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Re: The Psychology of Hoarding/Collecting [Re: freeofthought]
    #19411278 - 01/13/14 05:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My grandma hoards. It's ridiculous. She definitely has issues..


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Re: The Psychology of Hoarding/Collecting [Re: Forest Sprite]
    #19411319 - 01/13/14 05:51 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Death is a kind of fantasy, we imagine some kind of dramatic state of nothingness and that it's coming for us. It's only when you see the uncanny structure of the world, such as states of mind and states of weather, imaginations of oneself in the mirror, and the sheer mystery of the cosmos in healthy-brain lucidity that you can plainly see that we suppose this state because we misapprehend what the world actually is.

For me, I don't want to die, but death is not something to be worrying about. Life is too strange to end. I have seen/experienced such things as to be able to assume there is nothing worth worrying about as a principle.


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Re: The Psychology of Hoarding/Collecting [Re: freeofthought]
    #19411349 - 01/13/14 06:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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freeofthought said:
Im an ex-hoarder (it got really bad) but now I live as a minimalist. All my furniture is folding and I keep next to no possessions unless I need them for work or life.

My conscious/subconscious reasoning and justification comprised of several things;
  • I may need these items someday
  • the items could be dismantled and reassembled in different configurations to make things
  • did not want to see them end up in the landfill (but my house became the landfill)
  • if I threw them away Id lose all memory to which they were attached
  • the items were my "friends" in a world where I was a relative loner.





I think these are good points.  The first one and the last one in particular.  It's a clinging to things.  The need is just to hold on and not let go.

What caused the change where you went minimalist?


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Re: The Psychology of Hoarding/Collecting [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19411378 - 01/13/14 06:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LunarEclipse said:
Having to clean up after tweeker hoarders, I just get pissed.  Pissed.  It's fucking wrong to just throw shit in the dirt.  And why the hell would anyone save mail from 10 years ago?

Death anxiety.  That has to be it.





What's the psychology behind one continuously cleaning up after and complaining about tweaker hoarders?  Amend their lease to include that they pay for weekly lawn/home cleaning service.  Voila.




I purchased this property "as is".  It took the previous owner's lawyer about 4 months to get the previous owner's son evicted.  I "inherited" the trash along with the property. 

All leases call for the tenant to take care of the yard and keep things clean i.e. garbage free.  That doesn't mean it will happen.  And I doubt most tenants would agree to have to pay a maid to come in their houses to clean as a part of their lease.  It's just not realistic.


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Re: The Psychology of Hoarding/Collecting [Re: circastes]
    #19411650 - 01/13/14 08:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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circastes said:
Death is a kind of fantasy, we imagine some kind of dramatic state of nothingness and that it's coming for us. It's only when you see the uncanny structure of the world, such as states of mind and states of weather, imaginations of oneself in the mirror, and the sheer mystery of the cosmos in healthy-brain lucidity that you can plainly see that we suppose this state because we misapprehend what the world actually is.

For me, I don't want to die, but death is not something to be worrying about. Life is too strange to end. I have seen/experienced such things as to be able to assume there is nothing worth worrying about as a principle.





Get thee to the mystery forum post haste. :thumbdown:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The Psychology of Hoarding/Collecting [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19411795 - 01/13/14 10:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LunarEclipse said:
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freeofthought said:
Im an ex-hoarder (it got really bad) but now I live as a minimalist. All my furniture is folding and I keep next to no possessions unless I need them for work or life.

My conscious/subconscious reasoning and justification comprised of several things;
  • I may need these items someday
  • the items could be dismantled and reassembled in different configurations to make things
  • did not want to see them end up in the landfill (but my house became the landfill)
  • if I threw them away Id lose all memory to which they were attached
  • the items were my "friends" in a world where I was a relative loner.





I think these are good points.  The first one and the last one in particular.  It's a clinging to things.  The need is just to hold on and not let go.

What caused the change where you went minimalist?



My family pretty much had an intervention for me and threw out all the stuff. After that happened I never wanted to go back to that lifestyle again so I made sure specifically NOT to accumulate anything.


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Re: The Psychology of Hoarding/Collecting [Re: freeofthought]
    #19411807 - 01/13/14 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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freeofthought said:
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LunarEclipse said:
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freeofthought said:
Im an ex-hoarder (it got really bad) but now I live as a minimalist. All my furniture is folding and I keep next to no possessions unless I need them for work or life.

My conscious/subconscious reasoning and justification comprised of several things;
  • I may need these items someday
  • the items could be dismantled and reassembled in different configurations to make things
  • did not want to see them end up in the landfill (but my house became the landfill)
  • if I threw them away Id lose all memory to which they were attached
  • the items were my "friends" in a world where I was a relative loner.





I think these are good points.  The first one and the last one in particular.  It's a clinging to things.  The need is just to hold on and not let go.

What caused the change where you went minimalist?



My family pretty much had an intervention for me and threw out all the stuff. After that happened I never wanted to go back to that lifestyle again so I made sure specifically NOT to accumulate anything.




Being in the remodel business, and being lazy, I had a huge pile of stuff in my garage.  It was horrible because none of it was very organized.  My helper is pretty organized so we made it a lot more usable and also tossed a fair amount of stuff.


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