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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Positive]
    #19411288 - 01/13/14 05:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sabnock, Could I ask how do you brew?
How long do you brew the acacia, and how many times?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19412621 - 01/13/14 02:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

For brewing the Acacia, i basically do 3 or so boils on the bark and filter each boil. Once all the boils are combined in a big pot, i warm (not heat) up the brew, i add in the necessary egg whites, and then i boil the brew down to about 800mls or so and i filter it through a t-shirt and coffee filter. I then continue boiling/reducing the brew down to 500mls (or a little below it and add water later to make it 500mls), filter once more, and then stick in the freezer overnight and thaw the next day. The result, is a clear/translucent orangey-red tea with a little bit of remaining sediment in the bottom. I pour off the good tea making sure no sediment goes with it, and the rest of the tea that's with the sediment i'll stick back in the freezer and thaw again, and will keep doing that until i get all my Acacia tea away from any sediment.

Mixed with Lemon Balm tea and a little sugar, the Acacia is practically tasteless and very easy to get down.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19417510 - 01/14/14 02:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I took 2gr syrian rue + 2gr mimosa.
This was a full ayahuaska experience now for me. very remarkable, with visions and communication with spirits.
I have eaten less then 3 hours before, but there was no problem.
I didnt vomit, as I usually did when I have been given traditional brew in Peru. Might be related to the difference in preparation, or mabe vomiting is also related to other factors, such as the nature of the trip itself, and the need for cleansing.
But I think I am a more sensitive then most poeple.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19417739 - 01/14/14 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, i've been there. Back in 2012 when i was taking the stuff regularly, i noticed that i became more sensitive to it the more i took it. And before i knew it, i was taking pretty much the same dosage of Rue and Mimosa you're taking and it was indeed a full on experience.

Although the experience for me would only last about an hour with 2 grams of Rue. 3 grams of Rue and the experience lasts about 2 to 3 hours, while 4 to 5 grams last about 4 to 6 hours and 6 or so grams of Rue seed tends to lasts about 7 to 8 hours for me.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19420481 - 01/14/14 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It lasted about 3 hours for me.
I am probably more sensitive because I use Lemon balm intensively.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19421084 - 01/15/14 02:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wait are you serious? I Just took like 20g acrb and maybe 10g rue. I'll let you guys know how it goes. Last time kindof worked, but....

If this fails I will extract...


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19433239 - 01/17/14 01:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've tried acacia confusa root bark powder in gelcaps a few times before, taken with 150 mg Harmaline/harmine extract from syrian rue. First time I tried 2.5g, not expecting much. Turned out to be a light experience, and my first ever psychedelic. Another time I tried 4g, and then when I felt like I wanted to go deeper a few hours later, another 4g. And then, foolishly, another 4g a little after that... Fell asleep for a little while and woke up tripping hard, my first "real" trip. I was afraid to really let go and experience the trip. That, coupled with moderate nausea from the 12g of ACRB led to a somewhat bad trip, although there were some good moments. The world looked like paint by numbers, and time seemed to slow to a crawl. Couple weeks later I took 2g and went for a bike ride, it started kicking in as I arrived home again. It was light but felt a lot more intense than the first 2.5g trip, and reminded me of the bad trip moments I had the previous time. Sitting on the floor in the shower with my eyes closed and letting the water stream over me felt amazing though, haha.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: electron]
    #19731328 - 03/22/14 05:53 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I have tried 2 gr Syrian rue powder + 2.5 gr Acacia confusa powder plain with water.
I have waited 15 minutes between them.
The experience was not too strong, but a good and very healing one.
I didn't feel especially bad in my stomach, and didn't purge.
I might try to raise the dosage slowly.
I was planning to drink the Acacia with milk, as I have read it might help with the Tannin.
But I see that with this quantities, it is not necessary. At least not for me.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19732228 - 03/22/14 12:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I strongly disagree that taking the raw powder is rough on the stomach. Well, anymore rough than brewing it. I've experimented with both routes and by far drinking a rue tea followed by consuming 5-6g in capsules 15 min later is the best method of consumption. It's simply stellar.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19732956 - 03/22/14 03:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Sabnock said:
For brewing the Acacia, i basically do 3 or so boils on the bark and filter each boil. Once all the boils are combined in a big pot, i warm (not heat) up the brew, i add in the necessary egg whites, and then i boil the brew down to about 800mls or so and i filter it through a t-shirt and coffee filter. I then continue boiling/reducing the brew down to 500mls (or a little below it and add water later to make it 500mls), filter once more, and then stick in the freezer overnight and thaw the next day. The result, is a clear/translucent orangey-red tea with a little bit of remaining sediment in the bottom. I pour off the good tea making sure no sediment goes with it, and the rest of the tea that's with the sediment i'll stick back in the freezer and thaw again, and will keep doing that until i get all my Acacia tea away from any sediment.

Mixed with Lemon Balm tea and a little sugar, the Acacia is practically tasteless and very easy to get down.




i need to try this one


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: allseeingike]
    #19733199 - 03/22/14 04:57 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah i forgot to add in that post that after you freeze and thaw the brew, you have to filter it first, then stick it back in the freezer and re-thaw again. The reason being that after the first thawing, there's still what looks like egg in there as well as some sediment, so once you filter that out, stick it back in the freezer and then re-thaw, then the result is a clear tea with a little bit of sediment in the bottom, and then one can pour off the good tea.

Just wanted to throw that out there cuz i guess i forgot to add that part lol.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19733255 - 03/22/14 05:15 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

what is the egg for?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: allseeingike]
    #19734279 - 03/22/14 09:54 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The egg whites are to cleanse the Acacia, Mimosa, Chaliponga and Chacruna brews. I have tried it on Acacia, Chaliponga and Mimosa but not Chacruna, but all three plants made teas that tasted near about the same, practically tasteless and it's very easy to drink.

By adding the egg whites, it not only get's rid of much of the tannins and sediment but also helps to improve the taste of the resulting tea. If it weren't for this egg white thing, i wouldn't be able to drink these teas at all.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19736816 - 03/23/14 02:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I am not sure about the taste of the tea.
Drinking the Acacia/ Mimosa powder is not tasty.
Anyway it is like sweet chocolate comparing to traditional Ayahuaska.
I believe that also tea of Mimosa/ Acacia alone without syrian rue tastes much better then Ayahuaska.
Still unpleasant though. I drink it as quickly as I can.
But with Ayahuaska of course, the taste and smell dont leave you a long time after drinking.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19736833 - 03/23/14 02:14 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck NO!… you can't ingest powder!


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19737760 - 03/23/14 06:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I am not sure about the taste of the tea. I believe that also tea of Mimosa/ Acacia alone without syrian rue tastes much better then Ayahuaska. Still unpleasant though.




I use egg whites on my Acacia, Mimosa and Chaliponga teas, and it not only cleans them up into a clear/translucent reddish/orange teas but also makes them taste much, much better. In fact, i've drank sweet tea or sweet Lemon Balm tea mixed with the Acacia, Mimosa or Chaliponga teas, and it's so incredibly easy to drink. With for instance the Acacia tea, i'll mix it with sweet iced tea and drink it cold, it goes down real smooth. With Acacia and Lemon Balm tea, i usually tend to drink it warm. In both cases, it tastes pretty good going down, incredibly tolerable taste. Then again, i don't make the teas acidic and i use egg whites to cleanse them.

And i agree, don't mix the Acacia tea with Rue tea or what not, instead, i simply take either Rue seed capsules (which i used to do) or i take a Harmala extract or full spectrum extract capsule (which i do now), and then i wait for the Harmalas to kick in (about an hour and a half) and then will drink the Acacia tea and it's awesome.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: FUTURIST]
    #19737989 - 03/23/14 07:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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FUTURIST said:
Fuck NO!… you can't ingest powder!




Actually, fuck yes you can, with very good results, if not better than the brew. I've done it many times both ways. I prefer the powder


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19741032 - 03/24/14 01:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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i simply take either Rue seed capsules (which i used to do) or i take a Harmala extract or full spectrum extract capsule (which i do now), and then i wait for the Harmalas to kick in (about an hour and a half) and then will drink the Acacia tea and it's awesome.





You wait an hour and a half? why? most people say they wait 15 minutes.
What am I missing?


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: jivangilad]
    #19741079 - 03/24/14 01:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Well from what i can gather, i'm either a slow metabolizer of Harmalas or it's because i take them in capsule form. Even when i would take ground Rue seed and Mimosa powder in capsules, Rue first and Mimosa 30 minutes later, it would of course work but it wouldn't kick in until 2 hours after ingestion of the Rue. So, while i will feel a slight feeling from the Harmalas about 30 to 45 minutes after ingestion, it seems as though it doesn't fully kick in until about 2 hours after ingestion. I've tried waiting 30 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour, but i noticed that the DMT would only start becoming active at about an hour and a half after ingestion of the Harmalas.


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Re: Acacia Confusa in gel cups? [Re: Sabnock]
    #19743260 - 03/24/14 09:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting.
I am not a science expert, but if MAO breaks down DMT, and your body doesnt get the harmaline in an hour and a half, it should have broken down the DMT in the hour and half , when you have taken DMT just after the Hamaline.

Anyway,How much time after ingesting Mimosa/ Acacia, do you feel their effect?


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