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Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help
#19452356 - 01/21/14 11:25 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey guys! I am new to the forum so please let me know if I did something wrong with this post! If I did I am sorry.
b2t:
I got a B+ starter kit which is growing some mushrooms. Since it is my first time I dont reall know if the mushrooms are okay.
I am warming them a lot, but now there is some water in the bag -> too much heat? would like u to tell me how my mushrooms are looking, how long until I will have to harvest?
I hope you can help me I would be very thankful! (sorry for those big pics)


Edited by rofllol (01/21/14 11:30 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19452408 - 01/21/14 11:36 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Read the first link in my signature. Basically Grow kits are more of a rip off than the shit grandparents buy off of as seen on TV ads. Don't heat up your bags room temperature is fine above 75F and they don't go faster above 83F and they stall out and slow down. 65-75F is perfect.
Those mushrooms are starving for air.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (01/21/14 11:37 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19452419 - 01/21/14 11:39 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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LET THAT POOR THING BREATHE!!
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: magickspore]
#19452428 - 01/21/14 11:40 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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also learn about picture uploads. You can do it right to the shroomery and avoid having threads that get all mangled with huge images.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19452432 - 01/21/14 11:41 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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thank you very much! I started with a kit since I felt more comfortable with it. But I am willing to improve myself 
what do you think about the pictures? any comment on the mushrooms?
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19452437 - 01/21/14 11:42 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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they look like they're trying to kill themselves to get out of that bag. Cut some slits on each side and give it some misting. Then go make yourself a SGFC.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19456238 - 01/22/14 05:24 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
so far I want to thank you for your help. I started to get the stuff for a SGFC. So I think my next try will be less like a total noob try like this time.
Now, I got some mushrooms out of the box. The veil opened. Are those any good? I would dry them now. Anything I should be aware of now? What about the short ones? Are they any good. I thought they would not grow any better the longer I would wait.
THANKS again for your help!
Edited by rofllol (01/22/14 05:52 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19456321 - 01/22/14 06:47 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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yes all good!
u will be in no time. i actually like them when they are really small (like the smaller ones in ur pic). i have picked them that small before from a dying bulk attempt (humidity way too low, whole bucket dried out during fruiting) and found they were uber potent. was not an isolate, so no conclusive evidence, but after many a time, picking small fruits (not even close to veil tearing small, like 3.5-4") and eating them/friends eating them, i honestly think they r more potent.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: blindingleaf]
#19456339 - 01/22/14 06:52 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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thank you for your reply!!!
what about the blueish spots on the smaller ones?
can u eat the whole mushroom or should I leave out the lower parts?
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19456360 - 01/22/14 06:58 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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eat whole thing! after its cracker dry, just rub off the verm/substrate stuff on bottom with ur hands. if its cracker dry, it will easily rub off with just ur fingers. even if it doesn't completely come off no worries, i have eaten plenty of verm, coir, peat, etc, with no problem. if u eat a bunch of coir and then fresh mushroom, u can make a monotub out of ur stomach lining. I'm working on a tek for it now
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19456500 - 01/22/14 08:09 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
rofllol said: I started to get the stuff for a SGFC. So I think my next try will be less like a total noob try like this time.
Try this:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613
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a-ok to eat. the blue is just bruising which is a trait of these kind of mushrooms
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19456691 - 01/22/14 09:30 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks guys! I will upload pics of dried mushrooms and once i tried them u will get a little report!
THANKS AGAIN!
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19461308 - 01/23/14 07:58 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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What do you think?
 Those are 8 grams.
they are dried and should be ready to eat - right? First time I would start with around 1.5-2 grams
Edited by rofllol (01/23/14 08:00 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19461491 - 01/23/14 08:49 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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those still look a bit wet, thy should just about break and crumble if you bend them.
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ok, ill dry them more!
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19461585 - 01/23/14 09:16 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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at least 12-16 hours with a 160F dehydrator or way longer with any other method
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19463114 - 01/23/14 03:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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if u have already taken shrooms before and just wanna do an experiment, weigh those 5-6 little ones, and then separately weigh those 2 big ones, compare the weights and separate them. see if u think the smaller ones are more potent (even if they weigh less) than the big ones. if u only aiming for a 2g trip, that would b an interesting way to get 2 trip twice and see the difference.
another experiment: eat them all and compare that to being sober
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: blindingleaf]
#19463139 - 01/23/14 03:24 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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hey guys - after drying them rock hard (the little ones) I put them in a zip bag and in the fridge. today I checked them and they areent as dry as they were before...what should I do? still good? dry again?
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: rofllol]
#19466046 - 01/24/14 03:51 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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dry again, moisture in the miidle made it's way out
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: cronicr]
#19466282 - 01/24/14 06:39 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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The outer part of the shrooms dry quicker. Sometimes the inside is still a bit wet even if they feel cracker dry.
They are probably still good though.
Let them dry a bit more and they'll be ok.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: cli_hlt]
#19466320 - 01/24/14 06:52 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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this may sounds weird/dumb but i always have noticed after getting mine cracker dry (I'm talking thru and thru) if i put them in fridge in a bag (not a glass jar) they seem more pliable than before. i have since kept them in room temp (which here is 65-70 in winter) in sealed glass jars. i don't like the idea of baggies plus storage in fridge. dunno what it is (never tried glass jars in fridge tho). i'd even say baggie in room temp (like closet) is better than baggie in fridge, but thats me. i could be totally wrong here.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: blindingleaf]
#19466376 - 01/24/14 07:13 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
blindingleaf said: this may sounds weird/dumb but i always have noticed after getting mine cracker dry (I'm talking thru and thru) if i put them in fridge in a bag (not a glass jar) they seem more pliable than before. i have since kept them in room temp (which here is 65-70 in winter) in sealed glass jars. i don't like the idea of baggies plus storage in fridge. dunno what it is (never tried glass jars in fridge tho). i'd even say baggie in room temp (like closet) is better than baggie in fridge, but thats me. i could be totally wrong here.
Mushrooms, like desiccant, absorb water from the air. They will turn pliable if exposed to humidity, thats why its important to store mushrooms with desiccant.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: gman7104]
#19466621 - 01/24/14 09:01 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've stored my shrooms for months in glass jars with no desiccant. Desiccant is good if you're leaving them in plastic bags for a long time. If you fill up a glass jar with a good lid the small ammount of moisture in the jar is really irrelevant. I grind my shrooms into dust and put them in gel caps they're still dry months later. It takes more than 12 hours in a food dehydrator that goes to 160F to get them cracker dry even though after like 6-8 hours they will feel rock hard, Split one in half to check.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19466722 - 01/24/14 09:34 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Potency is also genetic so while smaller fruits may tend to he more potent, genetics will still play a role, especially if the reason for the smaller fruit size is due to poor conditions. I am assuming OP is growing ms so there are a lot of variables in play.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19466928 - 01/24/14 10:30 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I've stored my shrooms for months in glass jars with no desiccant. Desiccant is good if you're leaving them in plastic bags for a long time. If you fill up a glass jar with a good lid the small ammount of moisture in the jar is really irrelevant. I grind my shrooms into dust and put them in gel caps they're still dry months later. It takes more than 12 hours in a food dehydrator that goes to 160F to get them cracker dry even though after like 6-8 hours they will feel rock hard, Split one in half to check.
The shrooms being in gel caps kept them completely dry. Im not saying that storing them without desiccant will leave you will flexible shrooms in 6 months but we know potency loss from mushrooms is from water, even a minimal amount. And since mushrooms absorb water like desiccant, there is no doubt that storing with desiccant is the only way short of storing in a vacuum to keep 100% potency.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: gman7104]
#19466936 - 01/24/14 10:34 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I make them into caps after the storage. They're whole shrooms in storage. Potency loss is from oxidation not water.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19466964 - 01/24/14 10:43 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I make them into caps after the storage. They're whole shrooms in storage. Potency loss is from oxidation not water.
] The potency loss is not necessarily a direct chemical reaction. When mushrooms are wet, they begin to rot, Even if they are moist. Once they begin to rot, the psilocybin begins to oxidize. Ive seen it firsthand.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: gman7104]
#19466986 - 01/24/14 10:49 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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who would eat rotting shrooms anyway, you have a big problem if you're having rotting shrooms occur.
Do like everyone here does that grows a lot of shrooms. Put them in glass jars after drying them in a dehydrator til they're cracker dry through and through. Or put them in ziplock freezer bags for a few months. Or put them in ziplocks with desiccant for really long term storage.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: bodhisatta]
#19467014 - 01/24/14 10:58 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: who would eat rotting shrooms anyway, you have a big problem if you're having rotting shrooms occur.
Do like everyone here does that grows a lot of shrooms. Put them in glass jars after drying them in a dehydrator til they're cracker dry through and through. Or put them in ziplock freezer bags for a few months. Or put them in ziplocks with desiccant for really long term storage.
My friend stored a quarter of dried shrooms and after 4 months they were slightly moist and tasted bad, like rot. Potency was significantly less. They were not stored properly, but regardless the point is storing with desiccant guarantees potency retention.
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Re: Psilocybe Cubensis B+ Help [Re: gman7104]
#19480367 - 01/27/14 08:16 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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little report:
took around 2.5-3 grams
ended up staring at my picasso pictures at the wall danving and moving. they were moving and somehow new drawn. color pulsating. new colors and lines were drawing itself at the blank walls. clouds from a different picture moving out of the pic into the room. quite nice i would say
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