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Sockadin



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Re: Slow colonization [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19410162 - 01/12/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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If money isn't an issue, I personally Love Red Milo. I use it with a 6 hr soak, vs. popular opinion. 24 Hr soaks seem to cause to much grain expansion. 15 PSI @ 90 Minuets. Then Gtg, works great on both Gourmet, and cubes. I am not going to use anything else.
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36fuckin5
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Re: Slow colonization [Re: Sockadin]
#19410286 - 01/12/14 09:34 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Sockadin said: If money isn't an issue, I personally Love Red Milo. I use it with a 6 hr soak, vs. popular opinion. 24 Hr soaks seem to cause to much grain expansion. 15 PSI @ 90 Minuets. Then Gtg, works great on both Gourmet, and cubes. I am not going to use anything else.
What in the hell is too much grain expansion? They expand until they explode, and that's the only point that it's too much. You want it to hold as much water as humanly possible without exploding.
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NecroMyce
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Re: Slow colonization [Re: CMOS]
#19414236 - 01/13/14 08:20 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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CMOS said: Also, did you do a different batch of grain prep for these? Maybe the prep wasn't done correctly.
I think that could be the reason its slow. I had 3 other 1quart jars colonizing with it and they never germinated. Where as this one did right away and trailed along slowly.
When you say its got a higher contam rate does that mean if i dont get a contam im good? just a higher rate?
and by it not being worth it, does that involve magic levels, or pin sizes/both?
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cronicr



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Re: Slow colonization [Re: NecroMyce]
#19415055 - 01/13/14 11:04 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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it's a real possibility that it was yourprep, starchy grains will colonize slower, and contam rates only matter when they contam and by not being worth it it's just to say were always looking for the fastest colonizers for anything from agar to grain masters to bulk subs to pins that pin first
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NecroMyce
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Re: Slow colonization [Re: cronicr]
#19415185 - 01/13/14 11:37 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Well i can always spawn other bags as well. But in the end if i get a usual sized yield and they are still nice and magic. I wouldn't mind waiting the time, im gonna try to have 2 tubs going at a time or atleasts a good rotation of tubs to make the most of my time. would it still get a usual sized yeild + the magic levels?
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cronicr



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Re: Slow colonization [Re: NecroMyce]
#19415190 - 01/13/14 11:38 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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yep you sure will
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NecroMyce
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Re: Slow colonization [Re: cronicr]
#19415202 - 01/13/14 11:43 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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So basically what yall have been saying is its not worth the wait only...
lazy people hahah.
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cronicr



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Re: Slow colonization [Re: NecroMyce]
#19415213 - 01/13/14 11:45 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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CaspuuuR said: So basically what yall have been saying is its not worth the wait only...
lazyEFFICIENT people hahah.
remember it's a race against time and contams
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NecroMyce
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Re: Slow colonization [Re: cronicr]
#19415229 - 01/13/14 11:50 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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I know I know. Im just saying in the end i try to make every use of everything.
But i guess it also makes sense to cut my loses now and toss 1quart of rye and instead of spawning it to 6-7 and then losing those. Let alone getting to my casing/tub and then getting a contam and wasting all that since it took so long to colonize?
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cronicr



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Re: Slow colonization [Re: NecroMyce]
#19415236 - 01/13/14 11:54 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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oh i'm not saying you can't use it just something to think about down the road when you have more jars to consider that you want the fastest you got, if your grain prep comes out better who knows it may take right off but at least ya know the risks so the choice is yours
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