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FrankHorrigan
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: vikingsc] 1
#19425371 - 01/15/14 10:42 PM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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JohnnieYen
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I heavily misted yesterday when I saw some small guys open up. Maybe do a bottom water as the grain cake has pulled away from the side of the container a bit.
Shrooms are kinda dinky but I'm hopeful for future flushes
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vikingsc
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bodhisatta 
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: vikingsc]
#19427283 - 01/16/14 10:26 AM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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Gorlami



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Re: trying out vtek [Re: vikingsc]
#19427292 - 01/16/14 10:27 AM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Gorlami]
#19427316 - 01/16/14 10:34 AM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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JohnnieYen
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so I picked the flush yesterday, was 214g wet for the 2 bins. Didn't pick every container and some just had 1 or 2. Gave it a good water so we'll see how the next flush comes in.
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tripmob
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Good job. Congrats on your first vtek harvest. May each flush be bigger then the last!
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Violet



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Re: trying out vtek [Re: tripmob]
#19432496 - 01/17/14 10:05 AM (11 years, 2 days ago) |
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214g wet from 24 containers? That's less than a dry gram per container... Multi-spore I'd hope for say 3-4 grams from each of the first several flushes. Congrats on the success! But definitely keep working on providing water and ideal conditions. I see you still have the poly-fil holes there, perhaps try covering them and fanning.
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chaka333
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
#19432510 - 01/17/14 10:10 AM (11 years, 2 days ago) |
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bodhisatta 
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: chaka333]
#19432519 - 01/17/14 10:12 AM (11 years, 2 days ago) |
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Did you forget the ferts?
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JohnnieYen
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
#19432528 - 01/17/14 10:15 AM (11 years, 2 days ago) |
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yeah they were pretty small but it was due to lack of water. I didn't pick all of em and I saw a bunch of new pins already.
i would like to use polyfil for fae due to the fact that I can only be there once a day if that. So looking for the set and forget you get with mono's.
My other 24 containers are probably 3-4 days away from full colonization. I'm thinking when they are done I will soak the grains, then wait for pins before I case them.
i had quite a few pins grow down that I can't harvest, perhaps the fact that I cased before I saw pins made this happen?
Anyway it's a learning process with a new technique, thanks for your tips and well written teks violet.
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JohnnieYen said: i would like to use polyfil for fae due to the fact that I can only be there once a day if that. So looking for the set and forget you get with mono's.
May I suggest then that you cover all of the holes except the Top ones, and don't stuff them lightly if they are. These seriously don't need near the fresh-air exchange that giant mono cakes do, so when they get it you have dryness problems.
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JohnnieYen said: My other 24 containers are probably 3-4 days away from full colonization. I'm thinking when they are done I will soak the grains, then wait for pins before I case them.
They need consolidation time! Case them no sooner than 5 days after fully colonized IMO. So far I believe I've seen best results with at a week or more consolidation.
And don't wait for pins to case them! You'll wait a long time and it will cause drying problems on the cake. It's almost as if the cake is waiting on a casing layer to fruit, at least to fruit ideally.
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JohnnieYen said: i had quite a few pins grow down that I can't harvest, perhaps the fact that I cased before I saw pins made this happen?
Nope!
When you case, be sure to press the casing against the sides of the container. "Seal-in" the cake underneath the casing, and the cultures are much more likely to choose only the exposed top for fruiting since it's a nice microclimate with exposure to fresh-air exchange and a low-nutrition environment on which to fruit.
Rather than late-casing as a casing experiment, I'd suggest letting casing layers colonize fully before fruiting, pretty much almost the exact opposite.
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JohnnieYen
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
#19432661 - 01/17/14 10:54 AM (11 years, 2 days ago) |
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Awesome!
I did consolidation with these last ones at a week, and I pressed the casing against the side but I didn't want to compress it too much.
I will use these tips on my next run and change up the poly on these asap.
Thx!
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JohnnieYen
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so trich... much death...
Got some bigger ones than the first but yeah. I`ll try this again sometime using grass seed and potting soil. See if I can get some better results
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Gorlami



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Bummer, sorry for the Trich man, nice that you got something at least for your efforts. 
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bodhisatta 
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JohnnieYen said:

so trich... much death...
Got some bigger ones than the first but yeah. I`ll try this again sometime using grass seed and potting soil. See if I can get some better results
I call BS only shit slinging poo farming old age growers get trich. 
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anne halonium said: V tek is about AVOIDING trich.
from our POV, were not interested in a fast flush and a trich finale,
if your happy with your bulks fine. some of us need more performance and more reliability. i cant risk wiping out my lab with trich cuz of some frank tek.
and if ya havent triched out yet, you will everyone else using his teks does, even he does. thats the trick part. dont be triched.
we use a fraction of the sub, and get multi flushes, and we rarely? end in trich.
should be obvious at face value. multi flushes always beat a one trich pony sub tub. *(even though must bulkers get to 2-3+ flushes...?)
as peeps grasp the utility of v-tek on so many levels, alot of the myths will subside. (I hope so)
so is the v-tek good for the 3rd floor lakefront boardwalk tower dwellers with a doorman whom a maid cannot distract?
I don't think any of us in this community here at shroomery know how to do v-tek as good as anne or violet ever will 
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Next, Violet and anne. I am sure that you feel like you are being singled out right now, but I am doing so for a reason. This is your tek for sure, but it stopped being exclusive the moment you posted it. To respond to intelligent critique is expected, but to do so in a cryptic manner, pulling out pics of mushrooms on rulers, getting overly defensive, referring to bulkers as ostrich noobs, is not painting you in a positive light. To suggest that you need a lab to grow, or that trich is a reason to repaint your house, is also not going to win many to your cause. I will say that I have received many these last few weeks, from many people who find the v tek appealing for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, they also find that your writeups are vague in areas, responses to questions cryptic, and general demeanor to be off putting. I hope for the sake of many that you two can rise above that and use your knowledge to just help people grow mushrooms. I swear my dream would be to read either of you giving some much needed help to a noob on their bulk attempt, without editorial overtones or sarcasm, same way any bulker would help a noob with the pf tek.
exactly,
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vikingsc
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: cronicr]
#19480991 - 01/27/14 12:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
 this is gonna get good
 In come the haters..... Let's see if we can set up a cage match. V Tek growers in one corner and bulk in the other. Now fight to the death!
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