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PurpleHaze147



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Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency. edit: i think its just my grinder now
#19409472 - 01/12/14 06:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the weed loses at least 1/3 of its potency when grinded with a grinder that has a kief collector. I prefer to break up bud with my fingers for smoking and grinding bud for eating. Sure the hash/kief is nice if ur smoking it to urself but if ur rolling with friends whoever has the grinder gets to keep the good stuff from the bud so make sure they put just a lil bump of kief in what ur smoking. And never ever ever buy pre grinded bud, that's a greedy dealer who does that especially when they say its the "shake" they have left over.. yea he/she shook the kief off the bud alright. When I grind a dime of fire I get a lil pile of kief that looks like a nic (doesn't weigh anywhere near that much tho)
Edited by PurpleHaze147 (01/12/14 07:35 PM)
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: PurpleHaze147] 2
#19409508 - 01/12/14 06:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PurpleHaze147



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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: LittleDipster]
#19409553 - 01/12/14 06:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea it definitely does. My grinder at least, maybe the screens not fine enough, its a cheap $5 4 piece grinder. I actually do seem to be getting more kief than I remember. Maybe I should by a new grinder than that way I have a choice if I wanna make hash easy or not lol? But it doesn't seem to be too off, I'm not even sure if it is, I do smoke a lot more now than the last time I had a grinder but that doesn't explain y I get that much kief from a dime (I don't mean grinder up I mean the pile look about the size of a .2 solid bug if u scrap it all together.
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lsdkiwi
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#19409595 - 01/12/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grinded weed > ungrinded weed.
Personally, I would never ask people with grinders to use kief... this is quite rude. If it is your bud, just use your own grinder.
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#19409596 - 01/12/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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PurpleHaze147 said: I think the weed loses at least 1/3 of its potency when grinded with a grinder that has a kief collector. I prefer to break up bud with my fingers for smoking and grinding bud for eating. Sure the hash/kief is nice if ur smoking it to urself but if ur rolling with friends whoever has the grinder gets to keep the good stuff from the bud so make sure they put just a lil bump of kief in what ur smoking. And never ever ever buy pre grinded bud, that's a greedy dealer who does that especially when they say its the "shake" they have left over.. yea he/she shook the kief off the bud alright. When I grind a dime of fire I get a lil pile of kief that looks like a nic (doesn't weigh anywhere near that much tho)
We had a friend that used to think the same way.... Would always complain about how he didn't get any kief and that we needed to scoop some on to the bowl. That kid was a bitcher winer that no one liked to hang out with.
Grinders are the shit, I love my grinder and absolutely hate smoking without it I recently smoked without it and I honestly felt that I lost a lot of potency because of the reduced surface area from the hand grinding. I'd rather have the kief end up in my pollen catch than stuck to my fingers as well. With the grinder I have the screen is so fine that only the smallest crystals make it through to the bottom chamber.
Don't go cheap on the grinder either, I paid 85 for this at a head shop and don't regret a penny of it.
Holy image was way too big so I linked some text to the picture instead batman!
The exact same one is only 65 on amazon with prime shipping and a free pollen press.
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Edited by Lizard Eyes (01/12/14 06:36 PM)
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: Lizard Eyes]
#19409601 - 01/12/14 06:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've never noticed a loss of potency by using a grinder. I use a Diamond brand one, pretty good at collecting kief.
If there's a loss of potency, it is definitely compensated by kief storage.
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PurpleHaze147



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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: KingKnowledge]
#19409799 - 01/12/14 07:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea my bad everyone. It must be my grinder. I get MUCH higher off ungrinded weed now than grinded weed. But yes the kief does compensate for it.
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PurpleHaze147



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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: lsdkiwi]
#19409822 - 01/12/14 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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lsdkiwi said: Grinded weed > ungrinded weed.
Personally, I would never ask people with grinders to use kief... this is quite rude. If it is your bud, just use your own grinder.
Yea I never actually have asked myself but when I smoke with people I usually do put a lil kief in, I only smoke with friends a couple times a week compared to smoking 5x a day myself
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lsdkiwi
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#19410714 - 01/12/14 11:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea I never actually have asked myself but when I smoke with people I usually do put a lil kief in, I only smoke with friends a couple times a week compared to smoking 5x a day myself
Your a nicer man than me haha. I only use my kief on myself
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: lsdkiwi]
#19411440 - 01/13/14 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The kief is coming off the buds=loss of potency...durh
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: lsdkiwi]
#19411441 - 01/13/14 07:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i actually had a bit of tolerance and was barely getting high until i baugth a grinder then it hit me like a ton of bricks... i couldnt sleep easily if i smoked after 5 pm because i would still be too high. not a problem now but it definitely made it stronger
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Shroomanism
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: GreySatyr]
#19412250 - 01/13/14 12:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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GreyMorph said: The kief is coming off the buds=loss of potency...durh
grinders collect the kief= no loss durhhh fingers are covered with fatty oils in which thc is highly soluble durrhrhrhhrhr
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: PurpleHaze147]
#19412272 - 01/13/14 12:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really don't like grinders. I mean I've smoked plenty of bowls & Js that were packed & rolled with weed that went through a grinder (with friends/acquaintances that use grinders), and sure it gets me stoned...
....But I can never bring my self to throw a beautiful, sticky, gooey, dank sparkly bud into a contraption that tears apart, completely decimates, ruptures, and smears the trichomes all over the inside of it. All the goods, all the terps, all the cannabinoids, all the flavor, is located in those trichomes which are broken open about the inside of grinders. I don't want that stuff smeared around & coating the inside of a grinder, I want that stuff turned into an oily vapor and coating my lungs .
There is the kief catcher on some grinders to catch the trichomes that fall off the plant material, but I'd rather have my trichomes intact when I smoke buds. If I want kief, I'll get a kief box and shake & make my own. And some strains are so damn sticky the trichs don't even fall through the kief screen in grinders, they just get smeared around and sticky it up.
With a grinder, the potency loss may be (relatively) small, and the difference in taste might not be noticed by most people, but I prefer to use my fingers to break up bud ...As always, to each his own, but I cringe when I see someone throw flowers like this into a grinder ...



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lsdkiwi
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: openmind]
#19412320 - 01/13/14 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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....But I can never bring my self to throw a beautiful, sticky, gooey, dank sparkly bud into a contraption that tears apart, completely decimates, ruptures, and smears the trichomes all over the inside of it. All the goods, all the terps, all the cannabinoids, all the flavor, is located in those trichomes which are broken open about the inside of grinders. I don't want that stuff smeared around & coating the inside of a grinder, I want that stuff turned into an oily vapor and coating my lungs .
There is the kief catcher on some grinders to catch the trichomes that fall off the plant material, but I'd rather have my trichomes intact when I smoke buds. If I want kief, I'll get a kief box and shake & make my own. And some strains are so damn sticky the trichs don't even fall through the kief screen in grinders, they just get smeared around and sticky it up.
Interesting perspective... Although I would have to respectfully disagree. I have never noticed a decrease in potency from grinding, and I have done it both ways plenty of times. Maybe I should do a more controlled experiment though . When you don't grind your weed you reduce the surface area that you burn, which in turn, decreases the thc you intake in total. Trying to burn the sh*t out of charred pieces of hand broken weed tastes terrible IMHO. Also, kief is like the greatest thing ever. Every once in a while, I pack a nice bong bowl with only kief, and kill it in one hit. It is sooooo powerful and relaxing (almost like a different high, like edibles). Can't do this without a grinder.
But hey, to each his own.
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Re: Using a grinder causes a very noticeable loss in potency [Re: lsdkiwi]
#19412543 - 01/13/14 01:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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BHO
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