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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436049 - 01/18/14 01:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i wasn't implying that eminem could be considered a hick, but rather a nigger. and that is only since we are using your "free range" definitions loophole.

get back to the point. why is using hick any different than using nigger?

flat out. no bullshit. explain it to me using facts or objective data. not this crap about "well i am not racist because i didn't know that hick was a racist term".

get passed the FACT that hick is a racist term. you are just wrong if you insist that it isn't. that is a fact.

all you need to do now, is agree that "nigger" is also a racist term, and that we both used our respective racial terms in the exact same context.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436070 - 01/18/14 01:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i wasn't implying that eminem could be considered a hick, but rather a nigger. and that is only since we are using your "free range" definitions loophole.

get back to the point. why is using hick any different than using nigger?

flat out. no bullshit. explain it to me using facts or objective data. not this crap about "well i am not racist because i didn't know that hick was a racist term".

get passed the FACT that hick is a racist term. you are just wrong if you insist that it isn't. that is a fact.

all you need to do now, is agree that "nigger" is also a racist term, and that we both used our respective racial terms in the exact same context.




Nope, look it the fuck up.  Hick:  "a person who lives in the country, regarded as being unintelligent or provincial: wondering what a hick from the sticks was doing there | [ as modifier ] : a hick town."

Argue it as a mere matter of semantics as you will, but I was once a poor, white young male, but never lacked the cultural awareness -  had access to a $.50 library card.  The problem is, the term "nigger" unequivocally offensive to all black people. I found no offense to the term hick being applied to unsophisticated, narrow-minded people, who lacked a basic curiosity about the greater world around them, never saw the term segregating race.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436095 - 01/18/14 01:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Let's try again with the term faggot, are we to say excessively feminine men who sully your mood by acting exceeding flamboyant deserve the term faggot applied to them?  Did they do a fucking thing to not live and let live by merely being flamboyant?  Would I use the term hick against others who would not live and let live - absofuckinglutely not.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436121 - 01/18/14 02:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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i wasn't implying that eminem could be considered a hick, but rather a nigger. and that is only since we are using your "free range" definitions loophole.

get back to the point. why is using hick any different than using nigger?

flat out. no bullshit. explain it to me using facts or objective data. not this crap about "well i am not racist because i didn't know that hick was a racist term".

get passed the FACT that hick is a racist term. you are just wrong if you insist that it isn't. that is a fact.

all you need to do now, is agree that "nigger" is also a racist term, and that we both used our respective racial terms in the exact same context.




Nope, look it the fuck up.  Hick:  "a person who lives in the country, regarded as being unintelligent or provincial: wondering what a hick from the sticks was doing there | [ as modifier ] : a hick town."

Argue it as a mere matter of semantics as you will, but I was once a poor, white young male, but never lacked the cultural awareness -  had access to a $.50 library card.  The problem is, the term "nigger" unequivocally offensive to all black people. I found no offense to the term hick being applied to unsophisticated, narrow-minded people, who lacked a basic curiosity about the greater world around them, never saw the term segregating race.




and the definition of nigger is: a member of a black skinned race.

you can't have it both ways. either
1) I am not a racist because my use of the word nigger was used in accordance with the actual definition of the word
or
2) We are both racist, because the implied, modern meaning of the words we used have racist undertones to them that are widely acknowledged.

Now you are trying to parse intent. You are trying to say that your intent when using the word "hick" meant uneducated/unintelligent, yet mine meant "stupid black fuckshit asshole cuntrag motherfucker".

so why then would you use such redundancy? you said " uneducated, racist hicks". are you telling me that you honestly meant "uneducated, racist uneducated people"?

that would be like me saying "dark skinned nigger"... it would be completely redundant in this parallel universe you have created.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436128 - 01/18/14 02:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
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i wasn't implying that eminem could be considered a hick, but rather a nigger. and that is only since we are using your "free range" definitions loophole.

get back to the point. why is using hick any different than using nigger?

flat out. no bullshit. explain it to me using facts or objective data. not this crap about "well i am not racist because i didn't know that hick was a racist term".

get passed the FACT that hick is a racist term. you are just wrong if you insist that it isn't. that is a fact.

all you need to do now, is agree that "nigger" is also a racist term, and that we both used our respective racial terms in the exact same context.




Nope, look it the fuck up.  Hick:  "a person who lives in the country, regarded as being unintelligent or provincial: wondering what a hick from the sticks was doing there | [ as modifier ] : a hick town."

Argue it as a mere matter of semantics as you will, but I was once a poor, white young male, but never lacked the cultural awareness -  had access to a $.50 library card.  The problem is, the term "nigger" unequivocally offensive to all black people. I found no offense to the term hick being applied to unsophisticated, narrow-minded people, who lacked a basic curiosity about the greater world around them, never saw the term segregating race.




and the definition of nigger is: a member of a black skinned race.

you can't have it both ways. either
1) I am not a racist because my use of the word nigger was used in accordance with the actual definition of the word
or
2) We are both racist, because the implied, modern meaning of the words we used have racist undertones to them that are widely acknowledged.

Now you are trying to parse intent. You are trying to say that your intent when using the word "hick" meant uneducated/unintelligent, yet mine meant "stupid black fuckshit asshole cuntrag motherfucker".

so why then would you use such redundancy? you said " uneducated, racist hicks". are you telling me that you honestly meant "uneducated, racist uneducated people"?

that would be like me saying "dark skinned nigger"... it would be completely redundant in this parallel universe you have created.




No, I'll accept my redundancy in this case of a noun usage.  Utterly redundant.  Ya got me in my redundancy.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436130 - 01/18/14 02:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

and just be honest.

picture a hick. was he white?
picture a nigger. was he black?

honestly answer me those questions.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436136 - 01/18/14 02:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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SneezingPenis said:
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CosmicJoke said:
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SneezingPenis said:
i wasn't implying that eminem could be considered a hick, but rather a nigger. and that is only since we are using your "free range" definitions loophole.

get back to the point. why is using hick any different than using nigger?

flat out. no bullshit. explain it to me using facts or objective data. not this crap about "well i am not racist because i didn't know that hick was a racist term".

get passed the FACT that hick is a racist term. you are just wrong if you insist that it isn't. that is a fact.

all you need to do now, is agree that "nigger" is also a racist term, and that we both used our respective racial terms in the exact same context.




Nope, look it the fuck up.  Hick:  "a person who lives in the country, regarded as being unintelligent or provincial: wondering what a hick from the sticks was doing there | [ as modifier ] : a hick town."

Argue it as a mere matter of semantics as you will, but I was once a poor, white young male, but never lacked the cultural awareness -  had access to a $.50 library card.  The problem is, the term "nigger" unequivocally offensive to all black people. I found no offense to the term hick being applied to unsophisticated, narrow-minded people, who lacked a basic curiosity about the greater world around them, never saw the term segregating race.




and the definition of nigger is: a member of a black skinned race.

you can't have it both ways. either
1) I am not a racist because my use of the word nigger was used in accordance with the actual definition of the word
or
2) We are both racist, because the implied, modern meaning of the words we used have racist undertones to them that are widely acknowledged.

Now you are trying to parse intent. You are trying to say that your intent when using the word "hick" meant uneducated/unintelligent, yet mine meant "stupid black fuckshit asshole cuntrag motherfucker".

so why then would you use such redundancy? you said " uneducated, racist hicks". are you telling me that you honestly meant "uneducated, racist uneducated people"?

that would be like me saying "dark skinned nigger"... it would be completely redundant in this parallel universe you have created.




No, I'll accept my redundancy in this case of a noun usage.  Utterly redundant.  Ya got me in my redundancy.




:lol: wow you are really worried about this ban. but you are having a hard time holding onto the notion that I am a racist, while trying to prove that what you said was completely different. you are going to have to give up one.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436139 - 01/18/14 02:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quite personally I may add that I'm glad that I don't have to live near uneducated, racist hicks here in Portland..





Fucking

:burke:



Portland has to be one of the worst places in america, i thought this long before i saw shit like this but know it is fact.



You guys are so fucking white as is :rofl: Why don’t you just prove SP’s point while your at it. Y’all barely even have mexicans.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436158 - 01/18/14 02:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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and just be honest.

picture a hick. was he white?
picture a nigger. was he black?

honestly answer me those questions.




Sure, let me give you an example of what I would think a hick to be.

Overhearing at a grocery store by someone waiting in line behind a woman speaking on her cellphone in another language, ahead of her was another man.  After the woman hangs up, he speaks up.

Man: "I didn't want to say anything while you were on the phone, but you're in America now.  You need to speak English."

Woman: "Excuse me?"

Man: *very slow* "If you want to speak Mexican, go back to Meixco. In America, we speak English."

Woman: "Sir, I was speaking Navajo. If you want to speak English, go back to England."

THAT is what I mean by hick, don't give a fuck if it's white, black, you the fuck name it = HICK!


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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436168 - 01/18/14 02:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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:lol: wow you are really worried about this ban. but you are having a hard time holding onto the notion that I am a racist, while trying to prove that what you said was completely different. you are going to have to give up one.




Haven't had to prove anything, make a valid case for what I've said to be the same. Hick =/= nigger.  Refute my last post.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436169 - 01/18/14 02:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

they were simple yes or no questions.

you refuse to answer because you know i am right.

hick= derogatory to white people
nigger= derogatory to black people

if you have any balls you will ask wiccan seeker to give you a ban.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436176 - 01/18/14 02:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ive never seen that happen once in my life and i live in a “hick” state with a lot more Mexicans/spanish speakers than portland. Hell even the hicks know survival spanish here.



No one speaks navajo outside of the res and your state doesn’t even have a significant navajo population so come on man.......


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: elax420]
    #19436181 - 01/18/14 02:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

this entire thread all he has done is try to arbitrate what peoples intent has been.

he defended markos because he "divined" that markos harmless intent when calling me a racist was merely agreeing with me, not meant to be a personal attack.

the sad part is he thinks he is cleverly dodging and weaving, but he just keeps making my points for me with everything he types.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436204 - 01/18/14 02:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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they were simple yes or no questions.

you refuse to answer because you know i am right.

hick= derogatory to white people
nigger= derogatory to black people

if you have any balls you will ask wiccan seeker to give you a ban.




Right, as if philosophy, sociology, and psychology can be reduced to simple "yes and no" questions. :braindamage: 

Just because you say hick = derogatory to white people does not mean it to be true  Guess what, I'm a fuckin' white person... If that's merely the case, I wear the term proudly.... :bucktoothfattygangsta:  Meanwhile, this hick does NOT use derogatory terms against other races.  :ohwell:


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436211 - 01/18/14 02:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so it isn't derogatory to white people, because you are white and don't find it offensive?

would that excuse my use of the word "nigger" if there was a black person out there that didn't find the term to be offensive?

you refuse to answer the yes or no questions because you know I am right. if you say yes to both then there is no difference between what you said and what i said. therefor meaning you should be banned as i was.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436213 - 01/18/14 02:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If someone called me a hick it would piss me off :shrug:


I don’t know I’m not one to self identify as a hick, nor would i self identify as a nigger if i were black.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436220 - 01/18/14 02:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Intentions and attentions just a weaving. I think it racist to call the south, racist.

Just words.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19436242 - 01/18/14 03:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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so it isn't derogatory to white people, because you are white and don't find it offensive?

would that excuse my use of the word "nigger" if there was a black person out there that didn't find the term to be offensive?

you refuse to answer the yes or no questions because you know I am right. if you say yes to both then there is no difference between what you said and what i said. therefor meaning you should be banned as i was.




Can't keep up at this fast pace unfortunately, real life is diverting me.

I only use the term hick to describe some people who are intolerant of other people because of their race, gender, or sexual preference.  In absolutely no way, shape, or form do I picture in my mind the hick in question to be white.  My answer is quite simply "no".  I want the term hick to equally apply the :finger: to everyone who is uncultured and insensitive, as the word is not a racially derogative term... Look it up in the fucking dictionary.

For the latter, "NO!" I don't picture ANYONE to be a nigger.  I do not use ANY contemptuous terms against people because of their race, gender, or sexual preference.

Edit: Look the term nigger up in the dictionary as well.. Compare and contrast, see which is a racially derogatory term, then come back and cry about semantics.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: hTx]
    #19436253 - 01/18/14 03:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Intentions and attentions just a weaving. I think it racist to call the south, racist.

Just words.




Though not stated succinctly due to using the category to include itself, I'm still compelled to agree with you in this instance.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


Edited by CosmicJoke (01/18/14 03:38 AM)


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Re: have you ever wondered why the south is racist? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19436284 - 01/18/14 03:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Back from my excursion, so I'll close my argument for now with this point  - to me it's not rejecting socially unacceptable behavior that makes one 'racist', but the quality of that behavior.  To call one out for their mannerisms by using derogatory terms in relationship to their race, gender, or sexual preference is untactful behavior. That's qualitatively different from calling one out for being culturally insensitive, in which the term hick is utterly applicable to all in reference regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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