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JohnnieYen
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trying out vtek (w/ pin pics)
#19416566 - 01/14/14 09:53 AM (11 years, 5 days ago) |
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Just some shots of some pins, don't want drama in this thread, lol!
Multispore G2G Orissa on rye grains, cased with straight coco properly pasteurized. Grains were soaked with some fert.
I've done tubs for 3 years and this is my first with containers. We'll see how it goes.
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looks rocking johnny!
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: cronicr]
#19416631 - 01/14/14 10:06 AM (11 years, 5 days ago) |
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Thanks cron!
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i like how you used the coir for a casing layer! been alot of people misunderstood about that
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: cronicr]
#19416817 - 01/14/14 10:52 AM (11 years, 5 days ago) |
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Gotta admit that this tek is very interesting to me. Not gonna try it for a while since im still a newb and wanna get what ive already learned down to a science before expanding my knowledge again but definitely interested for down the road a piece.
Im still confused by people using coir as a casing layer lol. In my experience if the layer is too nutritous than it keeps the mycelium in a colonizing stage instead of fruiting. So you get half the tub producing fruits and the other half eating more substrate. Just seems like it confuses the myc lol.
But again I am a newb so please forgive me my ignorant veiws if that is what they are .
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Valyr]
#19416893 - 01/14/14 11:13 AM (11 years, 5 days ago) |
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I cased those before I saw any pins. It was about 7 days after I cased I saw the first pin.
Now things are staring to come in fairly evenly especially with a MS grow. Happy with the results so far.
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are those 66 quart monotubs your using as the FC for the vtek?
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: cronicr]
#19417033 - 01/14/14 11:58 AM (11 years, 5 days ago) |
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Cool!
Maybe it's just the coir casing, but it looks dry to me. Perhaps those 'mono' holes... remember these cakes don't really need that. If it were me I'd tape them over, maybe only using one a couple open ones if you really want to, stuffed tight
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JohnnieYen
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bodhisatta said: are those 66 quart monotubs your using as the FC for the vtek?

yes, sterlite ones with the purple handles. Fit 12 containers perfect.
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
#19417085 - 01/14/14 12:09 PM (11 years, 5 days ago) |
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Violet said: Cool!
Maybe it's just the coir casing, but it looks dry to me. Perhaps those 'mono' holes... remember these cakes don't really need that. If it were me I'd tape them over, maybe only using one a couple open ones if you really want to, stuffed tight
Thanks for the tip. I've got another 24 colonizing so i'll try that with the next couple of tubs. I agree the casing looked a little dry so i'll mist one of them and compare the results.
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Just stoping by to sread some positive encouragement! Your grow looks good! Keep doing it!
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
#19417461 - 01/14/14 01:51 PM (11 years, 4 days ago) |
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Quote:
Violet said: Cool!
Maybe it's just the coir casing, but it looks dry to me. Perhaps those 'mono' holes... remember these cakes don't really need that. If it were me I'd tape them over, maybe only using one a couple open ones if you really want to, stuffed tight
Just curious violet, why don't v-tek containers need to go in a sgfc? Do they provide enough moisture for an entire tub to get humid enough?
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Sgt. Pepper said: Just curious violet, why don't v-tek containers need to go in a sgfc?
They don't need to go into a a sgfc because, unlike PF cakes which are exposed at all sides, these are exposed only at their fruiting surface, which also should be cased.
SGFCs are effectively the only fruiting chamber for PF cakes because of their extreme exposure and sensitivity. Effectively any chamber that retains high humidity works for these cakes because they're defended by the container and casing layer.
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Sgt. Pepper said: Do they provide enough moisture for an entire tub to get humid enough?
They would, but it would be to their own expense to expect the casings to handle humidification alone. You should have misting do this.
This is why unhumidified fresh air exchange can be problematic for these containers, and why air exchange, especially automated exchange, should always be paired with humidification.
"Monotub"-style holes count as unhumidified air exchange. The air coming in is dry, and the air that it displaces coming out is wet with moisture lost from the inside.
Misting is more than enough moisture to humidify the air in an appropriately-sized tub. However, if that air keeps exchanging, it's as if the misting and the containers are expected to humidify 2 times, 3 times, 5 times as much air with the same moisture you supplied. This is where drying problems start happening, and for little reason since these cakes of Cubensis don't need very much air!
4 containers to 1.5 cubic feet of air should have no problem humidifying the air after a misting on the casings and tub sides. However it's obvious that they'd dry out in the attempt to humidify a larger space of 10 cubic feet. There may be only 1.5 cubic foot at any point, but with air exchanging the same moisture would be expected to humidify perhaps 3 or more cubic feet of air by the next time you'll mist.
Control air exchange in favor of retained humidity. This is not only easier to set up, but involves less work total (just 1-3 times misting/fanning a day), no modifications to anything, and easily retains great conditions as long as you don't leave them to suffocate.
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
#19423569 - 01/15/14 03:57 PM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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How do you like it so far compared to tubs? Not asking you to declare which is better or any other drama by the way......
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: vikingsc]
#19423587 - 01/15/14 04:02 PM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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Hard to say yet because I haven't got to harvest yet. I know my casing was a bit dry and that will probably affect the yield(at least in the first flush).
Prep and G2G were very easy though. I probably will end up doing both ways for a bit until I can see which one I like better.
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well does violets method not require unbroken colonies which g2g would do?
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Re: trying out vtek [Re: cronicr]
#19423787 - 01/15/14 05:00 PM (11 years, 3 days ago) |
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If you mean make a solid grain cake, yes. But I got there with G2G.
Filled container to 1 cup line, sterilized. Then when cooled, I used about a tbsp of colonized grain, gave it a shake and waited for full colonization. Gave it about 5 days consolidation before I cased.
I'm thinking of soaking the colonized grain cake before I case the next ones. Casing material a little above field capacity.
If this does prove to be more contamm resistant than tubs i might end up being a convert. Time will tell though
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One nice thing is not putting all your fruits in one basket so to speak
It drives me crazy to lose an entire tub to contams.
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