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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
#19520136 - 02/04/14 12:10 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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im an ostrich-sheep that was born in the 80's in a kiddie pool full of mushrooms. later, i grew up in a plastic container, lightly unscrewed. i am still recovering from that traumatic childhood
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
#19520165 - 02/04/14 12:15 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: im an ostrich-sheep that was born in the 80's in a kiddie pool full of mushrooms. later, i grew up in a plastic container, lightly unscrewed. i am still recovering from that traumatic childhood
At least you didn't grow up on a shit farm only later to have to work underage in a bucket factory.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
#19520173 - 02/04/14 12:16 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
#19520196 - 02/04/14 12:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am...dunno about you guys
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: 1down5up]
#19520218 - 02/04/14 12:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well I guess you guys might want some pictures?
probably in a day or two. I did the transfers last night so no growth yet. I see recovery on the reishi bags I made though.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (02/04/14 12:29 PM)
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: newera]
#19520999 - 02/04/14 03:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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"so i got a whack of agar ready to pc to come and find my gasket was blown and i had just waisted the last of my agar, so i just tossed it all out and had one whole dish to try work with and not fuck up"
thrown away!! ive boiled mine in a pot itself and poured from the pot to petri in a SAB, no contams,,,, could have boiled it in a jar, in a pot.... PC isn't always necessary, it may make it a much easier and safer(from contams)task, but doesn't mean you cant do it without one!!!
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: supernewfie]
#19521231 - 02/04/14 04:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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glad u had luck! i have enough trouble pouring agar neatly and evenly (mainly evenly) in an SAB from a snapple bottle, can't imagine how hard it would be with a pot from the stove.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: supernewfie]
#19521269 - 02/04/14 04:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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supernewfie said: "so i got a whack of agar ready to pc to come and find my gasket was blown and i had just waisted the last of my agar, so i just tossed it all out and had one whole dish to try work with and not fuck up"
thrown away!! ive boiled mine in a pot itself and poured from the pot to petri in a SAB, no contams,,,, could have boiled it in a jar, in a pot.... PC isn't always necessary, it may make it a much easier and safer(from contams)task, but doesn't mean you cant do it without one!!!
my guess is you will see contams on those dishes in a week or less start to sprout up. Luck too is one thing, we don't operate on luck so yes a PC is still necessary. You can sterilize agar in your pouring flask/bottle without a PC but you want to steam sterilize it just like a PF jar for I would say 45M vs the 20-30 I would use in a PC.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
#19521280 - 02/04/14 04:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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i did the same thing, blew my gaskets out. just boiled my agar every few days till i got another gasket
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: cronicr]
#19521293 - 02/04/14 04:26 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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man, u turd farmers sure know how to blow a gasket!
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
#19521614 - 02/04/14 05:39 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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=D
ok let's talk odds for just a moment. i'm rapidly accumulating isolated strains, like over a dozen at this point, i think. and the ones that candidates which aren't yet isolated will likely multiply into even more. i've seen mr rabbit say a couple times we isolate and test _dozens_ of cultures until we find the real winner in all categories. so, what kind of odds are we lookin at here? clearly not good as blackjack, but are we talking craps, roulette, longshot the talking horse?
and another mindblow i felt this morning: seen it stated that isolating cultures from sectoring plates can actually yield lower performance than if the mishmash was put to grain. so... has anyone anywhere ever tried or even thought to try mixing jars of two or more isolates in the same bulk tub? is this just crazy talk? i know i am thinking too much, but there's so much time waiting, it's hard not to. i feel like dosing.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: J. Jack Flash]
#19521705 - 02/04/14 06:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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J. Jack Flash said: =D
ok let's talk odds for just a moment. i'm rapidly accumulating isolated strains, like over a dozen at this point, i think. and the ones that candidates which aren't yet isolated will likely multiply into even more. i've seen mr rabbit say a couple times we isolate and test _dozens_ of cultures until we find the real winner in all categories. so, what kind of odds are we lookin at here? clearly not good as blackjack, but are we talking craps, roulette, longshot the talking horse?
and another mindblow i felt this morning: seen it stated that isolating cultures from sectoring plates can actually yield lower performance than if the mishmash was put to grain. so... has anyone anywhere ever tried or even thought to try mixing jars of two or more isolates in the same bulk tub? is this just crazy talk? i know i am thinking too much, but there's so much time waiting, it's hard not to. i feel like dosing.
beats me, I want to know too
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
#19521919 - 02/04/14 07:09 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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what the odds thing or isolate cocktail thing? fuck me, the rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper. i'm getting the feeling i'm destined to meet max cohen's fate. fucking mush cult.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
#19522308 - 02/04/14 08:21 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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supernewfie said: "so i got a whack of agar ready to pc to come and find my gasket was blown and i had just waisted the last of my agar, so i just tossed it all out and had one whole dish to try work with and not fuck up"
thrown away!! ive boiled mine in a pot itself and poured from the pot to petri in a SAB, no contams,,,, could have boiled it in a jar, in a pot.... PC isn't always necessary, it may make it a much easier and safer(from contams)task, but doesn't mean you cant do it without one!!!
my guess is you will see contams on those dishes in a week or less start to sprout up. Luck too is one thing, we don't operate on luck so yes a PC is still necessary. You can sterilize agar in your pouring flask/bottle without a PC but you want to steam sterilize it just like a PF jar for I would say 45M vs the 20-30 I would use in a PC.
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bodhisatta said:
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supernewfie said: "so i got a whack of agar ready to pc to come and find my gasket was blown and i had just waisted the last of my agar, so i just tossed it all out and had one whole dish to try work with and not fuck up"
thrown away!! ive boiled mine in a pot itself and poured from the pot to petri in a SAB, no contams,,,, could have boiled it in a jar, in a pot.... PC isn't always necessary, it may make it a much easier and safer(from contams)task, but doesn't mean you cant do it without one!!!
my guess is you will see contams on those dishes in a week or less start to sprout up. Luck too is one thing, we don't operate on luck so yes a PC is still necessary. You can sterilize agar in your pouring flask/bottle without a PC but you want to steam sterilize it just like a PF jar for I would say 45M vs the 20-30 I would use in a PC.
False. Over A month after, theyre dried fully colonized and past their viability they never had any contams what so ever. I consider it to keep it more of a sterile environment, and try to keep as sterile as possible. Pc isnt necessary, you like to think that. And yes, to a previous post, it was pretty difficult pouring from pot to petri in the sab, and would have been better if I had used a jar containing to agar. I never and im just saying it didnt contam :s isnt worth throwing all the remaining agar you have left just because ya have no pc gaskit, especially if you really needed it.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: J. Jack Flash]
#19524129 - 02/05/14 08:22 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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J. Jack Flash said: =D
ok let's talk odds for just a moment. i'm rapidly accumulating isolated strains, like over a dozen at this point, i think. and the ones that candidates which aren't yet isolated will likely multiply into even more. i've seen mr rabbit say a couple times we isolate and test _dozens_ of cultures until we find the real winner in all categories. so, what kind of odds are we lookin at here? clearly not good as blackjack, but are we talking craps, roulette, longshot the talking horse?
and another mindblow i felt this morning: seen it stated that isolating cultures from sectoring plates can actually yield lower performance than if the mishmash was put to grain. so... has anyone anywhere ever tried or even thought to try mixing jars of two or more isolates in the same bulk tub? is this just crazy talk? i know i am thinking too much, but there's so much time waiting, it's hard not to. i feel like dosing.
i only have 3 isolates (working on more...), 2 done from clones and 1 from ms initially to agar. two from clones obviously do well, but so did the ms one. this is a really good question tho. not sure what the odds are. have u taken a look at PussyFarts "Tale of 10 isolates" grow? that was a really cool project. I'm not sure if he kept all ten, because some of them took too long to fruit and "Aint nobody got time for that" but I'm assuming u just see what each isolate does and choose ur favorite. maybe one isolate does take a while, but that wait is worth it b/c fruits are way more potent and thats what u want, or maybe another isolate fruits really fast with average potency, and u choose that one b/c u r after high yield quickly.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: supernewfie]
#19524139 - 02/05/14 08:25 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you don't have a PC gasket, then steam a jar of agar IE same jar or flask or W/E you would have PCed. Don't just boil the agar and pour it from the pan. Steam sterilize the agar jar instead. Just like using a PC without the pressure, just like for PF cakes.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (02/05/14 08:26 AM)
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
#19524246 - 02/05/14 08:55 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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well that is something we can agree on then, like I said using a jar would be better than just using a pot to pour, a poor setup when I used that, and I did it successfully without any contams. I was also just saying a PC isn't necessary, then you flamed me about that said its necessary and then says you can do it without one :S I clearly stated a JAR WOULD BE EASIER, and obviously cleaner, at the time that I boiled and poured straight from the pot well I didn't know much better than that, luck could have been a factor here but all in all not 1 of the petris I poured from the pot inside the SAB contamed.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: supernewfie]
#19524266 - 02/05/14 09:01 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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a PC is necessary if you don't want to play roulette, you're saying your luck is success, it's still just luck that happened to be success. We didn't come up with methods for no good reason. Sometimes methods are 90% lucky, most of us want 99.99% success, I don't want to chance less than even 10% of something I spend my time on. Also look up flaming, no one has flamed here. If we couldn't offer opinions in our forums this place would die. It's really just choosing to be more hurt/angry/sad over it than need be. Flaming is seeking an emotional response. I'm just trying to clear things up. If I were to have flamed I would have said along the lines of that's fucking stupid don't post mis-info gtfo and hang yourself.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
#19524310 - 02/05/14 09:11 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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luck MAY have played a factor, I said, which I honestly doubt it did. PC isn't necessary. the end, ill leave you to your thread, goodbye.
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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: supernewfie]
#19529854 - 02/06/14 10:28 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well there's not much to show on the dishes yet so to satisfy your hunger for some images
 I harvested the ones with veils popping from both of these two and got 198g wet.
All pretty short guys, Probably a mix of the genetics in this culture which was probably 4 dishes away from MS and untested. As well as the temperature being 60-65F most of the fruiting.
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (02/06/14 10:30 AM)
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