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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: koods]
    #19405675 - 01/11/14 08:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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No, I think he's saying that nobody can be aware of every detail of what they consume. That's why we have experts in food safety, just as we have electricians to wire a house or pilots to fly planes. The electrician isn't going to let you use telephone wire to electrify your house and the pilot isn't going to let you get off wherever you want. Why can't a food expert tell you what you can't eat?





I can choose not to use an electrician and choose not to fly, if I wanted I
could hire a food expert to tell me what I shouldnt eat or I could choose not
to, we already have these experts telling us what isnt healthy and
legislation that requires labeling of food products, why do I need more laws
that restrict what I can do, why do I need the self righteous people
demanding these laws be passed?


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
    #19405703 - 01/11/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
I'll admit it, I'm not intelligent to decide everything by myself.

When I go to the grocery store I would like to know that what they have on their shelves has past a constantly harsher health inspection




so your country doesnt do health inspections on producers of food? mine does
but it's my obligation to myself to educate myself on what I'm consuming

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When I go to the hardware store, I enjoy that there are standards the chainsaws has to meet.




those standards are set by the company and the consumer, not the government

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I appreciate that cheap cars from china are not allowed because they don't pass safety inspections.





http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/business/in-a-first-chinese-built-cars-arrive-in-north-america.html?_r=0

http://www.forbes.com/sites/louannhammond/2012/01/31/how-the-chinese-will-conquer-the-u-s-auto-industrypost/

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I enjoy that something takes care of this for me. I don't have sufficient knowledge or time or resources to determine these things. Its better I pay someone to do it for me





so you choose to remain ignorant and because you're ignorant you feel that
laws must be passed to protect you, I feel we need laws to protect us from
people to ignorant to take care of themselves, the laws of natural
selection were a great start, unfortunately the ignorant people  managed to
get laws passed that protected them from themselves


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19405728 - 01/11/14 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
I'll admit it, I'm not intelligent to decide everything by myself.

When I go to the grocery store I would like to know that what they have on their shelves has past a constantly harsher health inspection




so your country doesnt do health inspections on producers of food? mine does
but it's my obligation to myself to educate myself on what I'm consuming

Quote:

When I go to the hardware store, I enjoy that there are standards the chainsaws has to meet.




those standards are set by the company and the consumer, not the government

Quote:

I appreciate that cheap cars from china are not allowed because they don't pass safety inspections.





http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/business/in-a-first-chinese-built-cars-arrive-in-north-america.html?_r=0

http://www.forbes.com/sites/louannhammond/2012/01/31/how-the-chinese-will-conquer-the-u-s-auto-industrypost/

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I enjoy that something takes care of this for me. I don't have sufficient knowledge or time or resources to determine these things. Its better I pay someone to do it for me





so you choose to remain ignorant and because you're ignorant you feel that
laws must be passed to protect you, I feel we need laws to protect us from
people to ignorant to take care of themselves, the laws of natural
selection were a great start, unfortunately the ignorant people  managed to
get laws passed that protected them from themselves




Well, we have reached an impasse.

Fork in the road.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
    #19405729 - 01/11/14 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

@Patlal - in the OP you were asking for solutions. Are you yourself overweight? Are you concerned for peers/friends/family members? Are you just asking as a theoretical curiosity as to what might work?

If we are to find any solution at all, we'd need to know who it is for and on what time scale, or what resources are available to apply them.

The solution might sometimes be as simple as a variation on the way people say grace (aimed not at religious ideals but at health ones) as practiced by some Asian communities described here. Seems to work for them. If concerned for self or family, it might be a matter of changing eating and/or shopping habits. The eating part might include buying smaller plates, chopsticks, or serving as a Swedish buffet, as opposed to having all the food in the center of the table, making it very tempting for people to go for seconds.

The shopping part might include shopping for food at a market instead of supermarket or changing supermarkets, which will force a new analysis of what foods are placed where, re-reading of ingredients list, etc.

I for one have found I eat much healthier when living alone, simply because I make my food choices when shopping, and I don't usually shop when hungry. The retard food remains on the shelves, doesn't get in my home. When living with others or visiting, there might be a large selection of junk food already in the fridge/kitchen, already opened and available, and invariably some of it gets tested or even a sweet tooth develops for it :shrug:

Context is very much a factor in how people behave, this applies to sports, eating, everything. I think that the current context clearly isn't working for people, hence the rise in obesity.

@Prisoner#1 - What exactly are your proposed solutions, if you have any? People ARE in practice obese. Might be quite amusing to go :haha: at them, I like poking fun at whales as much as the next guy, but it's not too effective in making them thin again. IMO the context they live in (one different from say, what we had in 1970) contributes largely to the rise in obesity. If not a change in policy and better foods on the shelves, then what do you think will bring obesity down? People magically becoming more interested in cardio?


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Spacerific] * 1
    #19405858 - 01/11/14 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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@Prisoner#1 - What exactly are your proposed solutions, if you have any? People ARE in practice obese. Might be quite amusing to go :haha: at them, I like poking fun at whales as much as the next guy, but it's not too effective in making them thin again. IMO the context they live in (one different from say, what we had in 1970) contributes largely to the rise in obesity. If not a change in policy and better foods on the shelves, then what do you think will bring obesity down? People magically becoming more interested in cardio?




let them get fatter and die if that's what they choose, that's my proposal


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19405921 - 01/11/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

my serious response:
Do what they are doing with cigarettes. Putting adverts at the beginning of every movie in Idia. Posters everywhere. etc. Bring it to people's attention. Being healthy is fun lol. I think that is the main missing point here. I always used to ask myself before quitting a drug, or being healthy, or meditating daily "damn that seems pretty boring". but being healthy is fun!

Also, my unserious answer;
Force-feed 4 grams of kratm down everyone's throat everymorning and force them to get a killer workout in until the are in shape. Meanwhile do a crash course in nutrition


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19405944 - 01/11/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok but surely you must have some sense that people are equally lazy and ignorant as they have always been throughout history, yet only very recently has obesity become a real problem.

Even if the fatties die off now, more will come about later, as new kids grow up. There's a context that's prone to obesity, probably more so in the US than most other countries. You think that's a good idea? Furthermore you think it's a good idea to let it become more obesity-prone than it is now?


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Spacerific]
    #19405967 - 01/11/14 09:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Spacerific said:
Ok but surely you must have some sense that people are equally lazy and ignorant as they have always been throughout history, yet only very recently has obesity become a real problem.





why is obesity a problem? because government, media and other busybodies
are telling you it's a problem. if you're obese then that problem is yours,
it's not mine, your weight doesnt affect my life in the slightest, neither
would you having a same sex marriage, an abortion or anything else

why exactly is someone elses obesity a problem for any of us? cant stand to
look at them? then dont look. but dont make me or anyone else take up someone
elses shit because you have a problem with a 3rd parties weight, if you have
an issue with it, help them yourself


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19406095 - 01/11/14 10:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I can choose not to use an electrician and choose not to fly, if I wanted I
could hire a food expert to tell me what I shouldnt eat or I could choose not
to, we already have these experts telling us what isnt healthy and
legislation that requires labeling of food products, why do I need more laws
that restrict what I can do, why do I need the self righteous people
demanding these laws be passed?




You can choose not to buy your food. Are you not self sufficient enough to take care of your own dietary requirements? :cookiemonster:


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19406280 - 01/11/14 11:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Crystal G said:
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koods said:
As long as these these barn animals can get a TV show for nothing more than being disgusting and obnoxious, it's just going to get worse. It's like America needs the awful extremes to be entertained.



Pris, explain how marijuana prohibition is the democrats fault? If anything, our current situation re: drugs is on Nixon and Reagan's bitch wife.




I love Honey Boo Boo. She has the personality of a 400lb black woman, literally the funniest child of all time. Plus that show makes fun of that family for how slovenly and disgusting and fat they are.





her mother has a boyfriend, a stable relationship


just let that sink in for a minute




:lol:

Everytime I lose hope in finding a guy, and think that I'm going to be alone forever, I always try to remember Honey Boo Boo's mom.

Although to be honest if my choices were to be single or be with this guy, I think I'd rather be single. :flowstone:



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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19406288 - 01/11/14 11:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
I fucking pay taxes to the government to make sure they regulate food in my healthy interest because I don't have time to do it, nor do I have the chemistry knowledge. The government better deliver.





so you pay your government to restrict you freedoms




How is paying taxes to fund the FDA restricting your freedoms? They are ensuring shit like high levels of lead and arsenic and poisons aren't in your food.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Crystal G]
    #19406331 - 01/11/14 11:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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Crystal G said:
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koods said:
As long as these these barn animals can get a TV show for nothing more than being disgusting and obnoxious, it's just going to get worse. It's like America needs the awful extremes to be entertained.



Pris, explain how marijuana prohibition is the democrats fault? If anything, our current situation re: drugs is on Nixon and Reagan's bitch wife.




I love Honey Boo Boo. She has the personality of a 400lb black woman, literally the funniest child of all time. Plus that show makes fun of that family for how slovenly and disgusting and fat they are.





her mother has a boyfriend, a stable relationship


just let that sink in for a minute




:lol:

Everytime I lose hope in finding a guy, and think that I'm going to be alone forever, I always try to remember Honey Boo Boo's mom.

Although to be honest if my choices were to be single or be with this guy, I think I'd rather be single. :flowstone:







I'd be suicidal


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Crystal G]
    #19406334 - 01/11/14 11:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
I fucking pay taxes to the government to make sure they regulate food in my healthy interest because I don't have time to do it, nor do I have the chemistry knowledge. The government better deliver.





so you pay your government to restrict you freedoms




How is paying taxes to fund the FDA restricting your freedoms? They are ensuring shit like high levels of lead and arsenic and poisons aren't in your food.





he's not paying the FDA and the FDA doesnt ensure that it's not in the
food, only that it's labeled as being in the food


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: koods]
    #19406345 - 01/11/14 11:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

I can choose not to use an electrician and choose not to fly, if I wanted I
could hire a food expert to tell me what I shouldnt eat or I could choose not
to, we already have these experts telling us what isnt healthy and
legislation that requires labeling of food products, why do I need more laws
that restrict what I can do, why do I need the self righteous people
demanding these laws be passed?




You can choose not to buy your food. Are you not self sufficient enough to take care of your own dietary requirements? :cookiemonster:





cows, pigs, chickens, eggs and veggies... so yes.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Crystal G]
    #19406348 - 01/11/14 11:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

did you know that mexico is now considered fatter than us on average. I just thought i'd throw that out there, least we aren't known as the fattest fucks anymore lol  :thatsinteresting:


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Jvells]
    #19406354 - 01/11/14 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Jvells said:
did you know that mexico is now considered fatter than us on average. I just thought i'd throw that out there, least we aren't known as the fattest fucks anymore lol  :thatsinteresting:





england and australia also passed us, canada is right behind us and going to take the lead

clearly obesity is an american problem though


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19406387 - 01/12/14 12:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:orly:


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Jvells]
    #19406400 - 01/12/14 12:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

wheres that gif im looking for....ahh here it is  :loveintheair:


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: koods]
    #19406652 - 01/12/14 02:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Too late. Judged.
Fat fuckin' bitch.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19406743 - 01/12/14 03:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Crystal G said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
I fucking pay taxes to the government to make sure they regulate food in my healthy interest because I don't have time to do it, nor do I have the chemistry knowledge. The government better deliver.





so you pay your government to restrict you freedoms




How is paying taxes to fund the FDA restricting your freedoms? They are ensuring shit like high levels of lead and arsenic and poisons aren't in your food.





he's not paying the FDA and the FDA doesnt ensure that it's not in the
food, only that it's labeled as being in the food




That's not true. The FDA also does periodic testing to ensure quality and sanitization of food. The entire reason it was exposed that Chinese brands of soy-milk and baby formula were cutting their products with melamine, was because of testing from the FDA.

Part of your taxes go to the FDA. Funding agencies that ensure food quality and prescription drug safety definitely does not "restrict your freedoms."


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