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Your level of DA
    #19407357 - 01/12/14 08:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Assuming you believe DA exists.

I think your personal levels or experiences of DA are mostly set by your early childhood experiences, as in did you feel secure in your family, were you nurtured well and anxieties placated. 

In other words if you were abused or neglected your DA will be higher due to the fact that the world will seem much more threatening.

What say you?


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407362 - 01/12/14 08:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Your.


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19407387 - 01/12/14 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I just noticed that coming back to it. :blush::facepalm:


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407388 - 01/12/14 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

perhaps anxiety in general. i personally had an ideal childhood & parents & i experienced fear of death specifically at a pretty young age (say 11) staying up late at night wondering what those final moments would be like and that they would happen to me.. i certainly thought about it then much more than now


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: quinn]
    #19407400 - 01/12/14 08:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i remember being very sad about adolescence and that in a year i would be physically and prob mentally unrecognizable from myself.. strange time in anyone's life really


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: quinn]
    #19407402 - 01/12/14 08:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So then would you say you have a lot of DA or a moderate or small amount?


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407410 - 01/12/14 08:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

DA?!


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: Mr.Sir]
    #19407412 - 01/12/14 08:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Death Anxiety.


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407419 - 01/12/14 09:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ahh, I see... Nah then - I've had a good run  :tardpig:


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407420 - 01/12/14 09:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

presently? i would say i can't see clearly enough to regularly feel death anxiety but i do experience above average social anxiety :shrug2:


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: quinn]
    #19407431 - 01/12/14 09:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

None.


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: quinn]
    #19407435 - 01/12/14 09:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i guess i'll lock in moderate


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: Mr.Sir]
    #19407436 - 01/12/14 09:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Mr.Sir said:
DA?!




I'm the DA.  I'm the one prosecuting your case.

Ouch.


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Re: Your level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407439 - 01/12/14 09:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

In other words if you were abused or neglected your DA will be higher due to the fact that the world will seem much more threatening.



I get what you mean, and that is a real possibility. But i wonder is it also not possible that negative experiences in childhood could actually lower your anxiety about death? Suppose experience in childhood shapes you to be anxious and depressed. Doesn't death seem more welcoming from such a perspective? Don't happy people have more to lose?


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: quinn]
    #19407445 - 01/12/14 09:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My experiences with mushrooms have given me a new perspectve on death. I don't have the fears i used to.


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407448 - 01/12/14 09:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so do you have a new angle on this?
I thought we had wrung the life out of this substantially unsupported theorem.

On the one hand, you have personal association to emotional history with (pleasure and) pain that will drive decisions.

On the other hand, you do have flight or fight, which is an adrenaline type of reflex to perceived bodily painful encounters or threats.

FoF applies to virtually all vertebrates and some invertebrates:
99.9% of those species exhibiting the FoF reaction seem to have no conceptual death reference.

simple minds go like this - let me translate:
"eat eat eat.... run away! run away!"


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19407472 - 01/12/14 09:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
so do you have a new angle on this?
I thought we had wrung the life out of this substantially unsupported theorem.

On the one hand, you have personal association to emotional history with (pleasure and) pain that will drive decisions.

On the other hand, you do have flight or fight, which is an adrenaline type of reflex to perceived bodily painful encounters or threats.

FoF applies to virtually all vertebrates and some invertebrates:
99.9% of those species exhibiting the FoF reaction seem to have no conceptual death reference.

simple minds go like this - let me translate:
"eat eat eat.... run away! run away!"




I would bet you are overweight.


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Re: Your level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407486 - 01/12/14 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think it is the opposite.. if you are neglected as a child, you are then stronger as an adult alone .. so the state of conscious so being free reference is less anxious about everything ... more used to be alone in life

that is how you would rarely see poor people being anxious ... anxiety seem to be a trait of comfortable backgrounds of being

anxiety disorders are mostly due to opposites forces of what you are relatively .. when what is opposite is objectively stronger then the relative cant be, so conscious perspective of that sense... starts shaking.. I am inventing that image which look logical


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Re: Your level of DA [Re: Icelander]
    #19407507 - 01/12/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have some DA, although I am on much better terms with death these days than I was in the past.  More accepting, less worried.  I had absolutely no abnormalities or abuse in my childhood.

I think it should be pointed out, and RGV touched on it, that the fear of death is actually not a natural phenomenon.  I.e., it is not human nature per se.  Many documented cultures throughout human history (and prehistory) have regarded death with very positive feelings.  For example, ancient Romans and later Japanese Samurai regarded death as a noble act and suicide was very highly regarded and practiced without a touch of shame.

It's a more relative phenomenon.  I'm sure if an Australian aborigine were to read this thread he would give an answer we would find unique.


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Re: You're level of DA [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #19407555 - 01/12/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

LunarEclipse said:
Quote:

redgreenvines said:
so do you have a new angle on this?
I thought we had wrung the life out of this substantially unsupported theorem.

On the one hand, you have personal association to emotional history with (pleasure and) pain that will drive decisions.

On the other hand, you do have flight or fight, which is an adrenaline type of reflex to perceived bodily painful encounters or threats.

FoF applies to virtually all vertebrates and some invertebrates:
99.9% of those species exhibiting the FoF reaction seem to have no conceptual death reference.

simple minds go like this - let me translate:
"eat eat eat.... run away! run away!"




I would bet you are overweight.




these are the thoughts of cows
mine have a bit more range:
"money money money, drugs drugs drugs, sex, sex, sex, art art art, books, movies, computers run away, run away"


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