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Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency
#19443092 - 01/19/14 03:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looking for some ballpark figures on misting and fanning. Cant find any real solid details on the subject usually just mist first and fan afterwards...
For a mono with a dry surface..
Mist something like ____ sprays.
AND followed by..
Fan something like ____ seconds.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: CarlWonderful]
#19443101 - 01/19/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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mist until the surface of your substrate glistens and fan long enough to get all the humid air out of your FC.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: CarlWonderful]
#19443107 - 01/19/14 03:13 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is it a monotub? If so you do t need to do anything but wait till you see a pin then fruit. Easypeasy
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443133 - 01/19/14 03:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Monos still get dry. After fruitin I mist mine when the surface dries up.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19443195 - 01/19/14 03:26 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Isn't evaporation what induces pinning? Soak the whole thing under water for 24hrs AFTER your first flush to rehydrate. Don't make it to complicated.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443204 - 01/19/14 03:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Different people have different ways but in no way is it necessary if you have a mono
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443216 - 01/19/14 03:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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the RH in my house is around 20% so for me its quite necessary.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19443261 - 01/19/14 03:37 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are you growing in open air? Your mono has a microclimate.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19443273 - 01/19/14 03:38 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sometimes things get dry... It happens..
So any actual amount or numbers, frequency?... just curious for some details.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443281 - 01/19/14 03:40 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ayahuascasoul said: Are you growing in open air? Your mono has a microclimate.
it still gets fresh air exchange.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19443292 - 01/19/14 03:41 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: mist until the surface of your substrate glistens and fan long enough to get all the humid air out of your FC.
Do that if you have to but it's not necessary. It will get dry, it will shrink 1-2" away from the wall of your tub.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443309 - 01/19/14 03:44 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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it doesn't shrink from being dry it shrinks because the mycelium is consuming the sub.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19443316 - 01/19/14 03:45 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443317 - 01/19/14 03:45 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fresh air exchange is needed for co2 in you tub. You don't need to mist, fan, micromanage your tub and you will see 9oz with two flushes
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443327 - 01/19/14 03:47 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm just saying you don't need to make it too complicated.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443379 - 01/19/14 04:00 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: PussyFart]
#19443459 - 01/19/14 04:16 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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Ayahuascasoul said: Fresh air exchange is needed for co2 in you tub.

FAE is needed due to co2 buildup? If I'm wrong and you do need to mist and fan a mono please let me know?
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443464 - 01/19/14 04:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just the way you worded it threw me off.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: CarlWonderful]
#19443481 - 01/19/14 04:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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CarlWonderful said: Looking for some ballpark figures on misting and fanning. Cant find any real solid details on the subject usually just mist first and fan afterwards...
For a mono with a dry surface..
Mist something like ____ sprays.
AND followed by..
Fan something like ____ seconds.
I'm just saying its not that technical and not necessary for a correctly done mono.....
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: PussyFart]
#19443496 - 01/19/14 04:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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PussyFart said: Just the way you worded it threw me off.
Yeah I'm fkd up and I feel crazy with all this misting and fanning a mono talk. Isn't the whole point of a mono to not have to mist and fan? I'm just trying to help this guy who's making this way to complicated...
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19443513 - 01/19/14 04:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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RH of your house affecting a mono grow? If you have proper sub, spawn and a mono it's that easy.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19444586 - 01/19/14 09:01 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Am I the only retard here whose misted a mono. I'm fanatical about FAE so I leave my polly pretty loose. Personally Id rather have a ton of fresh air and have to mist once in a while.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19444600 - 01/19/14 09:04 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Am I the only retard here whose misted a mono. I'm fanatical about FAE so I leave my polly pretty loose. Personally Id rather have a ton of fresh air and have to mist once in a while.
i believe it was rr who had said he hates the thought of set n forget or even stuffing holes at all
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: cronicr]
#19444898 - 01/19/14 10:02 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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its good to know my methods aren't completely fucked.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19445255 - 01/19/14 11:07 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm fanatical about FAE so I leave my polly pretty loose. Personally Id rather have a ton of fresh air and have to mist once in a while.
The only place for my tubs is a walk in closet, so they get alot of fan work and dry out kinda quick. Gotta bumb up that FAE to compensate, but sometimes my top sub/casing gets dry so I usually have to mist after first flush.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: CMOS]
#19445420 - 01/19/14 11:45 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would personally mist after the first flush anyway to replace moisture that was used during the first flush.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: mushmagic]
#19446519 - 01/20/14 08:10 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: its good to know my methods aren't completely fucked.
It's not but this op was making it too technical and I don't think it's necessary....
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mushmagic said: I would personally mist after the first flush anyway to replace moisture that was used during the first flush.
I don't mist after the first flush I submerge the whole sub for 24hrs like a cake then drain to replace moisture and get 112g cracker dry...
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19446602 - 01/20/14 08:31 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Am I the only retard here whose misted a mono. I'm fanatical about FAE so I leave my polly pretty loose. Personally Id rather have a ton of fresh air and have to mist once in a while.
I'm on my first tub. I can't really ignore nature's way. During the night, plants release moisture and co2. Cooler temps cause the moisture to condensate and build up on surfaces. When the sun comes around plants start photosynthesis(releases o2 and use co2) and the sun/warmer temps evaporate the condensation left from the night.
So, just before bed, I give a light misting, no fan. In the morning I give a lighter mist followed by fan. Through out the day I pull the lid off a few times to allow for a good exchange. Maybe more work than needed.... but hell, it is my first attempt at a tub, so the fact that it isn't a failure is good enough for me.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MarcusFreeman]
#19446664 - 01/20/14 08:49 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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MarcusFreeman said:
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MudaFuka said: Am I the only retard here whose misted a mono. I'm fanatical about FAE so I leave my polly pretty loose. Personally Id rather have a ton of fresh air and have to mist once in a while.
I'm on my first tub. I can't really ignore nature's way. During the night, plants release moisture and co2. Cooler temps cause the moisture to condensate and build up on surfaces. When the sun comes around plants start photosynthesis(releases o2 and use co2) and the sun/warmer temps evaporate the condensation left from the night.
So, just before bed, I give a light misting, no fan. In the morning I give a lighter mist followed by fan. Through out the day I pull the lid off a few times to allow for a good exchange. Maybe more work than needed.... but hell, it is my first attempt at a tub, so the fact that it isn't a failure is good enough for me. 
If you have everything right before putting it in your tub everything will be fine unless you pour a gallon of bleach on it. Monos are that easy...
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
#19446716 - 01/20/14 09:07 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ayahuascasoul said:
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MudaFuka said: its good to know my methods aren't completely fucked.
It's not but this op was making it too technical and I don't think it's necessary....
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mushmagic said: I would personally mist after the first flush anyway to replace moisture that was used during the first flush.
I don't mist after the first flush I submerge the whole sub for 24hrs like a cake then drain to replace moisture and get 112g cracker dry...
I agree that the OP was making things to technical. firs time growers generally tend to over think things. Yes Monos are fairly set and forget but depending on the individual situation they can require some additional attention. If the complete set and forget method works for you that's cool. I just like to do a bit more work. That's partly why I don't use monos any more. Difrent strokes for difrent folks.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MarcusFreeman]
#19446744 - 01/20/14 09:15 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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MarcusFreeman said: When the sun comes around plants start photosynthesis(releases o2 and use co2)
Photosynthesis has nothing to do with the releasing gasses.....it has everything to do with converting light into energy tho......
Just clarifying........
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: PussyFart]
#19446768 - 01/20/14 09:22 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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The release of gas may not be relevant to us, but it does happen. It's a bi product. In some micro climates, cellular respiration and photosynthesis probably have tremendous influence.
In our application, none, I guess.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: PussyFart]
#19446774 - 01/20/14 09:24 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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also mushrooms are not plants they are fungi. They do not get there food energy from the sun threw photosynthesis. They excrete enzymes that digest there food externally. The digested nutrients are the absorbed by the mycelium. The are really nothing like plants.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19446949 - 01/20/14 10:21 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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MudaFuka said: also mushrooms are not plants they are fungi. They do not get there food energy from the sun threw photosynthesis.
But they do derive energy from light...just to be clear.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: PussyFart]
#19446977 - 01/20/14 10:32 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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sorry OP this thread has gotten a bit off topic. To answer your question, there is no specific number of mists required. when its dry just mist until its not dry anymore. The number of sprays will vary depending on circumstances. Just be carful not to over saturate your sub.
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: MudaFuka]
#19466196 - 01/24/14 06:01 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you... How would you describe oversaturation?
I keep hearing this and that is over complicating, but without some solid numbers or pictures or something concrete how can you know you have oversaturated or fanned to long or anything really without second guessing yourself.
Thanks for trying to answer I know its a simple process and it really should not be so hard... but I mean, to understand something you have to have details and real info beyond a few descriptive words, it can be hard to gauge.. is it just me.. maybe im a freak
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Re: Misting and Fanning.. Amount & Frequency [Re: CarlWonderful]
#19466458 - 01/24/14 07:55 AM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nope its just you. You're a freak. Lol jk
As for the misting and fanning. When I put it into fruiting I just give like 2 or 3 mists above the sub, not at it. Let it mist on it. Then I fan till my arm is tired, a minute or two.
After that I check on it once every like 3 hrs. If water is pooled I dab at it and re-cover my tub for another hr. I use my light and look for the water reflecting the light it gives the surface a glint. When that glint is gone I mist again till the surface shines. Fan till my arm is tired and repeat.
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