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    #19451877 - 01/21/14 08:38 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: cloning [Re: jbakers12]
    #19451892 - 01/21/14 08:43 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

It should be fine. I would clone from new mushrooms as pins or just past the pin stage. As the mushroom grows up it's starting to go into shutdown mode. The mycelium has more vigor when it's trying to make a big fruit than when it's already become one.

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Re: cloning [Re: jbakers12]
    #19451903 - 01/21/14 08:47 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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If I clone one of the last fruits to grow from a casing




You don't grow from a casing, you grow from your substrate which may have a casing layer.

Also, it's fine. But like bodhisatta said, cloning from pins is typically better.

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Re: cloning [Re: slh980]
    #19451923 - 01/21/14 08:56 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

this has me thinking, because i've seen a number of folks talk of cloning a grocery store mushroom, would it be typical or better or whatever to clone a portabello, for instance, grow it out to fruit and print, then work toward isolates from those spores?  i guess the answer is yes, that's better, but how's anyone else feel?


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Re: cloning [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #19451934 - 01/21/14 09:00 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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If I clone one of the last fruits to grow from a casing, would that be a bad idea as far as it's fruiting potential in future projects? Though it was a late comer, it is one of the largest of the entire yield of that casing.




If it is a fruit that came after the first flush, don't bother. Clone young, healthy clusters from the first flush for best results.

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this has me thinking, because i've seen a number of folks talk of cloning a grocery store mushroom, would it be typical or better or whatever to clone a portabello, for instance, grow it out to fruit and print, then work toward isolates from those spores?  i guess the answer is yes, that's better, but how's anyone else feel?




Clone a young bella :wink:

Grocery store clones are usually great fruiters.


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Re: cloning [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19452418 - 01/21/14 11:39 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: cloning [Re: jbakers12]
    #19452433 - 01/21/14 11:41 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

take a spore print :shrug:

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    #19452478 - 01/21/14 11:49 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: cloning [Re: jbakers12]
    #19452486 - 01/21/14 11:51 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

spore print is way easier IMO.

You cant throw a pin into grain jars you're asking for contamination. Put it on agar where the mycelium can bury the contamination and then you'll want to take a transfer. put the transfer on a new dish let it grow out and use that on the grain.

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    #19452622 - 01/21/14 12:20 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: cloning [Re: jbakers12]
    #19452631 - 01/21/14 12:22 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Clones usually do well for perpetuating traits. It's just a little bit harder and more careful sterile work to do that then it is to take a print.

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Re: cloning [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19452710 - 01/21/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I have cloned 2nd flush fruits.  They have proven on a few occasions to be very slow colonizers....consistant in weights and measures, but slow and slow are 2 adjectives I would use to describe it.  Everyone said "don't waste your time"....and though I cannot say it was a total waste of time, it certainly did waste time....It took almost 21 days to fully colonize a substrate that a "normal" spawn would have done in half the time.  I cloned it because it was a huge fruit and they certainly retained the traits of the "parent" fruit, but again I assume the SLOW was based on the age.

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    #19454928 - 01/21/14 09:09 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: cloning [Re: jbakers12]
    #19460691 - 01/23/14 01:30 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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So it sounds like isolating a single whatchamacallit by growning spores out on agar a handfull of times would be better than cloning a pin; given both would be taken from last flush. Is that correct?




Not usually, at least in practice. When you clone a pin, you know that it is a fruiting strain/composite. A lot of strains isolated with no testing turn out to be pretty bad/mediocre fruiters.

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Then the next first flush pin/spores be used for slants and such. Good idea?




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    #19480272 - 01/27/14 07:19 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: cloning [Re: jbakers12]
    #19480325 - 01/27/14 07:52 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Took a spore print. Hopefully this strain variety will live on from there.
Thanks yall



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