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SynKyd
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OK so I tried this, best spawn to flush rate so far for me. This was 5 BRF jars (GT-MS) for 435g first flush, will update with dry weight when I have it. Sub was looking dry once the pins showed so I started misting 3x daily from the top holes, and pumping FAE whenever I could (at least 3x a day). If you are a noob and have BRF jars incubating, this is a pretty easy way to get much more yield from them without a PC or very much effort (much less that SGFC as far as misting and fanning time goes..........might use a little more water in the sub prep though)


    
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retaardvark
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Re: Bucketing with Blake [Re: SynKyd]
#19109705 - 11/09/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I never got my bucket dialed in right, and my sheeting was opaque so the light was inadequate. For this reason, my first flush was very poor. Popped the cake into my SGFC and it fruited like a boss.
Just trying to help others looking through the thread with poor fruiting experience.
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Captainpaps
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yo blake blinding leaf linked me up with this tek so im giving it a try i just mixed my 1 qt of spawn with 4 qts of coir in the bucket, i'm looking forward to seeing these results 
if i'm not mistaken you were saying this way gives you better flushes than using monotubs?
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Re: Bucketing with Blake [Re: SynKyd]
#19216916 - 12/02/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So how long do these usually take to fully colonize? I made one about 15 days ago and it's still not fully colonized.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Bucketing with Blake [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#19216924 - 12/02/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I approve of this.
I have some trash-can mini-monos sitting in a closet somewhere. Maybe I'll get them out again, just for kicks.
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monoculture
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This was 5 BRF jars (GT-MS) for 435g first flush, will update with dry weight when I have it.
Should be close to 35g dry
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Blake_Shroom
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Re: Bucketing with Blake [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#19217249 - 12/02/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Captainpaps said: yo blake blinding leaf linked me up with this tek so im giving it a try i just mixed my 1 qt of spawn with 4 qts of coir in the bucket, i'm looking forward to seeing these results 
if i'm not mistaken you were saying this way gives you better flushes than using monotubs?
In terms of efficiency, for me, yes. 1 qrt of spawn produced ~2 oz dried. For my mono's, 5-6qrts produced roughly 10 oz dried. Not much more efficient, but ever little bit counts. It certainly was not so much more efficient that I use buckets over tubs. Tubs are way more convenient for large scale grows, these are great for smaller scale.
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Cpt.Crunch said: So how long do these usually take to fully colonize? I made one about 15 days ago and it's still not fully colonized.
A week or 2. I would assume that you might have bacteria or something if its taking longer.
Once you spawn, the spawn sub ratio isnt that significant. Myc will tear through properly pasteurized substrate. Once it gets going, it GOES.
Best of luck to everyone. I'll have some more contributions to the forum shortly, Life is keeping me pretty busy at the moment
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SynKyd
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Re: Bucketing with Blake [Re: SynKyd]
#19220714 - 12/03/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SinysterKyd said: OK so I tried this, best spawn to flush rate so far for me. This was 5 BRF jars (GT-MS) for 435g first flush, will update with dry weight when I have it. Sub was looking dry once the pins showed so I started misting 3x daily from the top holes, and pumping FAE whenever I could (at least 3x a day). If you are a noob and have BRF jars incubating, this is a pretty easy way to get much more yield from them without a PC or very much effort (much less that SGFC as far as misting and fanning time goes..........might use a little more water in the sub prep though)


    
Blake, 5 stars!
My three-flush total was 625g, dried to just over 1.5oz for this bucket of GT.
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monoculture
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Re: Bucketing with Blake [Re: SynKyd]
#19222373 - 12/03/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Makes sense, I found out dividing wet shrooms by 13 gives a good indication about what weight to expect dry.
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FrankHorrigan
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Dividing by 13? 
Mushrooms are 90-92% water.
So you can expect about an 8-10% return on your wet weight.
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monoculture
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Divided by 13 gives 92.3%, so that's about right. I did weigh multiple flushes now before and after drying, and found out dividing by 10 would give me disappointments when I weigh them when dried. Most of the time they are a bit more than 92% water, so better to make a dry weight estimate that is more realistic.
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If I have 500g of wet mushrooms, usually that comes to be about 50g dried....sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less...but usually right around 50g...
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FrankHorrigan
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monoculture said: Most of the time they are a bit more than 92% water, so better to make a dry weight estimate that is more realistic.
Out of the many, many dry pounds I've grown, most of them are around 90-92% water weight
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Re: Bucketing with Blake [Re: SynKyd]
#19222967 - 12/03/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SinysterKyd said: OK so I tried this, best spawn to flush rate so far for me. This was 5 BRF jars (GT-MS) for 435g first flush, will update with dry weight when I have it. Sub was looking dry once the pins showed so I started misting 3x daily from the top holes, and pumping FAE whenever I could (at least 3x a day). If you are a noob and have BRF jars incubating, this is a pretty easy way to get much more yield from them without a PC or very much effort (much less that SGFC as far as misting and fanning time goes..........might use a little more water in the sub prep though)


    
Blake, 5 stars!
Glad this worked good for you! This tek/FC is mainly aimed at people doing the PF tek or people just starting with grain, as you can make a few of these for really cheap, and if some contam, its better than a whole mono contaming IMO.
I have a few going now. Just started pinning. From a clone I labled Gigantor. I cloned a fruit that was 60g wet from a first flush, and in a decent cluster. Lets see how it goes
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monoculture
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Hm, strange, maybe my mushrooms are more hydrated. Could this be related to my area? Like sea level and humidity outside the FC? At a friend's grow, they will lose the same % in weight as the divided by 13 thing works for him too.
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Cpt.Crunch
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Would anyone advise poking holes into the plastic covering the top of the bucket once I put it into fruiting to give it more FAE?
Or would stuffing the holes with polyfil be enough?
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Re: Bucketing with Blake [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#19226419 - 12/04/13 12:24 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I honestly dont even use my "lung" for FAE like i describe in the thread. I just put that there because if you are having FAE troubles, then the "lung" works great for air exchange.
My buckets are like my mono, set and forget. I never have FAE troubles and never need to use the "lung".
Make sure you stuff your poly tight on the bottom, and 1 loose on the top and 1 with no poly
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Got my bucket ready, and my bags will be ready in a few days. can't wait to try this.
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nitten
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I love the look of this and happen to have a lonely qt of grain spawn almost fully colonised, gonna try a bucket for sure! What is achieved by changing from the micropore tape to polyfill? Allows more FAE or affects RH or something I'm not getting? I don't know much about monos/bulk etc so pls excuse the ignorance.
Cheers
(Edit: my question was pretty unclear...hopefully a little better now)
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