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Re: My First Grow [Re: Valyr]
    #19431632 - 01/17/14 01:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I did a batch of jars on Monday and a batch of jars on Tuesday - both from Multispore. Neither are showing any signs of growth yet. I'd expect to see something in the next couple days. That's usually the case.


Never tripped on any kind of psychedelic before? So far you're missing out on a big part of what life is about. You started in the right place. Mushrooms are the king shit. Set and setting are key. It's not a "party drug". Like Terrence McKenna says five dried grams alone in a dark room and you will see life differently:)


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Valyr]
    #19431678 - 01/17/14 02:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hi, and your first grow is looking great so far. I would suggest you attempt a LC with your other syringe. How I make mine is I use organic honey and water. It's really easy all you need to do is take a couple jars and prepare them like you would for inoculation. Only put 1 hole in the lid instead of 4. To make your LC you use 1 teaspoon of honey to 100ml of water. In a 250 ml jar I go with 200 ml water and 2 teaspoons of honey. Wrap them in tinfoil like your would for your cakes and put them in the pot just like you would for your cakes but you only need an hour to sterilize instead of 90 minutes. Wait over night till they are cool and I like to use half a syringe in each jar. Then wait about 7-10 days and you will see a blob that looks like semen in the jar and voila you have as many syringes as you want. Just repeat the process with a syringe of LC when it gets low to make more. LC will keep for 1-2 months so I like to make new ones after the 5 week mark to be safe. LC are great for speed I made my most recent one on Dec.22 and it was ready by the 31. I inoculated all my jars on the 1 and they are at 100 today.

Some tip That I have learned over my grows is that when your cakes get to 100% give them at least 3-5 days to consolidate but don't keep them in the light. On my first grow I had them on a shelf in an open room and ended up with mushrooms growing in the jar almost over night. I also suggest latex gloves because you never know what kind of spores can be on your hands/under your fingernails and washing them might not get everything, and beside you get 100 for like 5 buck so it's a very minor cost to be a lot safer. From experience I have never had any issue working in the open air of my house I don't even clean the area or use lysol. I just make sure that my gloves are clean with rubbing alcohol and I flame sterilize the needle between jars. I have never had a contaminant following the PF tek.

One last thing when going from a multi-spores syringe it usually take about a week before you see any growth because the spore have to take hold of the substrate. One of the advantages of LC is that I inoculated 16 jars on the 12 and they are already at about 15% colonization. Also if you have any question feel free to ask me and I will answer them as best I can. Well I hope this info helps and good luck with your grow.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Danner16]
    #19431691 - 01/17/14 02:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no offense but
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Hi, and your first grow is looking great so far. I would suggest you attempt a LC with your other syringe. How I make mine is I use organic honey and water. It's really easy all you need to do is take a couple jars and prepare them like you would for inoculation. Only put 1 hole in the lid instead of 4. To make your LC you use 1 teaspoon of honey to 100ml of water. In a 250 ml jar I go with 200 ml water and 2 teaspoons of honey. Wrap them in tinfoil like your would for your cakes and put them in the pot just like you would for your cakes but you only need an hour to sterilize instead of 90 minutes. Wait over night till they are cool and I like to use half a syringe in each jar. Then wait about 7-10 days and you will see a blob that looks like semen in the jar and voila you have as many syringes as you want. Just repeat the process with a syringe of LC when it gets low to make more. LC will keep for 1-2 months so I like to make new ones after the 5 week mark to be safe. LC are great for speed I made my most recent one on Dec.22 and it was ready by the 31. I inoculated all my jars on the 1 and they are at 100 today.

Some tip That I have learned over my grows is that when your cakes get to 100% give them at least 3-5 days to consolidate but don't keep them in the light. On my first grow I had them on a shelf in an open room and ended up with mushrooms growing in the jar almost over night. I also suggest latex gloves because you never know what kind of spores can be on your hands/under your fingernails and washing them might not get everything, and beside you get 100 for like 5 buck so it's a very minor cost to be a lot safer. From experience I have never had any issue working in the open air of my house I don't even clean the area or use lysol. I just make sure that my gloves are clean with rubbing alcohol and I flame sterilize the needle between jars. I have never had a contaminant following the PF tek.

One last thing when going from a multi-spores syringe it usually take about a week before you see any growth because the spore have to take hold of the substrate. One of the advantages of LC is that I inoculated 16 jars on the 12 and they are already at about 15% colonization. Also if you have any question feel free to ask me and I will answer them as best I can. Well I hope this info helps and good luck with your grow.




much better recipes the honey and filters are always a good bet and spores to lc is sketchy and nevr use half a syringe to inoculate if yor gonna try spores and open air sux and should be like vegas and just leave that shit to yourself and don't suggest it, i'm going to bed now but again...no offense


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19431698 - 01/17/14 02:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Valyr said:What i did do though was I would preheat my over to 300 then open it up and pull out a rack and use that as a work space keeping my gear and such inside of the flow of hot sterilized air.




Really clever; good job! Was not smart enough to employ anything like that, plus my oven is tiny and next to a wall.




Yeah and I have also been drunk as shit and inoculated pf jars with 100% success using only a lighter and a syringe.

Valyr I like you alot but should we really be suggesting to new people to use an oven?  The glove box / sab costs like 10 bucks and it's a guaranteed tek over the oven which is at best moderately effective and at worst the opposite of effective.

The SAB with a fine mist of water sprayed into it with 60 seconds of waiting is going to provide an environment of still air that we KNOW works since people like Frank and Violet and TL (not to mention myself) all use them.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19431717 - 01/17/14 02:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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no offense but
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Danner16 said:
Hi, and your first grow is looking great so far. I would suggest you attempt a LC with your other syringe. How I make mine is I use organic honey and water. It's really easy all you need to do is take a couple jars and prepare them like you would for inoculation. Only put 1 hole in the lid instead of 4. To make your LC you use 1 teaspoon of honey to 100ml of water. In a 250 ml jar I go with 200 ml water and 2 teaspoons of honey. Wrap them in tinfoil like your would for your cakes and put them in the pot just like you would for your cakes but you only need an hour to sterilize instead of 90 minutes. Wait over night till they are cool and I like to use half a syringe in each jar. Then wait about 7-10 days and you will see a blob that looks like semen in the jar and voila you have as many syringes as you want. Just repeat the process with a syringe of LC when it gets low to make more. LC will keep for 1-2 months so I like to make new ones after the 5 week mark to be safe. LC are great for speed I made my most recent one on Dec.22 and it was ready by the 31. I inoculated all my jars on the 1 and they are at 100 today.

Some tip That I have learned over my grows is that when your cakes get to 100% give them at least 3-5 days to consolidate but don't keep them in the light. On my first grow I had them on a shelf in an open room and ended up with mushrooms growing in the jar almost over night. I also suggest latex gloves because you never know what kind of spores can be on your hands/under your fingernails and washing them might not get everything, and beside you get 100 for like 5 buck so it's a very minor cost to be a lot safer. From experience I have never had any issue working in the open air of my house I don't even clean the area or use lysol. I just make sure that my gloves are clean with rubbing alcohol and I flame sterilize the needle between jars. I have never had a contaminant following the PF tek.

One last thing when going from a multi-spores syringe it usually take about a week before you see any growth because the spore have to take hold of the substrate. One of the advantages of LC is that I inoculated 16 jars on the 12 and they are already at about 15% colonization. Also if you have any question feel free to ask me and I will answer them as best I can. Well I hope this info helps and good luck with your grow.




much better recipes the honey and filters are always a good bet and spores to lc is sketchy and nevr use half a syringe to inoculate if yor gonna try spores and open air sux and should be like vegas and just leave that shit to yourself and don't suggest it, i'm going to bed now but again...no offense



Hey, I am just trying to help I am not offended but don't just strait up shoot down my whole post and then suggest nothing except how wrong I am. I have never had any contamination fallowing any of the suggestion I have made. If the OP wants to use my advice he can and if not then that's fine too. And "no offence" but you should use complete thoughts instead of one long run on sentence that is almost unreadable. At least I am offering help, you on the other hand are just making conjecture.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Danner16]
    #19431731 - 01/17/14 02:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i let you know why i did it:shrug:
if you want me to break it down before i go to bed i will, honey has anti fungal properties and things like dex and lme will have better results
suggesting a simple hole in the lid isn't a very good suggestion for the obvious, sure it can work but lots of dumb shit does but we suggest things with a higher success rate like syringe filters
spore prints/syringes are almost never clean so there not the best inoculant choice for a lc, agar to lc is always the safest route,again it canbe done just not the best practice
and open air without cleaning i mean come on do you really wanna tell people that? lets just stick to telling people to follow a good sterile technique and not sway people to half ass shit, if they wanna do it let them cut corners themself at least we can say we tried right
and as for your last statement all i'm trying to do is help, and that includes you:wink:


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Re: My First Grow [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #19431760 - 01/17/14 03:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Valyr said:What i did do though was I would preheat my over to 300 then open it up and pull out a rack and use that as a work space keeping my gear and such inside of the flow of hot sterilized air.




Really clever; good job! Was not smart enough to employ anything like that, plus my oven is tiny and next to a wall.




Yeah and I have also been drunk as shit and inoculated pf jars with 100% success using only a lighter and a syringe.

Valyr I like you alot but should we really be suggesting to new people to use an oven?  The glove box / sab costs like 10 bucks and it's a guaranteed tek over the oven which is at best moderately effective and at worst the opposite of effective.

The SAB with a fine mist of water sprayed into it with 60 seconds of waiting is going to provide an environment of still air that we KNOW works since people like Frank and Violet and TL (not to mention myself) all use them.




If that is what you thought I was doing I must apologise. I was in no way trying to suggest that we use ovens as sterile environments for inoculations. Just sorta listing some of the dumb shit that I did as a complete newb. The only things I would actually put my name to suggesting are sab's and flowhoods.

Again sorry if it was taken as a suggestion. I really didnt mean too and will pay closer attention to such statements in the future. Actually the plethora of crap like that and just straight up false information on here has always been my number one aggravation so I def do not want to add to it.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Danner16]
    #19431782 - 01/17/14 03:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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no offense but
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Danner16 said:
Hi, and your first grow is looking great so far. I would suggest you attempt a LC with your other syringe. How I make mine is I use organic honey and water. It's really easy all you need to do is take a couple jars and prepare them like you would for inoculation. Only put 1 hole in the lid instead of 4. To make your LC you use 1 teaspoon of honey to 100ml of water. In a 250 ml jar I go with 200 ml water and 2 teaspoons of honey. Wrap them in tinfoil like your would for your cakes and put them in the pot just like you would for your cakes but you only need an hour to sterilize instead of 90 minutes. Wait over night till they are cool and I like to use half a syringe in each jar. Then wait about 7-10 days and you will see a blob that looks like semen in the jar and voila you have as many syringes as you want. Just repeat the process with a syringe of LC when it gets low to make more. LC will keep for 1-2 months so I like to make new ones after the 5 week mark to be safe. LC are great for speed I made my most recent one on Dec.22 and it was ready by the 31. I inoculated all my jars on the 1 and they are at 100 today.

Some tip That I have learned over my grows is that when your cakes get to 100% give them at least 3-5 days to consolidate but don't keep them in the light. On my first grow I had them on a shelf in an open room and ended up with mushrooms growing in the jar almost over night. I also suggest latex gloves because you never know what kind of spores can be on your hands/under your fingernails and washing them might not get everything, and beside you get 100 for like 5 buck so it's a very minor cost to be a lot safer. From experience I have never had any issue working in the open air of my house I don't even clean the area or use lysol. I just make sure that my gloves are clean with rubbing alcohol and I flame sterilize the needle between jars. I have never had a contaminant following the PF tek.

One last thing when going from a multi-spores syringe it usually take about a week before you see any growth because the spore have to take hold of the substrate. One of the advantages of LC is that I inoculated 16 jars on the 12 and they are already at about 15% colonization. Also if you have any question feel free to ask me and I will answer them as best I can. Well I hope this info helps and good luck with your grow.




much better recipes the honey and filters are always a good bet and spores to lc is sketchy and nevr use half a syringe to inoculate if yor gonna try spores and open air sux and should be like vegas and just leave that shit to yourself and don't suggest it, i'm going to bed now but again...no offense



Hey, I am just trying to help I am not offended but don't just strait up shoot down my whole post and then suggest nothing except how wrong I am. I have never had any contamination fallowing any of the suggestion I have made. If the OP wants to use my advice he can and if not then that's fine too. And "no offence" but you should use complete thoughts instead of one long run on sentence that is almost unreadable. At least I am offering help, you on the other hand are just making conjecture.




I see no conjecture in there at all. There ARE better recipes, multi spore syringes ARE a gamble, using filter material IS better than not, and half a syringe IS overkill lol. Also you suggested pcing for an hour. You dont have to pc lc for that long cause its water and takes no time to get up to temp. RR suggests 15-20 minutes. Especially when using things like honey and karo to avoid carmelization.

OP, pretty much most anything can be done in this hobby and work sometimes. But if you want consistent repeatable results its best to put forth the small extra effort to being clean and such and avoid the months of work a full grow can take (not pf but when you move on) being thrown down the drain cause you didnt want to apply a synthetic filter disk to the hole in your lid.

EDIT: Oh and Cronicr does nothing BUT help people on here man. Go ahead and read the first page of posts in cultivation forum. Heck read the first ten. I bet he's posted advice on atleast 90% of them. Him, bodhisatta, pasty and pussyfart are probably amongst the next batch of tc's lol. Oh and maybe twistedty too but havent read alot of his stuff yet.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Valyr]
    #19434623 - 01/17/14 07:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Welllllllll, What's up guys.

After four days and four hours since the time of inoculation, I have found a handful of my jars beginning the first phase of the growing cycle.

White fluffy mycelium has begun to appear at the inoculation site in a handful of my jars. I didn't get a statistical count on how many are beginning to show the growth, because I don't want to make a habit of touching the jars, getting my hands anywhere near the open holes in the lid, or accidentally knocking or dropping the glass and creating a disturbance in the layering of my substrate cakes. However, of my 12 jars, I can definitely say that I saw promising growth on at least 3 of the jars, which also seem contaminate free for now.

I am not going to put up any pictures right now, because honestly it's not that impressive at the moment. I just wanted to keep you updated and let you all know that four days was the magic number for me, and that from here on I will be starting to keep a better eye on my jars.

Once the mycelium has taken a better hold inside the jars and begun to spread more prominently, I'll also be able to better tell if I am dealing with any contaminants.

So in the mean time, no pictures... but no worry, they'll come soon enough.

Talk to you guys soon.

P.s. I need to read and reread the short conversation you guys have been having about liquid cultures in my thread. I'm certainly interested even if it's something I don't end up using someday.

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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19435214 - 01/17/14 09:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice! Congrats man. I still remember how excited I was and straight up instantly addicted the first time I saw myc growing on my cakes lol. Life long member now :smile:

Liquid culture is really quite simple to do but hard to make work lol. Basically all it is is growing mycelium out in a sterilized water and dextrose solution. Its crapped on alot cause although its very easy to make its also extremely prone to contamination. The upside though is its very fast at colonizing your grain jars. You place your agar wedge or whatnot that your using as an innoculant into the lc jar first and let it grow mycelium in the liquid instead of your grain jar. Then suck up some mycelium into a syringe and inoculate your grains with that. It being both mycellium already instead of a wedge or spores that your putting into your jars and the fact that its mixed in a liquid solution that can easily spread throughout your jars creating many multiples of inoculation points makes for fast colonizing. Ive seen posts of quart grain jars being completely colonized in 3-4 days with lc (since you dont know exactly how fast that is cause your not doing grains yet, just to give you an idea it usually takes about a month from a ms innoc on grains to full colonization). Im just doing my first experiment with it now myself though so no personal experience :frown:. Yet :smile:

There very easy to make too. A simple lc recipe like the one I am using right now is:
600ml distilled water in a quart jar
1 3/4Tbsp Karo light (the clear kind with vanilla)
mix well
pc for 20 minutes 15psi(yes 20 minutes. lc is water so easy to bring to temp and anyting over 20 minutes can carmelize the sugars in your mix)
add your agar wedge, a drop of spores or whatever (it is recommended to only use clean cultures on agar wedges again due to high chance of contamination).
Store at 75F
Should have a large ball of mycellium looking sorta like a puffy cloud in ten days or so.

Again though it is very prone to contamination so people reccomend that you run a test on your syringes before doing any mass innoculations with it. To do this just do a 1cc innoc on a single grain jar and give it a week(if even that). If you got myc and no contams than your syringe is good to go.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Valyr]
    #19435392 - 01/17/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ya, I noticed the same thing today with the batch that I nocc'ed up on Monday, but nothing from the Tuesday batch yet, so your timing was exactly the same as mine.

Chronicr was right, at least you should have a filter of some kind. LC's are contam prone enough coming from an MS - an open air hole is just asking for contams.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Danner16]
    #19435563 - 01/17/14 10:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

again i wasn't trying make you sound like you don't know hwat your doing or anything but just keep it in mind that when you post stuff like that you should expect those responses:thumbup:


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Re: My First Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19436292 - 01/18/14 03:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Did my count when I woke up today.

So far what it's looking like is 8 of my jars are showing positive growth. A couple of these look like they could be contaminated, but I can't be sure yet.

2 of my jars are showing no real growth yet, and 2 others seem to be showing real signs of contamination. The contamination looks to be a black oozy looking guy growing right along the opening where I injected my syringe into the jars. Of course the mycelium is beginning to network, but the black stuff is just as present, so I went ahead and just... moved these away from the crowd, but kept them in the same place so I can monitor them.

I am not planning to throw any of my jars out or sterilize them again if they are contaminated for at least 4 or 5 more days. I want to grab some pictures and be informed on what the shroomery might think the contaminant is, and just laugh at how nasty the stuff looks. :ducklol:


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19436293 - 01/18/14 03:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: My First Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19450935 - 01/21/14 12:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My PF jars are now one week into their new life. I've got considerable growth, so I'll post pictures and describe how it's going.

So far, I've identified two of my jars to be contaminated. I'm almost 100% sure this is a contaminant, but the pictures will be able to tell for everyone on the forum who is more experienced than I am.

My remaining 10 jars are doing well, but I've noticed one tricky thing is that not all of the holes in my jars have apparently been inoculated. For instance, Jar #4 is only showing growth under 3 of it's holes. Jar #5 and #8 are both only showing growth under two of their holes, and jar #10, the worst off of my uncontaminated jars, only has one lone inoculation site growing mycelium. The remaining jars, 1 through 3, 6, 7, and 9 are all doing pretty well though. I've singled out jars #11 and #12 and set them aside because of their contaminants, and I'm just watching them to see what happens with them over time.

Here are pictures of each jar.

Jar #1

Jar#2

Jar#3

Jar#4

Jar#5

Jar#6

Jar#7

Jar#8

Jar#9

Jar#10


Contaminants:

Jar#11

Jar#12


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19481304 - 01/27/14 01:16 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Oh. Em. Gee.

Hey guys. I'm really excited to be updating again today. This is Monday again and it has been two weeks since I inoculated my jars now. The BRF jars that I prepared are showing huge progress at this point, and I'm beginning to clearly see the path to fruiting in the next couple of weeks.

But all of this excitement is bringing up a few questions in my mind, and I'm hoping that I can get your guys advice on what to do.

First, if you haven't done so, take a look at the pictures of my jars that I posted above. Those pics are of my jars a week after inoculation.

    Let me tell you what's been going on lately.

  • Firstly, my fully inoculated 6 jars are beginning to colonize their entire substrate. There is very little area left which has not been touched, and it's mostly on the bottom of each cake. I'm getting very close.
  • Secondly, I have begun construction of my terrarium. I'll go over this more a little bit later.
  • Third, I am really excited to say that none of my jars seem to be contaminated, and I want to inquire about Jars 11 and 12 that I posted about previously which I thought were contaminated.


Here are some pictures again of Jar 11:



And here's Jar 12:


Now, originally I thought that these two jars were contaminated, because relative to the mycleium growth, those brown spots you see were pretty massive. But as I've been watching growth I noticed that the brown spots have stayed the same, and haven't grown at all in fact. Now my suspicion is beginning to rise, and I'm starting to believe that perhaps this brown spot on the mycelium is burnt substrate material from when I put my way-too-hot syringe into the substrate and tried to inoculate. I'm really curious what you guys think and whether you believe this is a contaminate.

Now that I have touched on that question, I want to tell you about how my terrarium has been going. I'll show more pics later, but here was the initial setup. I measured out a 2" by 2" spread of marker dots on and around my plastic bin in logically appropriate places to make sure I got use of the most surface area I could.




Looking good? I thought it was going well until I tried my hand at making holes in the damn thing. I didn't have a drill, see, so I used a strange method by heating my oven up to 500 degrees and heating a 1/4" bolt in there. Every few moments I would take the bolt out with pliers, tighten it into my screwdriver, and burn a hole into the plastic. This method was working well aside from the fact that I was burning plastic into my house, getting it in my eyes and lungs, and generally making a mess. I had a lot of stuff around to clean up after myself, and after two or three holes I would put the bolt back into the oven to get the temperature heightened again, and use that time while it was warming up to clean up the holes I had just made.

In the end I decided this wasn't worth it, and after only completing a small size of the box, I went out and bought a drill. It was the best decision for my terrarium. Now I am just making holes at light speed around my box and there are no issues. When the time comes for birthing I will talk about my perlite and how I filter out the fertilizers from my Miracle-gro stuff that I so ignorantly bought.

Now my last question is short and sweet. As my first 6 cakes are getting really close to being ready for birthing, I want to know what you all have to suggest for dunking and rolling. In my situation what would you do? And what the hell is double-end casing? What does that even mean? I'm pretty ignorant to it all, and the most I really know is the basic procedure at birth to soak for 24 hours with pressure, wake up and roll in dry, sterilized vermiculite, and then drop it on a piece of foil in my SGFC. But what do I do after each successive flush? I'm looking farther to the future now since I'm pretty confident I know the next few steps.

TL;DR Thanks a lot for reading, I know these are lengthy posts and that I have a lot of detailed pics and questions/comments, but again, the documentation helps a person like me, who loves to do things in a fairly scientific and fool-proof light. And as far as I can tell I'm doing things right since I have virtually no contaminates anywhere thus far.

Hope to hear your guys feedback.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19481404 - 01/27/14 01:36 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

First off before I forget, I didnt see any marker dots on the bottom of your tub. You want the holes on the bottom of the tub aswell. There the most important. Reason being that that is where your fresh moistened air is going to come from. As the warmer air in your sgfc rises and spreads throughout the wholes in your upper and sides fresh air is drawn in through the bottom, through your moistened perlite and thusly providing the humidity for your chamber.

Yes, dunk for 24hrs roll and onto foil atop of perlite in your sgfc. After each successive flush you can dunk again. Most do not roll again though.

No that is not a contaminate. If it were it would have taken your whole cake over by now. Probably burnt like you said.

And some advice, next time get a clear top tote. Makes things easier.

EDIT: Excellent, well organised and photographed posts btw. Enjoy reading them.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Valyr]
    #19481422 - 01/27/14 01:41 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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First off before I forget, I didnt see any marker dots on the bottom of your tub. You want the holes on the bottom of the tub aswell. There the most important.

Yes, dunk for 24hrs roll and onto foil atop of perlite in your sgfc. After each successive flush you can dunk again. Most do not roll again though.

No that is not a contaminate. If it were it would have taken your whole cake over by now. Probably burnt like you said.

And some advice, next time get a clear top tote. Makes things easier.




1. I did make holes on the bottom and the top too! :cool:
2. Thank you for the contaminate note. This makes me feel pretty confident that my 12 jars are contaminate free.
3. Will make a note that a clear top tote is better. Definitely can see the upsides of having a see-thru lid as well as just having the same sort of surface to drill through.
4. Thanks for the specific advice on dunking and rolling. Dunk and roll once, then dunk each successive flush makes pretty good sense to me.


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    #19481641 - 01/27/14 02:37 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

5 :mushroom2: for you my friend. Mostly because I like your signature, also because you take advice well, you dont seem to be hard headed and you make changes when necessary based on the advice of those who are more experienced.  Keep up the good work!  I hope you are blessed with many fruits!


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    #19481664 - 01/27/14 02:41 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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5 :mushroom2: for you my friend. Mostly because I like your signature, also because you take advice well, you dont seem to be hard headed and you make changes when necessary based on the advice of those who are more experienced.  Keep up the good work!  I hope you are blessed with many fruits!



i'll second that, nice when people listen without bias


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