01:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

same kind of yields you get in any typical bulks. just make sure you break your cakes up enough that they can get a lot of inoculation points into your substrate.


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Re: about to birth [Re: Crazymofomonk]
    #19453079 - 01/21/14 01:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

also remember their only 1/3 grain


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Re: about to birth [Re: cronicr]
    #19453140 - 01/21/14 02:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

case it with quick dry cement for optimum yields  :rofl:


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Re: about to birth [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19453292 - 01/21/14 02:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Pouring the cement as we speak  :dawerp: Any good ratios for cakes? I think I'm going to do 4 cakes for first try. Thanks for the help everybody. I wouldn't know shit without shroomery.


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Re: about to birth [Re: Kalsticky]
    #19453331 - 01/21/14 03:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Pouring the cement as we speak  :dawerp: Any good ratios for cakes? I think I'm going to do 4 cakes for first try. Thanks for the help everybody. I wouldn't know shit without shroomery.




Also how deep should the substrate be?


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Re: about to birth [Re: Kalsticky]
    #19453770 - 01/21/14 04:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

that little try i have in the pics in above post is about 2.5 inches deep maybe 6 inches long and 4 inches wide.  i used one brf cake (crumbled in plastic ziplock) and spawned to maybe a quart of coir/verm/coffee.  i forget how much exactly, but it fill the entire 2.5 inch container almost (1/3 inch left at top).  it had a lid that hinged on the short sides, not a perfect seal, so it allowed GE for spawn run.  I let it sit with lid on till i saw knots and pins, then put into SGFC like it is in the pic.  u don't have to wait for pins, but that time i did.  i think i got 3 flushes total, each subsequent flush demising in yield, as is standard.  first flush, in that pic, 189 g fresh.



some will say don't use coffee, i have only NOT used it twice.  it apparently can fall to con tams easily, but i have not had an issue with that, knock on wood.  i use the cheapest shit i can buy, for drinking and spawning.  its this:



my brain fart theory is that when u use good coffee, like starbucks, its very oily.  even when u buy a cup of coffee from them, look at it black before pouring anything in, and u can see the oil from the roasted bean floating on top.  i think the more oily the coffee (which higher quality coffee/beans have more oil) the more prone to contam it will be (similar to growers adding soybean/other kind of oil to make substrate more nutritious but when adding too much it get bacteria/contamination easier, so it is supplemented at a low rate).  the shitty maxwell house is dryer IMO oil wise, and more suitable for use in substrates.  but like i said, that is just my stoned ape theory, no info to back it up other than day to day experiences.

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Kalsticky said:I wouldn't know shit without shroomery.




QFT me too dude, i learned how to do that whole grow (my first bulk style grow) all from here, with help from all these guys.  i love it


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Re: about to birth [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19454097 - 01/21/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How much water do you use to pasturize the quart of coir/verm? I'm for sure going to try this.


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Re: about to birth [Re: Kalsticky]
    #19454361 - 01/21/14 06:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if u have a qt mason jar or similar sized glass cup/container/jar (like spaghetti sauce jar) put ur coir/verm (80%/20%) in after getting it to field capacity (u can use tap water, just add, keep stirring till its potting soil like consistency.  take a handful and squeeze medium, if a few drip come out ur good, if a stream comes out, its too moist, add more verm or squeeze water out into sink) and put into stock pot that had lid hopefully.  fill 1/3-1/2 with water, bring to low boil.  if u have thermometer, stick it in so it is reading the center of the soil in jar.  when it hits 140 start an hour count down u want it to stay between 140-160 for full hour for pasteurization, but with coir/verm u can just keep it longer or let it get hotter, because it can still be used if sterilized.

franks coir prep tek

franks proper pasteurization tek

that is where i learned it all :rockon:


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Re: about to birth [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19454366 - 01/21/14 06:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thanks man.


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Re: about to birth [Re: Kalsticky]
    #19454613 - 01/21/14 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no prob man!  i really wish u luck, if i can do it, you can do it!  its a great learning experience too, a little more involved than cakes, but well wroth it because u actually feel like u did something more than pop something out of a jar, and an important step in the hobby!


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Re: about to birth [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19461087 - 01/23/14 06:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

All 5 cakes are either showing little baby pins or almost mature ones for the 2nd flush. One of my cakes look like a second huge pinset is going to come in. Will update







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Re: about to birth [Re: Kalsticky]
    #19461915 - 01/23/14 10:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Picked up some coir and going to crumble one brf cake then mix with coir/verm. Will post pics when its in container.


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Re: about to birth [Re: Kalsticky]
    #19463087 - 01/23/14 03:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

make sure u pasteurize or sterilize if before adding the cumbered brf cake!  but yes do post pics!


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