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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: 1down5up]
    #19664180 - 03/07/14 04:22 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys!

Been a while I haven't posted... but I'm always lurking. :smile:  Nice to see you all progressing.  On my end, I'm only on the 7th transfer from spores.  Been taking my sweet time of it, truth is i've been busy with work and haven't really gotten around to transfering when I should be.

That being said, I've been using slices of clean MS plates along the way and I've been making a bunch of monotubs.

So far I have 3 of them showing signs of growth.  Here they are;



I'm not sure but they sure seem like they're missing something. Some of them have fuzzy feet, but with MS i've seen that before without it being a problem.

Also, first picture has a fucking plant growing in it.  Just fruited that one, I hope the germinated rye grain isn't sign that it wasn't sterilized properly.  Looks ready to go regardless. :smile:

Sorry for the lack of organization in my pictures, I promise I'll make a better job of it next time.  Just thought you guys would appreciate an update. :laugh:

Happy friday everyone! :smile:


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Gorlami]
    #19664187 - 03/07/14 04:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

you need more fae, loosen your top holes up a bit


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: cronicr]
    #19664203 - 03/07/14 04:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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you need more fae, loosen your top holes up a bit




They have hardly anything in them, looser and they'll fall out.  I moved my fan so that it's pointing in the general direction of my tubs now.

But I figured it was FAE. Thanks for confirming.

EDIT:  I'm using 52qt mono's with 1" holes.  You guys think that is enough?  Or is it just a question of having a fan blow air closer to them.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Gorlami]
    #19664209 - 03/07/14 04:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

it also looks very dry


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: cronicr]
    #19664218 - 03/07/14 04:34 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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it also looks very dry




Yeah. :frown:  I misted them yesterday (and just now) too.  I can't seem to get it right.

EDIT:  OK so I just went and checked all the holes, loosened them up a bit.  Tried to loosen the top ones without overdoing it.  Misted a bunch.  Turned my fan so that it's pointing to the right of my monotubs but not directly on them.  Hope this fixes the problems I have. :smile:  THanks for the help.

EDIT 2:  Post number 666 on this thread, booya!


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Gorlami]
    #19664621 - 03/07/14 06:34 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

if u have to mist it everyday to keep it moist on top of sub ur holes are too loose i would say.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19664629 - 03/07/14 06:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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if u have to mist it everyday to keep it moist on top of sub ur holes are too loose i would say.



While this may be true, the large amount of surface evaporation might be beneficial if he is willing to put in the extra effort. Surface evaporation is the number one pinning trigger!


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19664647 - 03/07/14 06:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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if u have to mist it everyday to keep it moist on top of sub ur holes are too loose i would say.



could be but he has fuzzy feet, normally with a well dialed mono you get a good balance of fae and temp differences which get you nice beads of moisture on the surface to keep your subs surface nice and moist


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: cronicr]
    #19664666 - 03/07/14 06:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

moist!


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19672937 - 03/09/14 06:55 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

whats going on with everyone for this thread?  i shouldn't really bump as i have no pics related to the thread to share, but i will say i will be making more transfers tomorrow.  will be 13th plate :frown:  chipping away at the sectors.

bodhi, ur creeper is the first victim for my new dog food agar recipe!

here is my KSSS bucket.  i will take clones from it and isolate from that as well as isolating from spores, for this thread.  if things keep going the way they are, i will end up with an iso from the clone before the spores :facepalm:







looks like I'm getting the short stubby KSSS fruits, and the regular cube looking fruits.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19673448 - 03/09/14 08:54 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:rockon:

I've got the 6 pp5 cups going with the cultures from the last pictures of agar plates. After they get to 100% I'll let them consolidate for 1-2 weeks then case them with the microwave soil casing


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19673582 - 03/09/14 09:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

ha.  i got a cup and a jar each of three cultures.  i just decided this very day to say fuck the cups and combine each cup and jar pair in its own mini bulk tub.  fucking cups.  save em for the pans.

meanwhile, said jars and cups are recovered nicely from their shake a few days ago.  one culture, number three, is very nearly there, the other two are a bit behind.  fucking cool to watch this comparison unfold.  thanks bodhisatta.
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and right now, i'm prepping grain for my first gourmets.  cloned king oysters on cardboard.  one more transfer outta paranoia and it's on.  muy delicioso.

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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #19675043 - 03/10/14 07:50 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

nice bodhi!!  excited to learn and hear about ur microwave experience!! and see ur creeper again (but as an iso).  I'm gonna transfer my creeper from dog food plate to grain before an iso.  hopefully get results as good as urs in the earlier thread of it!

and JJ also awesome too!  this thread was a great idea, i agree!!  (only downfall is i have used ALOT of plates...damn sectoring KSSS) 
never ate kings tho...my room mate (sous-chef at fancy shmancy down town restaurant) tells me they are delicious!  he suggested treated the stem like scallops if u slice it thick enough.  i gotta try them sometime!  I'm gettng bored of oysters..bleh.  grew too many and now i just add them to cheap (is there any other kind?) ramen to eat them before they "expire" as much as i can.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19684854 - 03/12/14 09:38 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Making this goofy casing layer for 3 creeper pp5's not associated with the cultures in this thread

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Load the casing and even the little puddle of dirty water into a microwaveable plastic container.
Place into the microwave with the container's lid off but also inside the microwave.

Microwave long enough to "boil" for up to 2 minutes, typically 9-11 minutes depending on the microwave and thickness of casing pile.
Leave the microwave off but closed for several minutes then place the lid on the container before removing it.

24-28 hours later repeat the microwave process again.
It's ready to use when cool!



the leaving the lid next to the container in the microwave step makes me wonder. This is by far the most useless way to make a casing layer I have ever tried though, hope it works well.


Every time I microwave the casing I have to clean the microwave BTW, The lid being off means the casing layer boils(like it should according to the TEK) this makes steam(duh) and that gets all over the microwave and then it drips and when I open the microwave a puddle comes out and I have to wipe everything down. :thumbup:


Also here's the link to my Turkey Tail thread over in GMM T.Versicolor


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19686781 - 03/12/14 05:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

My creeper master jar is a couple days from g2g!


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19690992 - 03/13/14 02:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Making this goofy casing layer for 3 creeper pp5's not associated with the cultures in this thread
This is by far the most useless way to make a casing layer I have ever tried though, hope it works well.



Goofy?
Useless?
WTF?  NO U

How is it USELESS? That's stupid.

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the leaving the lid next to the container in the microwave step makes me wonder.

Every time I microwave the casing I have to clean the microwave BTW, The lid being off means the casing layer boils(like it should according to the TEK) this makes steam(duh) and that gets all over the microwave and then it drips and when I open the microwave a puddle comes out and I have to wipe everything down. :thumbup:




Mine used to not boil so much and take longer to microwave.  I may have had a shitty nuke.  Now I microwave for less time than I used to, and I have to leave the lid "on" - sitting on top, but not threaded, rather with quite a large gap for steam to escape.  My microwave doesn't get messy and it still allows the excess moisture to boil off.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Violet]
    #19691048 - 03/13/14 02:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Compared to loading casing in a few jars and sterilizing or pasteurizing  vs waiting 2 days with 2 microwave treatments for few small containers. Id say it's a pretty fucking backwards way of going about sourcing yourself a casing layer. :shrug:

Also Ziplock and Target brand PP5 containers have been slightly changing shape from microwave and PC use to the point at which some of the lids have a hard time screwing back onto the cups. :shrug:

Bulk brick already fruiting, fruits faster over less flushes, PP5 cups still consolidating and receiving casing layers which now have to colonize, Saved a few minutes on the PC run though, bulk brick takes up the same space as 3 pp5's and produces way more than 3 pp5 cups even if they hit the high BE claim. Pretty much at every turn I'm like why did I bother trying these things :shrug:

pp5
using oil based plastic vs using renewable sand based glass
Using RGS which is havok to the environment(field burning) compared to rye berries
Using RGS as spawn in quart jars sucks, don't believe me try it yourself, RR's RGS prep makes the RGS turn out better than either of the hydration methods in the violet writeup.

Maybe bulk is just for us poo slinging tards since it's easy enough to get right the first time. I find it hard to believe I could get any better at filling up and sterilizing pp5 cups with practice though.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19691198 - 03/13/14 03:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Since your day 1 you have been the most arrogant and flippant person I've ever seen on these forums.

And not even seasoned enough to have earned it.

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Compared to loading casing in a few jars and sterilizing or pasteurizing  vs waiting 2 days with 2 microwave treatments for few small containers. Id say it's a pretty fucking backwards way of going about sourcing yourself a casing layer. :shrug:



Sterilizing, 45-100 minutes at pressure (depending on containment)
Pasteurizing, 80-140 minutes in heat AFTER fully rising to proper tempts (plus the excess water & energy it requires)

Microwaving, 5-8 minutes each time, in the most energy-efficient treatment method there is.

It's extremely low-hassle.  If you consider waiting a day a hassle, then mycology isn't for you.
We usually know ahead of time when we need casing layer anyway, and we usually have to wait before applying it anyway.

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Also Ziplock and Target brand PP5 containers have been slightly changing shape from microwave and PC use to the point at which some of the lids have a hard time screwing back onto the cups. :shrug:



This tells me you're doing something wrong.
By now I must have dozens of Ziploc containers that have survived over 80 runs in the cooker, or microwave, or dishwasher, total.
The only ones I've ever lost have been due to improper cooker runs (too hi heat combined with failing to refill water)
and I've never lost any due to reduced whality.


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Bulk brick already fruiting, fruits faster over less flushes, PP5 cups still consolidating and receiving casing layers which now have to colonize, Saved a few minutes on the PC run though, bulk brick takes up the same space as 3 pp5's and produces way more than 3 pp5 cups even if they hit the high BE claim. Pretty much at every turn I'm like why did I bother trying these things :shrug:



The spin never stops, does it?
I'm not going to confront every one of the many facets of selective perception here.
But I will say, that the bulk brick may take the space of 3 containers but requires triple the energy and work plus extra materials, that it saves more than a "few minutes" in the cooker,
and mainly that you must have given the bulks an edge in speed because I don't believe your bulk blocks are fruiting despite the break-up and colonization stages that the containers don't have.


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pp5 using oil based plastic vs using renewable sand based glass



High-energy processed glass, breakable/dangerous, fewer uses, even mycologically

Quote:

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Using RGS which is havok to the environment(field burning) compared to rye berries



Now THAT is some shit.
How do you think it's that different cultivating grass than tall grains grass?
The difference is far slimmer than you seem to mistakenly believe.
But, nothing new there...



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Using RGS as spawn in quart jars sucks, don't believe me try it yourself,
RR's RGS prep makes the RGS turn out better than either of the hydration methods in the violet writeup.



I have tried it myself, and it doesn't suck. I love it.
Maybe you just suck at it still? That wouldn't be a surprise.  You're new, and haven't yet figured out how easy it is to "flash hydrate" GS like I do it


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Maybe bulk is just for us poo slinging tards since it's easy enough to get right the first time. I find it hard to believe I could get any better at filling up and sterilizing pp5 cups with practice though.



Oh trust me, you have LOTS of room for improvement.

"Poo slinging tards"? WTF?  You're such an inflammatory child.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19691209 - 03/13/14 03:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Compared to loading casing in a few jars and sterilizing or pasteurizing  vs waiting 2 days with 2 microwave treatments for few small containers. Id say it's a pretty fucking backwards way of going about sourcing yourself a casing layer. :shrug:



Sterilizing, 45-100 minutes at pressure (depending on containment)
Pasteurizing, 80-140 minutes in heat AFTER fully rising to proper tempts (plus the excess water & energy it requires)

Microwaving, 5-8 minutes each time, in the most energy-efficient treatment method there is.

It's extremely low-hassle.  If you consider waiting a day a hassle, then mycology isn't for you.
We usually know ahead of time when we need casing layer anyway, and we usually have to wait before applying it anyway.


Maybe someone can figure out a hydration level and microwave length where 1 microwave session would be assured to work.  But I've experienced how 24hr periods seem to help a lot in handling bio-active grow mediums and have nailed this casing preparation perfectly, so I won't bother.

Quote:

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Also Ziplock and Target brand PP5 containers have been slightly changing shape from microwave and PC use to the point at which some of the lids have a hard time screwing back onto the cups. :shrug:



This tells me you're doing something wrong.
By now I must have dozens of Ziploc containers that have survived over 80 runs in the cooker, or microwave, or dishwasher, total.
The only ones I've ever lost have been due to improper cooker runs (too hi heat combined with failing to refill water)
and I've never lost any due to reduced quality.


Quote:

bodhisatta said:
Bulk brick already fruiting, fruits faster over less flushes, PP5 cups still consolidating and receiving casing layers which now have to colonize, Saved a few minutes on the PC run though, bulk brick takes up the same space as 3 pp5's and produces way more than 3 pp5 cups even if they hit the high BE claim. Pretty much at every turn I'm like why did I bother trying these things :shrug:



The spin never stops, does it?
I'm not going to confront every one of the many facets of selective perception here.
But I will say, that the bulk brick may take the space of 3 containers but requires triple the energy and work plus extra materials, that it saves more than a "few minutes" in the cooker,
and mainly that you must have given the bulks an edge in speed because I don't believe that (given an equal start and equal success) your bulk blocks are fruiting first despite the break-up and colonization stages that the containers don't have.
The containers should have colonized at the same pace as the jars. So during the 5-14 days the bulk will have colonized, the containers should have been cased and that casing colonized, then introduced into fruiting around the same time.
If not, you didn't give the containers the proper treatment.


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pp5 using oil based plastic vs using renewable sand based glass



High-energy processed glass, breakable/dangerous, fewer uses, even mycologically

Quote:

bodhisatta said:
Using RGS which is havok to the environment(field burning) compared to rye berries



Now THAT is some shit.
How do you think it's that different cultivating grass than tall grains grass?
The difference is far slimmer than you seem to mistakenly believe.
But, nothing new there...



Quote:

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Using RGS as spawn in quart jars sucks, don't believe me try it yourself,
RR's RGS prep makes the RGS turn out better than either of the hydration methods in the violet writeup.



I have tried it myself, and it doesn't suck. I love it.
Maybe you just suck at it still? That wouldn't be a surprise.  You're new, and haven't yet figured out how easy it is to "flash hydrate" GS like I do it


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Maybe bulk is just for us poo slinging tards since it's easy enough to get right the first time. I find it hard to believe I could get any better at filling up and sterilizing pp5 cups with practice though.



Oh trust me, you have LOTS of room for improvement.

"Poo slinging tards"? WTF?  You're such an inflammatory child.\

Since your day 1 you have been the most arrogant and flippant person I've ever seen on these forums.

And not even seasoned enough to have earned it.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Violet]
    #19691232 - 03/13/14 03:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:
I'll just let other people read and see for themselves, I trust in peoples judgement and if they have poor judgement then :shrug:

All in all there's many ways to look at things, I'm giving my input and I know you don't like it since you can't do with any negativity towards this coveted container TEK. In America streets have names and blocks don't, In japan streets have no names and blocks do. Neither way of thinking about it is wrong. The argument never was about energy savings and cost savings for all of us making bulk is very cheap and the energy cost is minimal. Most people in the world have no access to washing machines, you're worried about saving some energy with pp5's yet the shear fact of using pp5's to grow is a slap in the face to being green. I'm guessing you don't use a laundry machine either or a hair dryer, or car etc... Almost None of us could care about the 40 cents savings on their energy bill. Most of us want something else even though you're selling us on BE and power and energy which is already easy enough for most people to see through. I'll let other people do what they want, they can see for themselves if it's what they want too.


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