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Offlinexxsoultonesxx
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working out the bugs in a poor mans pod...
    #1943213 - 09/23/03 02:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

imagine a poor mans pod almost exactly like magash's but with only one airstone down the center and a 16" (or something close to that) flourescent light resting on the top of it for light, on a 12 hour on/off cycle. the bugs i have are that since ive got the light running my temps have gone from low 70's to around 80-85 and my RH has gone to about 80%. i cant really move the floro any further away except for maybe an inch away fromt he lid of the PMP. and how can i get that last bit of RH? havent birthed or anything yet, because im still working out these bugs. any ideas?


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: xxsoultonesxx]
    #1943221 - 09/23/03 02:49 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

use a smaller light?


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: UrbanistiC]
    #1943243 - 09/23/03 02:57 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

what wattage is the fluro tube?


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: Hanky]
    #1943250 - 09/23/03 02:59 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

15w


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: xxsoultonesxx]
    #1943258 - 09/23/03 03:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Im guessing your fixture is the "under the cabinet" type. The ballast is whats generating the heat. I would find a smaller light with the ballast on the cord, looks sorta like a converter. Or just use a nightlight. Seriously, you dont need that much light.


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: UrbanistiC]
    #1943270 - 09/23/03 03:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

what about the humidity? i would think that adding heat to something that has that much water in it would only add to the humidity. ive got about a total of about 1 1/2" of space above the pod...what are some lights that could fit in there?


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: xxsoultonesxx]
    #1943316 - 09/23/03 03:28 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ummm, this guy i know uses 2-3-4 night lights the 99cent store kind, ones good but in a big tub fruits grow to it so he disperses threwout, and as off 12 hours dang yo if you concerned you only really need like a minute a day to get sufficient pinning and direction for growth i think 12 hours is overkill and a dead give away somethings up, id cut back your light to like 10 min cuz you prolly got a timer that operates in 10 min increments. i unno just cut that shit back way to much light and your gonna evaporate to much water from your cakes and create more heat then disired


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: High_On_Magic]
    #1943342 - 09/23/03 03:41 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i have a 1 event timer... im going to look into a less overkill light tomorrow...something that generates less heat.


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: xxsoultonesxx]
    #1943347 - 09/23/03 03:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

some people use christmas tree lights with great success...and they'd be perfect for your lack of space,and generate next to zero heat.


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: Hanky]
    #1943357 - 09/23/03 03:49 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

think im gonna try xmas lights. my RH has never been higher than 91%...any ideas on a RH boost?


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: xxsoultonesxx]
    #1943359 - 09/23/03 03:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

heh damp perlite keep you at 99, 1-10 h202 though keeps it nice an sterile and very low maintance


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: High_On_Magic]
    #1943386 - 09/23/03 04:22 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

never trust the read out on your hygrometer (humidity gauge) they are almost never correct.


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: Hanky]
    #1943537 - 09/23/03 07:22 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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never trust the read out on your hygrometer (humidity gauge) they are almost never correct.




Yes, I have tried two hyrometers, one a cheap plastic bit of rubbish, that registered 20% RH after a night in my drying box (there was nothing else in the box except fresh desiccant), and 80% in a over damp terrarium (massive condensation, and furry stalked mushrooms).
The other, an electronic one, was accurate, but was not good at working in a high humidity environment and kept dying. I read in the tek's cigar shops may be able to provide me with an accurate analogue hydrometer, I will have to check it out.


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: psilomonkey]
    #1943591 - 09/23/03 08:31 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think too much heat is the problem. I have two 14 gal rubbermaid tubs with water/perlite in bottom. In each I run a 16" airstone and have an 18" 15w fluoro tube sitting directly on top of the lids. The ambient temp in my grow room probably averages 80 degrees F. No hygrometer, but the amount of condensation on the inner walls of the tubs leads me to believe that I am at or near 100% RH. My fruits actually look a little oversaturated with this setup, so getting to near 100% with yours shouldn't be a problem. Also, my light runs 18h on, 6 h off. I know this is overkill, but I am sure it is not causing too much heat. Perhaps the ambient temp in your grow room is actually too low, possibly from cold air conditioning??


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: phungus]
    #1944347 - 09/23/03 02:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ditch the flourescent. Shrooms don't need light to grow, just for pinning and direction. This takes VERY LITTLE light, and flourescents are bad for living organisms too. Would you like to live 6 inches away from a glaring flourescent light 12 hours a day? Do your shroomies a favor and go with the christmas lights.


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: phungus]
    #1944357 - 09/23/03 02:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

well im not using perlite...im running geolite with a 16" airstone. the ambient temp without a light above the pod is between 69-75 F. right now there is condensation on the walls, but not as much as i had before putting the flourescent light above the pod. i think that with xmas lights instead of the floro i should fix the problems i was having...but if my RH does go up im not sure what im gonna have to do


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: xxsoultonesxx]
    #1950082 - 09/25/03 02:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i tried the xmas lights and it added MORE heat to the terrarium than the floro did... is only a couple of hours a day enough with the flourescent light?


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Re: working out the bugs in a poor mans pod... [Re: xxsoultonesxx]
    #1953426 - 09/26/03 05:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

well im using the floro again... but i have the timer set for only a few hours a day instead of 12...which took care of the heat/RH issues i was having. thanks for your input


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