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cronicr



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Re: Penis Envy: Initial Grow [Re: Holo]
#19415007 - 01/13/14 10:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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the bottom holes are the most important in the sgfc design, the air comes up underneathe annd through the perlite creating humidity, and your temps are fine
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Re: Penis Envy: Initial Grow [Re: cronicr]
#19416073 - 01/14/14 06:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How well do mazatepec cubes do on BRF cakes?
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Fractal420
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Re: Fruiting pan tropicalis pf tek ( pan-cake) [Re: xBELLSPROUTx]
#19416382 - 01/14/14 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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^1) it is not really possible to determine characteristics like what is "more visual" or "stronger body buzz". With syringes, your genetics are different every time anyway. There's only potency, and even that is debated. Some would say it all depends on how well you grow them (I agree with this), some believe certain strains like Penis Envy or Treasure Coast are more potent. But this is not proven, and cubensis can vary wildly in potency. According to wiki: The concentrations of psilocin and psilocybin, determined by high-performance liquid chromatography, were determined to be in the range of 0.14–0.42%/0.37–1.30% (dry weight) in the whole mushroom, 0.17–0.78%/0.44–1.35% in the cap and 0.09–0.30%/0.05–1.27% in the stem.[8]
Considering I've seen some pretty weak cubes as well as cubes where .6 would knock you on your ass, it makes sense
2) if you're simply looking for visuals, perhaps don't get into psychedelics in the first place, and out of all psychs, mushrooms are not all that visual. This is about cultivation, which does not go into specific psychoactive properties, only overall potency. Try some L if visuals are what you're looking for, or 2ce (most visual substance I've ever come into contact with)
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Fractal420
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Re: Penis Envy: Initial Grow [Re: Holo]
#19416408 - 01/14/14 09:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you also have no holes in your fruiting chamber
No there are not, I decided against the holes at the bottom because I was concerned that dog hair might find its way into the terrarium if they were that low. I have however made gaps in between the bin and the lid (on all four sides) so there is some air flow in between fanning. Does it make a difference that the air flow is at the top of the bin versus the bottom?
Yup without holes at the bottom it won't work. I wouldn't worry so much about dog hair because if you don't add holes to the bottom the FC won't work at all. Just quickly remove everything, drill, and fill up the perl again.
I have never seen a "dud", and I've only heard of B+ producing a dud on some post somewhere. In experience B+ seems awesome, but I do wonder about its origin. It has some apparently unique traits for a cube, and id even venture to say that the experience might be a slight bit different than other cubes (maybe just in my head, but seems like it, however, awesome and very potent.... But I've seen it shoot out like 3 different kinds of mushies so genetics do vary)
And I agree, would start with what vendors consider "classic cubes". Cambodian, Golden Teacher are very common first options. B+ as well. Id actually say B+ is the easiest I've worked with, and def worth in IME
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PrimalSoup
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Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19417552 - 01/14/14 02:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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some believe certain strains like Penis Envy...are more potent. But this is not proven,
Do not deign to damn the PE with faint praise unless isolated it out you have... 
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According to wiki: The concentrations of psilocin and psilocybin, determined by high-performance liquid chromatography, were determined to be in the range of 0.14–0.42%/0.37–1.30% (dry weight) in the whole mushroom, 0.17–0.78%/0.44–1.35% in the cap and 0.09–0.30%/0.05–1.27% in the stem
The Wiki is full of crap on this topic (including the whole stems vs caps crap) and if you try to change any of the misinformation a particular person with no apparent job or credentials pops up in minutes and changes it back to the misinformation...
This thread is about strain differences (or lack thereof ) and visuals are INDEED a significant variable.
But WTF do I know, I'm just another random person with a fucking nasty cold and getting bored. 
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19420176 - 01/14/14 10:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is for you, PS. 

Not the Purple Mystic (that shall come later) but I thought I'd share. Amazons, which, as you can see, got pretty damn sizable. This is one of the largest but they were all huge by cube standards. Have you noticed larger fruits with the prolonged consolidation or are these monsters just monsters?
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY Please [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19420507 - 01/14/14 11:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks! IME a smaller pinset leads to larger fruits - but the last PEs I grew spawned some monsters, and some of them dropped enough spores that I was able to do swabs and give them away. 

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elasticaltiger
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xBELLSPROUTx said: How well do mazatepec cubes do on BRF cakes?
Mine did fine.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: Sillyputty67]
#19422845 - 01/15/14 01:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have to say my aa+'s were very visual. Dosed up high enough. The most visual substances on the planet are Dimethylthryptamine, And its slightly milder analogue Dipropylthryptamine. After a few rounds of this, you wont care about tripping much anymore, and if you have any real passion for mushrooms you move to primarily edibles. Lol, at least thats what happened to me.
And that's why, if you trip, it's a mistake to trip for visuals. You'll burn out on it and miss all the rest of the goodie box...  
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19422870 - 01/15/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: Blackd0ve420]
#19422925 - 01/15/14 01:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Visuals are part of the 2nd bardo of the psychedelic experience as described by Leary...based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead....
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: Nakor420]
#19422959 - 01/15/14 01:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, but when I see great visuals with shrooms I just consider it a welcome bonus, and unless I'm way over my usual dosage they start in the comeup and last for about half an hour. I've had similar visuals while meditating though, so I think the endogenous chemicals that produce dreams work in much the same way. There's a lot more there of interest though. 
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19423111 - 01/15/14 02:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Yeah, but when I see great visuals with shrooms I just consider it a welcome bonus, and unless I'm way over my usual dosage they start in the comeup and last for about half an hour. I've had similar visuals while meditating though, so I think the endogenous chemicals that produce dreams work in much the same way. There's a lot more there of interest though. 
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For me, unless I was way high dosed like you said, I feel a real change of state from the beginning and the hallucinations seem to stem from the original change in oneself. Cool hallucinations were nice bonuses, something to bring back to tell the world of the sane haha. But it was the "internal" trip that I would melt in. 
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Nakor420
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19423170 - 01/15/14 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Yeah, but when I see great visuals with shrooms I just consider it a welcome bonus, and unless I'm way over my usual dosage they start in the comeup and last for about half an hour. I've had similar visuals while meditating though, so I think the endogenous chemicals that produce dreams work in much the same way. There's a lot more there of interest though. 
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You are referring to DMT or Dimethyltriptamine
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: Nakor420]
#19423349 - 01/15/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Only speculatively, as the evidence is inconclusive that the pineal gland produces DMT in humans - although intriguing. 
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY *DELETED* [Re: Nakor420]
#19423391 - 01/15/14 03:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nakor420
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: Sillyputty67]
#19423461 - 01/15/14 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah No kidding...that's why I gave both names incase someone didn't know what DMT was...
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nne-DeMiTri
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: Nakor420]
#19423709 - 01/15/14 04:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Yeah, but when I see great visuals with shrooms I just consider it a welcome bonus, and unless I'm way over my usual dosage they start in the comeup and last for about half an hour. I've had similar visuals while meditating though, so I think the endogenous chemicals that produce dreams work in much the same way. There's a lot more there of interest though. 
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You are referring to DMT or Dimethyltriptamine
 thats like saying were you tripping on cubes or magic mushrooms bro?
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion HERE ONLY [Re: nne-DeMiTri]
#19423801 - 01/15/14 05:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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'scuse me, what?
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