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    #19448156 - 01/20/14 03:04 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19448205 - 01/20/14 03:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I also had some questions about how to "dunk" with rye seed and flushing. What is the best way to dunk a rye seed substrate and when I harvest my first batch of Mushies do I just let the mycelium regrow and it will fruit again or do I need another incubation period to let the mycelium regrow where I have already plucked the mushies?

I would attach Images but I am not really sure how.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19448243 - 01/20/14 03:31 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

What your referring to is a g2g transfer but I wouldn't risk trying it on those two jars. Make fresh jars and re prep grains if you want to do a g2g.  As far as the dunking what are you planning to do with the rye? Spawn it to what and what kind of fc are you planning to use ?

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: gmc52789]
    #19448260 - 01/20/14 03:36 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I would like to have them fruit more than once but I am not sure that it is possible. I have tried to do my research on it but there doesn't seem to be that much info on it. I have small containers inside of a bigger tub that I will be using so that I can use perlite on the bottom for the humidity. I will also be using vermiculite as my casing for my rye grain.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19448295 - 01/20/14 03:45 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Type all those terms (ones you plan on using) into the search bar and you should find quite a bit of info on here.  fruiting more than once would be second and third flushes.  FC's with perlite are "usually" SGFC.  I don't think verm by itself would work well as a casing, but you should look that up too :grin:


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: 1down5up]
    #19448315 - 01/20/14 03:49 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Type all those terms (ones you plan on using) into the search bar and you should find quite a bit of info on here.  fruiting more than once would be second and third flushes.  FC's with perlite are "usually" SGFC.  I don't think verm by itself would work well as a casing, but you should look that up too :grin:



Thank you sir. I will look these up. Is there any suggestion that you have as far as the casing is concerned? I have looked up dunking for rye grain but had little luck finding anything on it.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19448350 - 01/20/14 03:55 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Is there any reasons that you guys can think of that my others did not germinate? I am guessing that the substrate was packed to tightly because I (really don't remember) don't think that I shook the jars once I took the out of the pc or when I inoculated them.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19448385 - 01/20/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

maybe ya didn't shake the syringe before each hole.  I had some do the same man.  Next thing ya know, 3 weeks later, they started.

I've never cased anything before, but with cubes, i heard you don't HAVE to, but if you do you'll keep more moisture, and increase your chances of better flushes....but that's what i've read on here, and that doesn't mean that it's the rules.  You'll find you have to read about the same topic 4 or 5 times over before the real deal starts to show through, unless you get answers from a TC or someone else you find knowledgeable.  There are many on here.  Keep reading bro.:thumbup:


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: 1down5up]
    #19448409 - 01/20/14 04:11 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks man. Yea I am reading some right now about flushing and seeing how people are doing it. I don't believe I shook it in between holes but I will make a note of that next time I use one. I believe I will just do a g2g for my next try at growing because i have live culture going. Thanks again for all the information

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. *DELETED* [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19448426 - 01/20/14 04:16 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19449330 - 01/20/14 07:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

So does everything look good in these jars? Will post more in a couple of days.

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    #19488145 - 01/28/14 07:31 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488174 - 01/28/14 07:35 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Just want to make sure they they are Healthy honestly.

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    #19488207 - 01/28/14 07:42 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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    #19488571 - 01/28/14 08:49 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488589 - 01/28/14 08:53 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

relax man, read the rules there's no bumping threads hourly, and those look like there contaminated with bacteria but i could be wrong, give them a sniff and y is there foil on there?


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488637 - 01/28/14 09:01 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

The tin foil is used to cover the holes that I used for inoculation. What kind of contamination do you think it is?

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488642 - 01/28/14 09:03 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

so you didn't use a filter?


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488651 - 01/28/14 09:05 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

No i didnt use a filter. I just did the two holes before I pressure cooked them and wrapped them in foil. Also some of these jars have been shaken a little rough in order to try to break some of the clumps down.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488681 - 01/28/14 09:12 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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No i didnt use a filter. I just did the two holes before I pressure cooked them and wrapped them in foil. Also some of these jars have been shaken a little rough in order to try to break some of the clumps down.


:facepalm: Really? And you don't know where the bacteria contaminant could have came from..


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: mycopanda]
    #19488689 - 01/28/14 09:13 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

:homerdoh3:
try again and do it right this time, poly is like 2 bux for a bag that will do 100 jars


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488698 - 01/28/14 09:16 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not saying that there isn't a contamination. That is why I am asking questions and looking for help. Again I have looked at contamination and done research on what I could find. And some of these jars I shook really really hard.
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try again and do it right this time, poly is like 2 bux for a bag that will do 100 jars




Poly? Also I took every precaution that I could to try and be as sterile as possible. This is my first time trying to grow mushrooms.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488704 - 01/28/14 09:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

it's the stuff they stuff pillows with


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488718 - 01/28/14 09:20 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

What kind of Contam do you think this is? Specifically so that I can do research on how to prevent it for next time. There is no smell coming from my Tub that I have the jars in and I will be sure to smell them and make sure I smell no odor before I try and fruit them.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488765 - 01/28/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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What kind of Contam do you think this is? Specifically so that I can do research on how to prevent it for next time.



to prevent it's simple, use a filter material, far too many contams out there to tell you for sure:shrug:


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488779 - 01/28/14 09:31 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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What kind of Contam do you think this is? Specifically so that I can do research on how to prevent it for next time.



to prevent it's simple, use a filter material, far too many contams out there to tell you for sure:shrug:


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I find myself doing this a lot for your posts cronicr... you ever not be so damn rite In your life? Lol


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488784 - 01/28/14 09:33 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

If there is a contam I will smell it when I open my jars though right? Is there any particular odor that I am looking for?

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488792 - 01/28/14 09:35 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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If there is a contam I will smell it when I open my jars though right? Is there any particular odor that I am looking for?



Sweet or sour.. anything but fresh mushroom smell...  sometimes a sour apple smell..


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: mycopanda]
    #19488805 - 01/28/14 09:37 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

So something other than freshness. Gotcha. I always figured like a rotten or moldy smell.

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    #19488806 - 01/28/14 09:37 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488827 - 01/28/14 09:41 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I am thankful for all the help guys. Mainly because no one else has really bothered to try and help. Again I will make sure to smell them and make sure. I am hoping that it was just me shaking them really hard but knowing my luck I dout that to be the case :frown:

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488854 - 01/28/14 09:46 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

just follow a proven tek, check franks shit out and go from there, maybe post a log so we can keep u in a strait line:wink:


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488867 - 01/28/14 09:49 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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just follow a proven tek, check franks shit out and go from there, maybe post a log so we can keep u in a strait line;)



I would love to because I want to get this right. If you have the time I would love to go through my procedure with you in what I did and see where we can go from there

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19488872 - 01/28/14 09:50 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

anytime, thats y were here:thumbup:


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: mycopanda]
    #19488930 - 01/28/14 10:02 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

So does anyone want to hear my procedure and give me some pointers?

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    #19488947 - 01/28/14 10:07 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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So does anyone want to hear my procedure and give me some pointers?



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anytime, thats y were here:thumbup:



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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19488989 - 01/28/14 10:20 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

So to begin with I prepared my jars with rye and water with the foil on top. Pressure cooked the jars for 1hr at 15psi. Had to do this a few times because cooker only fit 5 jars. When they were done I took them into a bathroom that I sprayed with bleach, everywhere and cleaned everything too. I took the jars out of the pressure cooker and left them in the bathroom why I did the other jars. After they cooled, I sprayed the air again and counter with bleach as well as the inside of the tub I am using and the box that I used to hold my jars. I turned off the air before this, I then took the foil off the tops of the jars, flamed the tip of the needle that I was using and proceeded to inoculate the jars. I had to move them from one location to other location after the whole procedure. Out into the cold and to another place. Living situation was shitty. Never taking them out of the tub or box and never removing the foil. Again other than being forced to move them from location to location. Tried to be as sterile as possible.
Also I know that moving them was not the best idea but I had no other choice.

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    #19489014 - 01/28/14 10:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

look up a soak and simmer tek for your grains, much better results with a 24 hour soak and a simmer, also look into building a still air box for best results and always use a filter material like pollyfill or tyvek or synthetic filter discs


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19489031 - 01/28/14 10:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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So to begin with I prepared my jars with rye and water with the foil on top. Pressure cooked the jars for 1hr at 15psi. Had to do this a few times because cooker only fit 5 jars. When they were done I took them into a bathroom that I sprayed with bleach, everywhere and cleaned everything too. I took the jars out of the pressure cooker and left them in the bathroom why I did the other jars. After they cooled, I sprayed the air again and counter with bleach as well as the inside of the tub I am using and the box that I used to hold my jars. I turned off the air before this, I then took the foil off the tops of the jars, flamed the tip of the needle that I was using and proceeded to inoculate the jars. I had to move them from one location to other location after the whole procedure. Out into the cold and to another place. Living situation was shitty. Never taking them out of the tub or box and never removing the foil. Again other than being forced to move them from location to location. Tried to be as sterile as possible.
Also I know that moving them was not the best idea but I had no other choice.



Try making a sab. (still air box)
It will help you reduce contaminants and you wont have to do it in a unsterile bathtub. (no matter how many times you spray it) And does it have a filter on it?


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
    #19489040 - 01/28/14 10:31 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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look up a soak and simmer tek for your grains, much better results with a 24 hour soak and a simmer, also look into building a still air box for best results and always use a filter material like pollyfill or tyvek or synthetic filter discs




Awesome. I will look into these. I might have to get another syringe because if my batch in contaminated I don't want to use them, but i also don't have the money for another syringe at the moment. :/ But I will try to be more sterile in my next batch that I do.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: cronicr]
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look up a soak and simmer tek for your grains, much better results with a 24 hour soak and a simmer, also look into building a still air box for best results and always use a filter material like pollyfill or tyvek or synthetic filter discs



I use gauze pads and cut them up in four. (they unfold) Then I put them on the disc with the holes and screw my lid over top it all... Works awesome.. I have issues with tape and polyfill... I don't know why it works fine I just have issues with any kind of sticky shit and sticking it honestly! lol


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: mycopanda]
    #19489045 - 01/28/14 10:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Try making a sab. (still air box)
It will help you reduce contaminants and you wont have to do it in a unsterile bathtub. (no matter how many times you spray it) And does it have a filter on it?




No I didn't know that I was suppose to use a filter. I didn't find this sites material until after I started my project.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19489047 - 01/28/14 10:33 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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look up a soak and simmer tek for your grains, much better results with a 24 hour soak and a simmer, also look into building a still air box for best results and always use a filter material like pollyfill or tyvek or synthetic filter discs




Awesome. I will look into these. I might have to get another syringe because if my batch in contaminated I don't want to use them, but i also don't have the money for another syringe at the moment. :/ But I will try to be more sterile in my next batch that I do.



Pc you syringe! it will be fine. Assuming it doesn't have non autoclavable plastic on it


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19489050 - 01/28/14 10:35 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Try making a sab. (still air box)
It will help you reduce contaminants and you wont have to do it in a unsterile bathtub. (no matter how many times you spray it) And does it have a filter on it?




No I didn't know that I was suppose to use a filter. I didn't find this sites material until after I started my project.



Yes you need a filter.. Now you know. Don't fret on your last project it was a honest noob mistake.. Just do it again and stick to a tek.. Also do it rite with a filter.. you keep posting updates and we will keep you on the right line.


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: mycopanda]
    #19489051 - 01/28/14 10:35 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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cronicr said:
look up a soak and simmer tek for your grains, much better results with a 24 hour soak and a simmer, also look into building a still air box for best results and always use a filter material like pollyfill or tyvek or synthetic filter discs




Awesome. I will look into these. I might have to get another syringe because if my batch in contaminated I don't want to use them, but i also don't have the money for another syringe at the moment. :/ But I will try to be more sterile in my next batch that I do.



Pc you syringe! it will be fine. Assuming it doesn't have non autoclavable plastic on it




Sorry I ment use my grains that I have now. I have a syringe that I got in December but won't be able to do another batch for another 2 weeks and don't know if the spores will still be good. They have been stored in a room that doesn't get very warm. So I figured that they wouldn't be any good by now.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19489134 - 01/28/14 10:55 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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cronicr said:
look up a soak and simmer tek for your grains, much better results with a 24 hour soak and a simmer, also look into building a still air box for best results and always use a filter material like pollyfill or tyvek or synthetic filter discs




Awesome. I will look into these. I might have to get another syringe because if my batch in contaminated I don't want to use them, but i also don't have the money for another syringe at the moment. :/ But I will try to be more sterile in my next batch that I do.



Pc you syringe! it will be fine. Assuming it doesn't have non autoclavable plastic on it




Sorry I ment use my grains that I have now. I have a syringe that I got in December but won't be able to do another batch for another 2 weeks and don't know if the spores will still be good. They have been stored in a room that doesn't get very warm. So I figured that they wouldn't be any good by now.



Can't hurt to try!


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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: mycopanda]
    #19489154 - 01/28/14 11:01 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

True, but i don't really have the money to waste at the moment. so I might have to postpone my projects till a later time.

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Re: First Time Grow with Questions. [Re: chopped_ya]
    #19489159 - 01/28/14 11:03 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Now say that I go to fruit them. I don't smell any really sweet or bad smells and I fruit some. Is there anything that I should look for in my fruits before I try them out to make sure that I am not going to hurt myself? I know that some will have black spots on the tops right? but aborts will also have a black line from the base to the tip correct?

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