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Re: trying out vtek [Re: vikingsc]
    #19481022 - 01/27/14 12:12 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: trying out vtek [Re: PirateSwazey]
    #19481042 - 01/27/14 12:16 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I can hear it now, Johnnie you didn't have a laboratory how could you expect to get the same results as the pictures you saw in the original TEK. or something like that.

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Re: trying out vtek [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19481052 - 01/27/14 12:18 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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so trich... much death...

Got some bigger ones than the first but yeah. I`ll try this again sometime using grass seed and potting soil. See if I can get some better results




I call BS only shit slinging poo farming old age growers get trich. :lol:

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V tek is about AVOIDING trich.

from our POV, were not interested in a fast flush and a trich finale,

if your happy with your bulks fine.
some of us need more performance and more reliability.
i cant risk wiping out my lab with trich cuz of some frank tek.

and if ya havent triched out yet, you will
everyone else using his teks does, even he does.
thats the trick part.
dont be triched.

we use a fraction of the sub,
and get multi flushes,
and we rarely? end in trich.

should be obvious at face value.
multi flushes always beat a one trich pony sub tub.
*(even though must bulkers get to 2-3+ flushes...?)

as peeps grasp the utility of v-tek on so many levels,
alot of the myths will subside.
(I hope so)






so is the v-tek good for the 3rd floor lakefront boardwalk tower dwellers with a doorman whom a maid cannot distract?

I don't think any of us in this community here at shroomery know how to do v-tek as good as anne or violet ever will :sad:

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Next, Violet and anne. I am sure that you feel like you are being singled out right now, but I am doing so for a reason. This is your tek for sure, but it stopped being exclusive the moment you posted it. To respond to intelligent critique is expected, but to do so in a cryptic manner, pulling out pics of mushrooms on rulers, getting overly defensive, referring to bulkers as ostrich noobs, is not painting you in a positive light. To suggest that you need a lab to grow, or that trich is a reason to repaint your house, is also not going to win many to your cause. I will say that I have received many :pm: these last few weeks, from many people who find the v tek appealing for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, they also find that your writeups are vague in areas, responses to questions cryptic, and general demeanor to be off putting. I hope for the sake of many that you two can rise above that and use your knowledge to just help people grow mushrooms. I swear my dream would be to read either of you giving some much needed help to a noob on their bulk attempt, without editorial overtones or sarcasm, same way any bulker would help a noob with the pf tek.



exactly,









Did you really need to start it all up again?


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19481060 - 01/27/14 12:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I can hear it now, Johnnie you didn't have a laboratory how could you expect to get the same results as the pictures you saw in the original TEK. or something like that.




It`s cuz I don`t have a maid


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #19481066 - 01/27/14 12:20 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I can hear it now, Johnnie you didn't have a laboratory how could you expect to get the same results as the pictures you saw in the original TEK. or something like that.




It`s cuz I don`t have a maid



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Re: trying out vtek [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #19481072 - 01/27/14 12:22 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

So silly and trivial, bod.  Being a pollutant on the boards.
Fucking get over your trifling self already.

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so trich... much death...
Got some bigger ones than the first but yeah. I`ll try this again sometime using grass seed and potting soil. See if I can get some better results



Are a bunch of those Trich spots on the bases of cut stems?  Even if so, but especially if not:
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I'd suggest letting casing layers colonize fully before fruiting



Also suggest using potting soil casing layer.  IME Trich seems to have more affinity for Peat - I know you cased with coir, but I see the same kind of trichiness on colonized coir casings.

Especially if... it was really dry!  Dry, then wettened, then dried again, then wettened... Trich central.  Control your gas exchange and keep humidity up, keep the surface mycelium healthy and not regularly re-wettened with contaminated water, you'll have better trichless results.

With sifted potting soil casings prepared the extra-moist clumpy way I do them, colonized well before introduced to fruiting (optional but my preference now),  and the conditions kept healthy for the casing's surface myc, these days I seldom toss cakes before they're spent (given that there's not already a trichoderma or aspergillus outbreak local)


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
    #19481079 - 01/27/14 12:23 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
    #19481091 - 01/27/14 12:25 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, i can see where I went wrong with these. I appreciate your help violet.

Like I said before, I`ll give it another go with grass seed and potting soil in the future.


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
    #19481105 - 01/27/14 12:27 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Are a bunch of those Trich spots on the bases of cut stems?



I'm mostly just curious if Trich moreso attacked dying stem mycelium or the so-so-colonized dried/wettened/dried/wettened coir casing.


BTW looks like some of those were destined for nice flushes!


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #19481110 - 01/27/14 12:28 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Good story, sad ending :frown:


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
    #19481114 - 01/27/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

because of the trich i can't tell if you cut or twisted to harvest


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
    #19481122 - 01/27/14 12:30 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Are a bunch of those Trich spots on the bases of cut stems?



I'm mostly just curious if Trich moreso attacked dying stem mycelium or the dried/wettened/dried/wettened coir casing.





Some were on cut stems, and some were on containers that didn`t flush. I got rid of 2 when I saw the inital breakout, and snapped this pic 3 days later.


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: cronicr]
    #19481127 - 01/27/14 12:31 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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because of the trich i can't tell if you cut or twisted to harvest




I cut them with scissors sprayed with iso


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #19481131 - 01/27/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

those cakes look like the hail strait outta hastings:crazy:


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #19481134 - 01/27/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I twist-pull to harvest.  With some strains they can have a strong hold on the casing/sub so I reinforce around the base while I do it.  Preferable strains let go more easily...  one more of many strain-varying traits that effect which is best for a given tek...

I never much liked cutting stems. I'd rather clean the bottoms of whole ones after they dry, and not leave dying stem mycelium which is delicious to Trich.


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #19481137 - 01/27/14 12:33 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Wow man, the trich came on fast.  Did it hit them all at the same time?  Your post 10 days ago looked great, then BAM!


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: Violet]
    #19485427 - 01/28/14 09:53 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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I never much liked cutting stems. I'd rather clean the bottoms of whole ones after they dry, and not leave dying stem mycelium which is delicious to Trich.




Never noticed this.
Why do people tell to cut at base if it's likely to go south from there?
My stems always just drown in new mycel, never seen anything but bruising from it.

Are your exp different or is this just applicable to pp5 cased grains?

(straight question, not trying to start shit!)

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Re: trying out vtek [Re: spacechildo]
    #19485455 - 01/28/14 10:01 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

I call foul...PENALTY!

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Re: trying out vtek [Re: spacechildo]
    #19485457 - 01/28/14 10:02 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)



got a decent flush off of these. And got a few good sized ones too.

So it wasn`t a total wash


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Re: trying out vtek [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #19485920 - 01/28/14 12:01 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Anyone ever try using colloidal silver on trich?  I'm a try it :thumbup:


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