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Re: My First Grow [Re: PussyFart]
    #19578830 - 02/17/14 09:01 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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yes just mist and fan for like 30 seconds to promote evaporation, as long as you got moisture on the surface it gives you 100% humidity there as it evaporates



We just went over that this is his problem. He is fan all the mist away. 30 seconds IMO is way to much fanning unless like Valyr said he is misting again after he fans.



You guys do realize that it is impossible for all the water you just misted to evaporate in 30 seconds right?

We just want to fan enough to cycle out all the old air in the chamber, so there is room for evaporation to take place.

It is hard for water to evaporate when the humidity is in the upper 90s, so we fan out the chamber for a drop in RH so evaporation can take place.

30 seconds is not too much, and will not require more misting until the water you just misted evaporates.



Well I am no expert but from my experience, I have grown about 15-20 times, I mist about 3-4 times a day and I fan about once or twice a week and never had any problem. To me it seem like there must be more factors at play that the OP doesn't realize then.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Danner16]
    #19579300 - 02/17/14 11:10 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I can only tell you what I've seen from my first grow, but as the OP I just want to say that after misting, there is no POSSIBLE way for me to get all of the water into the air by fanning. Evaporation is a slow molecular change in water, which requires just as little time as it does fresh, passing air.

Basically, last week was my first week observing my SGFC and I did not initiate more than TWO mushrooms. The reason I found was because I was not leaving behind enough water. A fine mist is perfect for BRF cakes because the water droplets have more surface area, and can evaporate very quickly as well as soak into the cake without creating pools of water that may harbor contaminates.

You don't need much mist, but you do need some water left on the cakes, otherwise things WILL dry out. I monitor the humidity closely, and if I see too much fluffy mycelium at this point, I fan vigorously enough that I am positive the fresh air has been exchanged inside the tub, and then hope for the best. That does NOT mean that I am getting rid of the water sitting on my cakes. I want a little bit of moisture because it promotes high humidity.

But more than anything, after I realized my SGFC was too dry, I sprayed the shit out of the walls on my tub every single time I opened it up to look inside. I think things are starting to finally maintain a good equilibrium now, and the humidity is settling to a good resting point after only misting my cakes lightly. So in conclusion, my new course of action has just been to mist whenever I no longer see tiny itty bitty water droplets on my cakes, and of course fan my cakes to promote FAE 2-3 times per day at the least. You can always fan a very high amount if you're confident you will not dry out your SGFC in the process. The more fresh air, the better.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19579635 - 02/17/14 12:45 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i don't actually time my fanning lol, just fucking mist and fan and quit thinking about it lol


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Re: My First Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19592527 - 02/19/14 10:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

All right, I'm back.



As you can see, my grow chamber is beginning to finally work. Everything is going pretty smoothly, and I think I'll be ready for my first decent harvest very soon; maybe even tomorrow.

Now, I wanted to touch on something I've been getting conflicted reports on. Drying.

About a week ago I picked just a couple of the larger shrooms from my cakes and put them in front of a fan on high power for right around 48 hours. After this point, I bagged them and kept them safe until I was ready to trip. When the time came, and I took out the dried shrooms, I realized that they weren't actually completely dry.

My question is, if I am unfortunately unable to get a dehumidifier, what are my options? After drying the fungus underneath of a fan for 48 hours, would I be able to get them more dry by putting them in an enclosed space accompanied by a bowl of damp rid or desiccant? As has been stated somewhat consistently across the net, it's pretty hard to try and just dry them out by fan power alone, and I noticed they were starting to stink after only a few days in a ziplock bag.

Any tips are highly appreciated. As I've said, I know the best method seems to be a humidifier, but I already have damp rid and a fan and am wondering if it can do the job or if I just risk the fungus becoming contaminated with any other process. I don't have real money or space to spare for a humidifier.

Edit: Just found a couple threads worth checking out.

This is the best one so far http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11051388


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Now, I play outside every day in a never ending summer; my glory days never faded.
And I smile ironically in the face of my doom.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19617351 - 02/25/14 04:28 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys. Wow, it's been a wild ride... but unfortunately my adventure may be coming to a close. I'll explain.

Firstly, my SGFC has become prone to algal contamination. Green patches have begun to show up all over my perlite, especially on the edges of my tote where water drips from the walls down into the abscess. This is my first day noticing it, but it has come to the surface already... and I know this puts a timer on how long my cakes will last.

Secondly, a couple of my cakes are turning sort of purplish black. I'm seeing a lot of bruising going on, as well as a noticeable reduction in size, and things seem just really dry despite my misting them continually. I made a mistake in not dunking a couple of my cakes after the first flush, and I think this was one of the main reasons for my failure on the second round of fruiting. I was honestly a little bit afraid to dunk some of my cakes due to the purple/black coloration already having appeared right around harvest time. Bleh, I don't know what to do.

Thirdly, I have already made considerable yield. Something I haven't mentioned, but that could maybe have been assumed is that I only set out on this project for my own purposes and have no intention to deal drugs or share the yield beyond a few very close friends.

I remember that after birthing, my cakes were slow to react and initiate fruiting because a handful of the conditions in my SGFC were incorrect. Everything was too dry, and I was not misting heavily enough and keeping my humidity where it needed to be. Because of work, I often struggled to get in the work I needed to on the terrarium, so that also pulled me away from the project. However, I did have some upsides in that I had incubated some stellar cakes... and I didn't face one contamination. I clearly took the inoculation phase seriously enough to sterilize my jars well.

So at last... things are coming to a close. So far I have harvested 825.88 wet grams of mushrooms. I'm pretty happy with that considering what I said above about growing for solo purposes, not to mention the fact that I have another syringe in my possession, but I've definitely learned a lot and this has been one crazy ride. I'm quite a different person now from when I started over a month and a half ago, and it just boggles my mind how much I've changed and how much I've learned about psychedelics and about myself. Having tripped twice already, I've already achieved a little bit of what I originally set out to do.

At this point I have a second flush coming in on several of my cakes which seems to be going all right. I'll harvest it and dry it like I have done for the rest of my yield, which is perfectly preserved now. Nothing is in the critical stage yet, but I know that the longer I let this ride with my current set of perlite, the closer I come to ultimate failure. And with all of the bruising and misting problems I am having on my second round of growing, I don't know... I'm just sort of getting ready to call it quits based on how much I've already gained. The knowledge I've gained has made me very happy in and of itself, and at this point I almost feel like it would be to my benefit to stop.

Any last thoughts or questions from ya'll before I just kind of wrap this up? You've all been a great help, and so has the shroomery forum history.


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When I became a man I was afraid to live.
But, when I became a little bit wiser, I became a child who walks with death.
Now, I play outside every day in a never ending summer; my glory days never faded.
And I smile ironically in the face of my doom.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19617395 - 02/25/14 04:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry to here your journey is coming to and end :frown:
But I'm glad you enjoyed it while it lasted :rockon:
825 grams wet dried is approximately 3 ounces and just doing 3 gram tea TEKs, (my favorite dose) would be good for 28 trips. Spaced out at 11 days apart, for tolerance to almost completely be nonexistent (110%) you will have enough shrooms to dose every week and a half for 308 days. You've done good :manofapproval:
Enjoy your shrooms to the fullest and come back for another grow soon, thanks for keeping everyone including myself entertained with your grow :thumbup:
Happy trials, buddy :hippie:


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Webster10]
    #19617439 - 02/25/14 04:49 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks a lot dude

I'm glad that I actually kept up with the log and made posts following every step of the way. It's crazy fun to look back at the first couple of posts and see me hammer teking my jar lids and then read on through the pages as my pictures ramp up into full on mushrooms... I had no idea how powerful they really are. I mean, reading about this stuff and then experiencing it are very different things. It's all just reshaping me and how I think of the world and it's a wonderful thing. It's sad how much of the world still treats these magical fungi.

I'm so glad I could entertain people and continue contributing to the grow logs of this forum. I've done plenty of searches and there are tons of awesome threads of people who started off knowing nothing, and then were able to get their own results some month or two months later. We all have those before us to thank for such awesome techniques to come to the fore that can be used by the inexperienced lay person.

:rockon:


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When I became a man I was afraid to live.
But, when I became a little bit wiser, I became a child who walks with death.
Now, I play outside every day in a never ending summer; my glory days never faded.
And I smile ironically in the face of my doom.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19617860 - 02/25/14 06:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Just read through this whole thread for the first time.

Really impressed with your report, very helpful for people like myself who is also new at this.

Will you be attempting this again or waiting till your supply runs dry :smile:


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Sabertooth]
    #19618631 - 02/25/14 09:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Just read through this whole thread for the first time.

Really impressed with your report, very helpful for people like myself who is also new at this.

Will you be attempting this again or waiting till your supply runs dry :smile:




I don't know when I will attempt another grow. Of course I've still got this one to finish up, but it will be probably be ultimately done before the beginning of March is too far in. I suspect if I do grow again it won't be until the end of the summer or next fall. I've got plenty of shrooms to last me until September, if not far longer as what Webster said about dosage is true.

Knowing myself and my limits, I'd say I won't want to dose every single week and a half or even every two weeks. Following the trend of many psychonaughts, I may have a break through trip which skyrockets me into Heaven to the point where I don't need or want to trip for a very long time.

My only advice to other newbies reading my thread is to remember to pay attention to the time stamps. Notice how I'm posting today on February 25th, when my first post was a month and 12 days ago on January 13th.I make it clear through many of my posts the context of when I was doing something and about how long it took me to get to the next step in the PF tek. This is not a hobby for the impatient, and I think that's been clear on every grow like mine. The mushrooms teach you to be mindful of your situation and to take great care and be honest with everything that you do. You have to remember it will take a while.

The hardest part for me was waiting for my final jars to incubate and waiting ever so patiently for my cakes to fruit. I had done everything. EVERYTHING WAS SET. But where were the mushrooms? I was already over a month into the project and I was dying for some results. But you can't think too much like that because you will start taking short cuts and then screw up the tek.

So keep your head down, be patient, and have fun learning about the process because even though it's pretty cut and dry if you're smart and do enough research, it will still take a while.

Cubensis is a living organism. Just like you can't make your little nephew 20 in 2 days, you can't make cubes fruit in one hour either.

Happy growing :hatsoff:


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When I was a boy, I was afraid to die.
When I became a man I was afraid to live.
But, when I became a little bit wiser, I became a child who walks with death.
Now, I play outside every day in a never ending summer; my glory days never faded.
And I smile ironically in the face of my doom.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19624584 - 02/27/14 02:25 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Go big or go home. I'm going to make a final stand. Tonight I got things sorted out. I'm in a good place to pick everything from my second flush and dunk all 12 of my cakes.

I'll use this opportunity while my cakes are soaking to dispose of my old perlite and then wet a new batch that will be algae free. I can clean out the inside of my terrarium really nicely and just start over with what I've got left. I don't mind going through perlite as it's cheap and not even the kind I want to use for an SGFC.

Here's some pics



This is why you do NOT use miracle gro perlite. Although, I'm not sure in the long run how much it would have affected me. All I know is it looks nasty and I want it the hell away.



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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19626134 - 02/27/14 01:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

yep you grew some algae there lol! nice cake


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Re: My First Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19626157 - 02/27/14 01:08 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Is the green stuff due to the type of perlite you used or other reasons?


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Sabertooth]
    #19626188 - 02/27/14 01:16 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

it's the perlite


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Sabertooth]
    #19627638 - 02/27/14 06:50 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Is the green stuff due to the type of perlite you used or other reasons?




Definitely the perlite. Miracle gro is a common brand of perlite used for potting soil and planting. Because of this, it is coated in fertilizer. When you use the perlite in a terrarium for mushroom growing though, that fertilizer is not helpful, because it will just create algae in due time. In my case, it took about three weeks for algae to start growing on my perlite. Since I'm dunking all of my cakes, it will be an easy fix while everything is soaking so I can just replace all of the perlite and scrub my fruiting chamber out really well. Hopefully when I put a new layer of the miracle gro perlite back in it will take a good while for the algae to return.

So yeah. My advice is that if you decide to go the perlite route, purchase it clean and in bulk from a nursery, not from the hardware store. Just make sure you don't get miracle gro since it's enhanced with the unnecessary fertilizer. Algae = Contamination = Bad for mushrooms.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19663757 - 03/07/14 02:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I don't even really know what to say after what I picked today... This was the biggest yet. The new SGFC and knowledge of how to run it and keep my cakes moist has really helped me provide the perfect environment for my mushrooms.

The one in the top right was over 82 grams alone.... :jawdrop:



Can anybody identify the strain? Is it Malabar or B+? I still to this day don't know which one I inoculated.


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When I was a boy, I was afraid to die.
When I became a man I was afraid to live.
But, when I became a little bit wiser, I became a child who walks with death.
Now, I play outside every day in a never ending summer; my glory days never faded.
And I smile ironically in the face of my doom.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19663771 - 03/07/14 02:34 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

congrats and good job:thumbup:


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Re: My First Grow [Re: cronicr]
    #19663782 - 03/07/14 02:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Nice to see, Congrats on this harvest :smile:


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Sabertooth]
    #19676217 - 03/10/14 01:56 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Last night, both the best and the worst thing happened to me in the entire grow...

I was tripping with my friend, you see, and I decided to weigh out 4 grams for myself and 3 for him. But what I didn't understand, and that I soon would find out while tripping, was that I had actually consumed more like .5 grams, and my friend had consumed perhaps even less. My scale had been calibrated incorrectly for the entire grow.

On an empty stomach, I felt the ~.5 grams, but my friend weighed his 1/8th of weed and found that something didn't add up, because he was feeling pretty much nothing at all. We put a nickel on my scale to find out that it weighed an ounce according to my calibration.... I was devastated. Not only am I a light weight, but all of the grow yield logs that I've been keeping are now rendered incorrect.

This has left me thinking that if I've only been dosing on something like 2 grams this entire time when I thought I was doing more like 5 or 6, then these mushrooms are more powerful than I could have dreamed of... I'm completely humbled.

This morning I re calibrated my scale and weighed all of my remaining dry yield. All I had was something like 23 dry grams worth of shrooms this entire time :facepalm:

I'm so embarassed. I'm so humbled by these mushrooms... I'm so weak, and I feel like I was such a fool to  think that I was doing so well at this my first time. I can't believe I found out all of this while tripping, and now I barely know what to say except that I need to wait until the next time I trip because it's going to be insane if I take a real 8th of shrooms.

My whole 800-900 grams of wet mushrooms that I had been thinking I had has turned out to be more like 200....

I can hardly believe any of this....


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When I was a boy, I was afraid to die.
When I became a man I was afraid to live.
But, when I became a little bit wiser, I became a child who walks with death.
Now, I play outside every day in a never ending summer; my glory days never faded.
And I smile ironically in the face of my doom.


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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19730181 - 03/21/14 09:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

All right guys. Well... It has been a long and beautifully winding road. I must say, I'm astounded at the kind of experience I got out of my first grow. I'm sitting here now with 3 beers down and ready to go out on the town, but I wanted to take a moment to reflect.

This grow did a lot to me. Needless to say, it taught me more than simply how to grow magic mushrooms, it taught me more about myself and what kind of person I am. I discovered I'm the kind of person who can go through with any project he wants. I'm a real ass kicking kind of person, haha. I don't know.

About a week ago I finally packed up my cakes and dropped them in a garbage can somewhere. It was one of the saddest moments of my entire year so far. I wasn't sad that it was over, I was mostly sad because of how endeared I had become with my cakes and after putting so much effort into them, I was honestly feeling kind of like a mother or father might.

One of the best moments of the entire grow came when I tripped for the first time with a friend. Having given him a genuine dosage of ~2.4 grams, it was absolutely mindblowingly funny and elating to see him trip for his first time on something that I had grown. He had visuals stronger and more interesting than I had had before, and that was rather encouraging. Mushrooms do something different and special for everybody.

So yes. This is definitely going to be a new hobby of mine. Mushrooms are sort of a taxing project in and of themselves, but that's not to say that I will never try LSD or Mescaline in the future. I'm really looking forward to continuing my psychedelic exploration. I think a mescaline trip in the summer would be a very powerful experience, and one that I could get down with for sure.

I should really shut the hell up though and end my thread once and for all so it can be archived and be officially written in the history books as a success story. So, I'll just end with some final words: I can't believe how easy it was. I can't believe how much fun I had. I can't believe that I had never done it before, and that I was too biased to think I could enjoy psychedelics. I'm changed forever and I have this forum and so much of the societal culture that I'm invested in to thank for that experience.

Thank you so very much and have a great time.

If anybody has any questions about ANYTHING concerning this grow, just comment and I will do my best to respond.

:goodnight:


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When I was a boy, I was afraid to die.
When I became a man I was afraid to live.
But, when I became a little bit wiser, I became a child who walks with death.
Now, I play outside every day in a never ending summer; my glory days never faded.
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Re: My First Grow [Re: Dense Cake]
    #19730549 - 03/21/14 11:19 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:rockon:

You did really well for your first grow..  And you should be proud..  Congrats on your success!!  :dancer:


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