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Do I still birth this cake or put in FC
#19408428 - 01/12/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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I have a cake ready to be birthed but I noticed a 2 or 3 inch shroom growing in the jar, and wanted to know if I should still submerge it for 24 hours as usual or just put it in the fruiting chamber?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19408445 - 01/12/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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I'd pick it, eat it, then dunk the cake.. (love the taste of fresh ones)
You going to dunk and roll?
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Edited by Matty_Rulez (01/12/14 01:49 PM)
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: Matty_Rulez]
#19408725 - 01/12/14 03:02 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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I'm gonna birth them but need to know if I leave the mushroom or leave as there is two othe pins now formed
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19408734 - 01/12/14 03:04 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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pins are fine to dunk
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: Matty_Rulez]
#19408735 - 01/12/14 03:04 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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I'm gonna birth them but need to know if I leave the mushroom or leave as there is two othe pins now formed? What about the big pin it's about 4 inches long?
Edited by pass the pipe (01/12/14 03:06 PM)
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19408742 - 01/12/14 03:06 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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i'll wait with you
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: cronicr]
#19411369 - 01/13/14 06:22 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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I have to still go buy a bag of perlite tomorrow, do I birth it as is with the two or three pins and the long shroom in it? Or do I just fruit it as is when I get the perlite?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19411396 - 01/13/14 06:45 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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you should dunk and roll now. that big pin will prob fall off during handling. I wouldn't worry to much. get that sucker soaking and get some perlite. should have birthed when you first seen the pinheads...looks good man. you could do a 2 liter bottle with holes terrarium and some wet papertowel or cardboard. to get by. till you get your fc setup. gl...
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: bluecap]
#19411418 - 01/13/14 07:02 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Ok, what about the little shroom if it falls off do I dry it and store it for when I harvest or throw it away? Also to birth it has to be cold water correct?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19411457 - 01/13/14 07:21 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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the pin is good to eat...cold water is fine. I usually use lukewarm water myself. but I don't think it matters.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: bluecap]
#19411482 - 01/13/14 07:36 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Dunk & roll! If you are gental and can keep those pins on, they can become mamoth. They have for me. Cold water out of the tap. Just not hot water.
If they fall off, just dry them with a fan/desicant. Save for later.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: kratom_redmomd]
#19411518 - 01/13/14 07:55 AM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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cold shock is outdated. room temp is fine.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: spacechildo]
#19421175 - 01/15/14 03:46 AM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Alright, I got it in the fruiting chamber now for about 24 hours almost, when taking the cake out of the jar I bruised the big one obviously and it bled a little blue, but I dunked it in cold water for 24 hours still. Was this Ok? I moved it to the FC earlier and I went to mist it and the cake fell over some how, could any of this hinder or effect growth substantially? One last thing how much to mist and how many times to fan and do I mist the shrooms themselves or no?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19424381 - 01/15/14 07:16 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Anyone?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19424395 - 01/15/14 07:18 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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it will be fine just leave it alone now(poor little thing), mist until the surface glistens and follow up with a 30 second or so fan and repeat when the moisture evaporates and the surface starts to dry
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: cronicr]
#19427319 - 01/16/14 10:36 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Mist the cake or the shrooms themselves though?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19427343 - 01/16/14 10:40 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Both with a fine GENTLE mist. Then fan afterwards. ONLY MIST WHEN IT NEEDS IT.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: magickspore]
#19427374 - 01/16/14 10:48 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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I would chop that bruised one off and have a pre harvest taste test! Your cake will be fine tho, I have heard of people geting decent fruits with cakes that have split in two because of mishandeling/accidents.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: tripmob]
#19429931 - 01/16/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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Alright, so its fine if the shrooms growing get a little wet from spraying and is using a fan above the FC while open for about a min good or is fanning it by hand better? Also do they need darkness to grow? Because I have them under a coffee table getting some light all the time basically 24 hours from the lights in the house is this bad that they get no darkness really?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19429979 - 01/16/14 07:52 PM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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Misting fruits is fine and whatever works for the fan and yes they should get dark time, the do most of there expanding during the dark cycle
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: cronicr]
#19431064 - 01/16/14 11:14 PM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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How do I get them to be in the dark totally? Would a cardboard box work for 6 to 12 hours a day or something like that?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19431078 - 01/16/14 11:15 PM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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just shut your lights off
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: cronicr]
#19432215 - 01/17/14 08:33 AM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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Sorry, I didn't elaborate on that, I have in where my living room is and we always have the tv and a light or two on in the room. So what can I do for the darkness for them and whats the least amount of darkness you guys recommend?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19432444 - 01/17/14 09:52 AM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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whatever works it doesn't have to be pitch black, they grow in the moon light too
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: cronicr]
#19432619 - 01/17/14 10:43 AM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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Alright, one more time is it ok for the cakes and shrooms to get misted directly or no? Also Im on day 4 in the FC with the same three pins I birthed and dunked with and they got bigger but will I get any other pins in the first go, or will I have to wait for the 2nd flush?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19439318 - 01/18/14 07:02 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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I just harvested 2 out of the 3 pins that grew and left the last one to get a little bigger the two harvested though have a light bluish almost green to them on the edges of the cap the big one is easier to see, what is it? Are they still safe to dry and consume?


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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19440139 - 01/18/14 10:39 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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Anyone? I was going to eat them soon even if they are not totally dry but need to make sure they are safe but also is the indented part of the big shroom ok? I probably harvested that one a little late?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19440181 - 01/18/14 10:48 PM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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its safe lots of fruits grow like that. If you are planning on eating them right away why dry them at all. they are better fresh.
Edited by MudaFuka (01/18/14 10:50 PM)
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: MudaFuka]
#19441259 - 01/19/14 05:53 AM (10 years, 12 days ago) |
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I appreciate the reassurance but can you guys see what I was talking about especially on the big one pictured, the greenish hue near the edge of the ring of the cap? What is that? And can any of you see the pictures because they won't load for me.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19446599 - 01/20/14 08:29 AM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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When I harvest the last shroom on the cake, do I immediately dunk it again for about 12 to 24 hours in water to rehydrate it for a 2nd flush, or do I let it sit for a little while?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19460002 - 01/22/14 09:55 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I dunked the cake earlier and have it sitting in cold water for the next 24 hours, after the 24 hours do I just wash it off and throw it back in the fruiting chamber. Fan and mist as normal again like the first flush correct? Also how long after being put back in the FC will it take to see the first pins forming?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19460187 - 01/22/14 10:42 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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pass the pipe said: I dunked the cake earlier and have it sitting in cold water for the next 24 hours, after the 24 hours do I just wash it off and throw it back in the fruiting chamber. Fan and mist as normal again like the first flush correct? Also how long after being put back in the FC will it take to see the first pins forming?
After the dunk is done roll it in dry verm - then wait at least half an hour and then start misting the verm. Once the verm is moist put it in the FC. Could be anywhere from a day or two - a couple weeks to pin. Did you leave the cake in the jar consolidating? It'll usually just take longer to pin in ty FC if you don't let it consolidate for a week or so after it's fully colonized.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: vikingsc]
#19460750 - 01/23/14 02:12 AM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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I already harvested off the cake once and yes I let it sit a week after 100% colonization, I don't have anymore vermiculite I used it all when making my BRF cakes I have two the other one is still colonizing. Just curious, how long before to toss it if it doesn't produce any pins at all?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19461929 - 01/23/14 10:50 AM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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pass the pipe said: I already harvested off the cake once and yes I let it sit a week after 100% colonization, I don't have anymore vermiculite I used it all when making my BRF cakes I have two the other one is still colonizing. Just curious, how long before to toss it if it doesn't produce any pins at all?
oh, ya a cake can survive without the roll of the dunk n roll. Toss it if it turns green from trich, not before then. Otherwise just be patient.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: vikingsc]
#19462250 - 01/23/14 12:07 PM (10 years, 8 days ago) |
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So it could take 2 weeks or more to see pins?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19499086 - 01/30/14 10:27 PM (10 years, 14 hours ago) |
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Alright so I just checked this morning and noticed overnight I have about 15 pins I could count on the second flush of the one pictured, How much on average could I expect each shroom to weigh or even each flush?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19499101 - 01/30/14 10:31 PM (10 years, 14 hours ago) |
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That is impossible to answer. To all we know all those pins will abort...
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19499284 - 01/30/14 11:29 PM (10 years, 13 hours ago) |
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pass the pipe said: Alright so I just checked this morning and noticed overnight I have about 15 pins I could count on the second flush of the one pictured, How much on average could I expect each shroom to weigh or even each flush?
I'd expect about a pound dry per pin. You should have about 15 pounds dry. Perhaps significantly less than that though
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: vikingsc]
#19499375 - 01/31/14 12:00 AM (10 years, 13 hours ago) |
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That sounds bout right. 
Now time to get the fuck off
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19499383 - 01/31/14 12:03 AM (10 years, 13 hours ago) |
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Hahaha nobody can really tell you, but 15 pins should be at least 1 blast off to wonderland even if half of 'em aborted.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: vikingsc]
#19501702 - 01/31/14 02:49 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just asked for a estimate or the average overall that people usually get. Also will these packets of silica do for drying in a container? http://www.amazon.com/Dry-Packs-Cotton-Silica-Packet-Pack/dp/B0038N30OY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1391204484&sr=8-2&keywords=silica+gel
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19501859 - 01/31/14 03:28 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I understand but hell I would of loved to known that answer myself when I had my first grow going. There are so many different variables in play tho that no answer would work. Fuck I only pulled off an 8th of shrooms my first grow.
Those silica packets work too by the way, I use them. I get them from my job.
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: DannyDGAF]
#19503921 - 01/31/14 11:03 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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DannyDGAF said: I understand but hell I would of loved to known that answer myself when I had my first grow going. There are so many different variables in play tho that no answer would work. Fuck I only pulled off an 8th of shrooms my first grow.
Those silica packets work too by the way, I use them. I get them from my job.
Alright thanks that helps, even past attempts or successes work. I've just read you can get anywhere from about 3 to 8 grams off one flush per cake on average? What kind of mesh should I use to suspend the shrooms when drying in a tub and should the tub be totally air tight when drying and storing?
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Re: Do I still birth this cake or put in FC [Re: pass the pipe]
#19503981 - 01/31/14 11:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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expect more of the 2-4 g's per cake and maybe up to 10 total
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