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why do people talk down to children? * 1
    #19405723 - 01/11/14 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It always struck me as odd, even when I was a child. When talking to little kids, people seem to have this tendency to talk in like a "little kid voice". But 1. children are living, conscious beings and 2. whether or not you talk in a dumbed down tone to them wouldn't change their ability to comprehend what you're saying

then it's not only children that get the "special treatment" but rather just like different social groups in general. people make these massive barriers of "self" and "other" instead of regarding all as inherently respectable human beings

i think it's best to talk to everybody like the humans that they are, instead of boxing them up into different categories of "certain types of people should be regarded in certain manners"

what do you think?


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #19405745 - 01/11/14 08:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think you're actually dead-nuts accurate here...


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: shLong]
    #19405767 - 01/11/14 08:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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shLong said:
I think you're actually dead-nuts accurate here...



Yeah, one of the few times I've never had to add anything to someone's opinion.

I hate it even more when my mom and sister talk to me grandpa like that. It's like shit he might be deaf but a baby tone aint gonna fuckin help.


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19405769 - 01/11/14 08:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Sheekle said:
1. children are living, conscious beings




:themoreyouknow:

no but rly i agree unless the kid is too young to talk then it kind of makes sense


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Bologna]
    #19405776 - 01/11/14 08:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bologna said:
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Sheekle said:
1. children are living, conscious beings




:themoreyouknow:

no but rly i agree unless the kid is too young to talk then it kind of makes sense



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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: shLong]
    #19405777 - 01/11/14 08:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i would feel dumb to talk to a kid in a ''kids voice''... thats why i dont do it and i dont understand why people do it
actually i find it annjoying, specially if people talk to really small kids who dont talk yet like..
the adult goes on and on with talking and kid doesnt even respond like wtf


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: King Klick]
    #19405782 - 01/11/14 08:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

thats a elephant tho


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Bologna]
    #19405787 - 01/11/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Bologna said:
thats a elephant tho



This has nothing to do with your elephant...


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19405790 - 01/11/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh don't get me started on this crap. Doo-doo daa-daa idiocy and the worst, most useless decorations on all the walls where kids are supposed to hang out. Like kids and infants were somehow too stupid to understand gradients, and need all the bears and bees and flowers around them to be as flat and lifeless as possible.

For that matter, parents seem to have some pretty unusual tendencies. Why is it not OK for kids to use profanity in their language, when in fact all adults do, thus human language includes profanity? What is it with kids and seeing nudity, that so disturbs parents? Not talking about sex or any weird crap like that, I'm talking about the panic that OMFG, naked guy on the street or TV, quick lil Jimmy, avert your eyes, for the love of God avert your innocent little eyes, lest your head explode :rolleyes:

If any parents are reading this, please explain this one to me. How and why is it necessary for all humans under the age of 14 to go through some forced profanity-free phase, before being allowed to use curse words, as we all inevitably do and as is normal?


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: shLong] * 1
    #19405804 - 01/11/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Very young kids understand tone sooner than they understand actual words I think, so there's perhaps a certain logic to exaggerating your tone a bit at that point. People take it too far though.


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: psi]
    #19405820 - 01/11/14 09:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i talk to children,like age 4 and up as i would with any other person really :shrug: lots of little kids are quite intelligent imo


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Spacerific]
    #19405822 - 01/11/14 09:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Spacerific said:
How and why is it necessary for all humans under the age of 14 to go through some forced profanity-free phase, before being allowed to use curse words, as we all inevitably do and as is normal?




Largely because even if you don't care if they swear, others will judge you on your parenting skills for things like that. Once your kids are in school it's a bigger issue. School staff deciding that your kid is a "problem" kid or that you are "bad" parents is a situation that potentially carries serious consequences.


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19405836 - 01/11/14 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Most adults view the "adult world" and the world of a child as almost different plains of existence. When a adult is talking to a child, they see dont see a equal, they see a child, who is Innocent and that they want to keep that way, they want to hold on to the notation that if they just treat them like a baby, when they were most Innocent that they will grow up and be as happy and joyful as they are now. They dont want to be the thing that introduces heartbreak, or terror into them, but sadly that will stunt growth of a child, trying to hide the inevitable will only damage them.

While I understand that its obvious that you should treat a child different, there is a differences between holding back something that may hurt them, and treating a fellow human with respect, thats what I think it all comes down to respect.


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #19405849 - 01/11/14 09:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm going to talk to my baby like Dr Kennys posts from the time hes out of the womb.


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #19405867 - 01/11/14 09:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:nojustno:

He/she will either gain the gift of purple prose or life crippling schizophrenia.

Both may or may not make him/her a social outcast :lol:


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: KT-BC]
    #19405869 - 01/11/14 09:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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KT-BC said:
i talk to children,like age 4 and up as i would with any other person really :shrug: lots of little kids are quite intelligent imo



Yeah I would put the cutoff at around there too, 3 or 4. My younger son is 2 and he understands quite a few words but the tone is a big part of it. Some of the time I talk to him in a somewhat exaggerated tone.


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: psi]
    #19406070 - 01/11/14 10:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

"Baby talk is more effective than regular speech in getting an infant's attention. Studies have shown that infants actually prefer to listen to this type of speech.[10 Some researchers, including Rima Shore,[11] believe that baby talk is an important part of the emotional bonding process between the parents and their child that help the infants learn the language. Other researchers from Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Wisconsin confirm that using basic “baby talk” helps babies pick up words faster than usual.[12] Infants actually pay more attention when parents use infant-directed language, which has a slower and more repetitive tone than used in regular conversation. This child-directed speech has also been shown in languages other than English.[13]"

Also, I think sometimes adults do it to kids older than babies in order to try to show them that they're friendly.  Little kids are often scared of adults that they aren't familiar with.  So a lot of times when people meet little kids, I think they talk in that sort of high pitched voice, not to "talk down to them", but just as a way of exaggerating their friendliness so that the kid isn't freaked out.


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Sheekle]
    #19406178 - 01/11/14 10:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Because they're short.


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19406197 - 01/11/14 10:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

But, srsly sheekle, did you notice that your thread title is slightly ironic? To me, it is almost subtly implying that children aren't people. Surely you meant "Why do adults talk down to children"?


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Re: why do people talk down to children? [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19406657 - 01/12/14 02:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Khii Khwaay said:
To me, it is almost subtly implying that children aren't people.




Quite frankly, they aren't people until they're old enough to be useful.
Fuck 'em. Not literally, that's disgusting.


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