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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19388348 - 01/08/14 02:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i'd like to know the figures for non-drug related arrests. that's probably just as ridiculous when compared.


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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: Jesus Christ]
    #19388355 - 01/08/14 02:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When I was 17, my friends and I were arrested for marijuana  :aweohyou:


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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: PreludeLove]
    #19388389 - 01/08/14 02:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This is Hard to believe. Another interesting stat would be the number of actual convictions and how much of a disparity occurs from blacks to whites


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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: Pureless]
    #19424920 - 01/15/14 09:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well according to the poll in this thread assuming the average Shroomery user is white and early-mid 20s, Shroomerites (at least News Forum readers) have a similar arrest rate to the general population.


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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: naum]
    #19424943 - 01/15/14 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

wow jesus fuckin christ we do live in a police state:sad:


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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: i like cow poo]
    #19428056 - 01/16/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/01/_50_of_black_males_get_arrested_by_age_23_is_wrong.1.html

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The NLSY97 youths were 12 to 16 years old as of Dec. 31, 1996, and were interviewed between 1997 and 2008. The respondents are 29 to 34 years old now. According to the OJJDP, the overall arrest rate for black juveniles peaked in 1995. Between their peak year and 2010, the juvenile arrest rates declined by 40 percent for black juveniles. Therefore, the study really examines a reflection, and the immediate aftermath of, the peak in juvenile arrests almost two decades later.

The authors try to make the argument that their method of looking at prevalence is better than the more conventional approach of looking at the rate (arrests per 100,000 in the population). However, we have ways to look at arrest rates across the entire population. The study authors’ method of looking at prevalence looks at about 500 black males. Someone could blast the question, “Have you ever been arrested?” across the Internet using Survey Monkey and get a more robust sample than this team.

Although the study is new, the data are old. The study also contributes nothing new to our collective understanding about race and the law. The study used self-reported data on a group of black males that would not quite fill a gymnasium, when direct data from court records are available. We have legitimate issues related to sentencing disparities and school-based arrest, but this study and the ensuing articles are nothing more than stunts, designed to create sound bites for culture critics, caricatures of young black men and fodder for popular discourse (or righteous indignation).





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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19429394 - 01/16/14 05:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I didnt think that many white people got arrested in the usa as 40%, but the black part seems right. Im always hearing about prisons are mostly filled with black people in the usa. Even tho there is more white people. theres only like 1% of asian males in prison in the usa.


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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #19430488 - 01/16/14 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've been arrested, but in Australia, and for punching this guy directly in the face as hard as I could for ripping off and using my schizophrenic and near-retarded brother. I also put bricks through his house and car windows to draw him out while he was hiding behind his little security door. This guy is a fucking cheap, scummy, greedy little dodgy fuck. He deserved it but it's really not something I would do... I was emotionally reviled because of my brother's poor state and I also have schizophrenia.

No conviction thankfully as I fronted up with all of it and the cops supported getting a diversion which means I pay fines and apology letters but there is no record of any of it, unless I commit another crime of this nature then it comes up again and there is no opportunity for diversion for either.

Whew.

I'd probably be fucked if I was American.


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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: circastes]
    #19432139 - 01/17/14 07:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I've been arrested, but in Australia, and for punching this guy directly in the face as hard as I could for ripping off and using my schizophrenic and near-retarded brother. I also put bricks through his house and car windows to draw him out while he was hiding behind his little security door. This guy is a fucking cheap, scummy, greedy little dodgy fuck. He deserved it but it's really not something I would do... I was emotionally reviled because of my brother's poor state and I also have schizophrenia.

No conviction thankfully as I fronted up with all of it and the cops supported getting a diversion which means I pay fines and apology letters but there is no record of any of it, unless I commit another crime of this nature then it comes up again and there is no opportunity for diversion for either.

Whew.

I'd probably be fucked if I was American.




Good for you man it sounds like the asshole deserved it. You should have taken his balls as well.


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Re: 500% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: Darwin23]
    #19432289 - 01/17/14 09:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It depends on how they are looking at those #s, a lot of people get arrested more than once.  By the time I was 23 I think I was arrested like 3 times.


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: Darwin23]
    #19432382 - 01/17/14 09:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23




Which means squat. It says nothing about whether those who were arrested were in fact arrested because of their skin color.

What this thread says is that many here need to develop their reasoning skills.

Here's a tip... Knowing how many of a certain race/sex were arrested in no way tells you whether or not the group arrested more frequently did/didn't in fact commit more crime.


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19433003 - 01/17/14 12:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lets all listen to the white person that has probably never set foot in the hood.


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: fapjack]
    #19433377 - 01/17/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:lolz0rz: How astonishingly ignorant. I was born in "the hood".

My first two residences were in Newark and East Orange, NJ. Doesn't get much more "hood" than that.

Now... any other ignorant comments or are you done showing your foolish side for today?


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19433383 - 01/17/14 02:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Til what age, 4?  You are fucking blind if you didn't see how cops in Newark treat people on a regular basis.


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: fapjack]
    #19433456 - 01/17/14 02:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bound Brook. Plainfield. South River.

Saw lots of cops. Saw lots of blacks. Knew plenty of both and watched them interact. Some of the cops were assholes. Some of the blacks were assholes.

None of which changes any of this:

Which means squat. It says nothing about whether those who were arrested were in fact arrested because of their skin color.

What this thread says is that many here need to develop their reasoning skills.

Here's a tip... Knowing how many of a certain race/sex were arrested in no way tells you whether or not the group arrested more frequently did/didn't in fact commit more crime.


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19433499 - 01/17/14 02:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They get harassed more because of the color of their skin and more illegal searches mean more arrests.  A lot of it is also people selling drugs on street corners, but even still cops in black neighborhoods do a lot more pat downs.  I don't want to argue with you anymore, I don't even remember why I took you off ignore.


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: fapjack]
    #19433812 - 01/17/14 03:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They get harassed more because of the color of their skin and more illegal searches mean more arrests.




That's the story many tell. Sadly, they tell it without evidence to support it.


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I don't want to argue with you anymore, I don't even remember why I took you off ignore.




Probably because you realize just how childish it is to use the function.


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19434047 - 01/17/14 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data

If you want me to read it to you aloud cause your eyes don't work, I will call you on the telephone.


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: fapjack]
    #19434137 - 01/17/14 05:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm aware. So how does what the NYPD does indict every cop everywhere? If your brother/sister/father/mother is a bigot, are you one?

Better still, what error does it show in...

"Which means squat. It says nothing about whether those who were arrested were in fact arrested because of their skin color.

What this thread says is that many here need to develop their reasoning skills.

Here's a tip... Knowing how many of a certain race/sex were arrested in no way tells you whether or not the group arrested more frequently did/didn't in fact commit more crime. "


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Re: 50% of Black Males, 40% of White Males Arrested by Age 23 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19434152 - 01/17/14 05:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'll take a personalized story time phone call


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