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safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ?
    #19409110 - 01/12/14 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

what chemicals are safe for fungi but kill bacteria ?

lately i bought a household spray cleaner that states 99,9 % kills bacteria but no reference to fungi ..main ingredient says didecildimetilamonium ..


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409135 - 01/12/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You don't need to be spraying your fungi with any chemicals.

If you are getting contams, you need to work on your sterile technique while working with sterile media, like agar, LC, and grains.


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19409171 - 01/12/14 04:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i know i know ...but just experimenting ..


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409173 - 01/12/14 04:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

also i plan to do exterior wood lover fruiting and need something to sterilize wood in bulk..


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409178 - 01/12/14 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Didecyldimethylammonium chloride is an antiseptic/disinfectant that is used in many biocidal applications. They cause disruption of intermolecular interactions and dissociation of lipid bilayers. They are broad spectrum bactericidal and fungicidal and can be used as disinfectant cleaner for linen, recommended for use in hospitals, hotels and industries. It is also used in gynaecology, surgery, ophthalmology, pediatrics, OT, and for the sterilization of surgical instruments, endoscopes and surface disinfection.


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409190 - 01/12/14 05:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so it seems like it kills fungi . what am i left with ? isopropilic alcohol ?


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409224 - 01/12/14 05:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

if you plan on doing woodlovers outdoors start on agar and go to grains and then to wood but only pasturize/sterilize the stuff you intend to colonize indoors, once it goes outdoors don't pasturize /sterilize anything it's a backward setting, fighting bacteria should not be done with chemicals just give it 10-15 minutes of direct sunlight a day and lots of fresh air, the only chemical thats needed the myc will produce on it's own


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #19409261 - 01/12/14 05:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Chlorine Bleach and Mold Clean Up
(Let's Set the Record Straight!)

The Myth.
A myth exists concerning the use and “effectiveness” of chlorine bleach (sodium hypochlorite) in the remediation of a mold problem. Mold remediation involves the removal and or clean up and restoration of mold contaminated building materials.

Opposing Views and Confusion.
Chlorine bleach, commonly referred to as laundry bleach, is generally perceived to be an “accepted and answer-all” biocide to abate mold in the remediation processes. Well-intentioned recommendations of health departments and other state and local agencies are perpetuating that belief. The Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) who once recommended using clorine bleach for mold abatement was the first federal agency to stop recommending the use of liquid bleach in mold remediation. Subsequently, The Environmental Protection Agency  wrote-out/edited their A Brief Guide to Mold, Moisture and Your Home (EPA 402-k-02-003) to exclude their once recommended use of  bleach as a mold clean-up agent.

Does Bleach Really Kill Mold?
Will chlorine bleach kill mold or not—yes or no? The answer is yes, but with a caveat. That answer comes from The Clorox Company, Oakland CA, manufacturer and distributor of Ultra Clorox® Regular Bleach. The company’s correspondence to Spore°Tech Mold Investigations, LLC stated that their Tech Center studies supported by independent laboratories show that “…3/4 cup of Clorox liquid bleach per gallon of water will be effective on hard, non-porous surfaces against… Aspergillus niger and Trichophyton mentagrophytes (Athlete’s Foot Fungus)”. Whether or not chlorine bleach kills other molds and fungi, the company did not say. The “hard, non-porous surfaces” part of the sentence is a caveat. Mold remediation involves the need to disinfect wood and wood-based building materials, all of which are porous materials. Thus, chlorine bleach should not be used in mold remediation as confirmed by OSHA’s and EPA's updated recommendations and suggested guidelines. The use of bleach as a mold disinfectant is best left to kitchen and bathroom countertops, tubs and shower glass, etc.


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409266 - 01/12/14 05:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok . i ll do it in several ways . no sterilization , bleach and didecildimetilamonium ..just for experimenting and confirmation..


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409275 - 01/12/14 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok lets start over here, what is it that you intend to rescue? or are you using this for sterile work? i just don't get where your going with any of this lol


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: cronicr]
    #19409292 - 01/12/14 05:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Peroxide H2O2 works against bacteria and will only stall mycelium a bit (fungi have an enzyme to destroy peroxide)
Also kills spores, you can do some neat experimental TEKs with this stuff, but beyond that its much easier to just follow basic sterile procedure


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: cronicr]
    #19409300 - 01/12/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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cronicr said:
ok lets start over here, what is it that you intend to rescue? or are you using this for sterile work? i just don't get where your going with any of this lol




:whathesaid:

Please explain what your situation is- what you are growing and why you feel the need for chemicals to kill bacteria.


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19409439 - 01/12/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

growing woodlovers on cardboard and wood chips . so the concern for the cardboard and wood going unsterilized..


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409471 - 01/12/14 06:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no chemical is gonna help you, just start on cardboard and when it's ready add pasturized woodchips/sawdust and use that to spawn to more until it's time to put it outdoors


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: hongomagico]
    #19409706 - 01/12/14 07:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Didecyldimethylammonium chloride is an antiseptic/disinfectant that is used in many biocidal applications. They cause disruption of intermolecular interactions and dissociation of lipid bilayers. They are broad spectrum bactericidal and fungicidal and can be used as disinfectant cleaner for linen, recommended for use in hospitals, hotels and industries. It is also used in gynaecology, surgery, ophthalmology, pediatrics, OT, and for the sterilization of surgical instruments, endoscopes and surface disinfection.




Might as well just link to the page.... WIKI


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Re: safe chemicals for fungi and active against bacteria ? [Re: cronicr]
    #19409711 - 01/12/14 07:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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cronicr said:
no chemical is gonna help you, just start on cardboard and when it's ready add pasturized woodchips/sawdust and use that to spawn to more until it's time to put it outdoors




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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

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