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Depression Mushrooms and Death!
    #19404507 - 01/11/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I tried to think of the most appropriate thread title that would do good at grabbing your attention and getting you to look at this thread.  Did it work?  It must have because you are reading this.  Recently I have felt a morbid obsession with death.  I have spent a lot of time thinking about death, when mine is going to come, will I be ready for it, will I be able to accept it when it comes, what will happen after I die,  and all sorts of things like this.  I have been getting so obsessed with these type of thoughts and a lot of the times it leads me in to a kind of depression.  Yesterday I had an idea.  I think that I might be able to get through this morbid obsession and I might be able to deal with these strange feelings and fears if I were to go to a camp ground with just me and 5 grams of some good cubes.  In doing so I would be trying to experience my own death.  In experiencing my own death I would hope to gain a new perspective on things and to get a little bit of insight in to what is going on with this obsession.
Does this sound like a good idea?  It seems to me that doing this would be using mushrooms as a great tool.  I welcome your thoughts and opinions on this. 

Thank you,

Willy


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19404751 - 01/11/14 04:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have experienced what you are speaking of a few different times, it can be pretty scary. The first time i was pretty freaked, seemed to get easier to grasp the next time tho.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: ByTor]
    #19405067 - 01/11/14 06:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The fact that you are asking the question seems to me you should not do any of the sort you mention.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: qweqaz]
    #19405154 - 01/11/14 06:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I have experienced what you are speaking of a few different times, it can be pretty scary. The first time i was pretty freaked, seemed to get easier to grasp the next time tho.



What did you do to deal with it?
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The fact that you are asking the question seems to me you should not do any of the sort you mention.



What makes you say that?


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19405194 - 01/11/14 06:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its a real challenge to take on by doing a heavy trip having your mind occupied by you thinking about your own death.

To do such thing you should be confident that you can deal with it.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: qweqaz]
    #19405659 - 01/11/14 08:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I troubling thing I think we as a community can agree upon is that with a cognitive disorder, there is no telling what psychedelics can do to that person. I'm not implying that you have a cognitive disorder, but that if you feel like you have a high predisposition for a depressive disorder, you might want to re-evaluate your situation.

If you can identify the cause of your depression sanely, then you should figure out a way to remove the causation in your life, in this case, thinking about death is making you depressed, so you need to ask yourself what is making you think about death? Is there a way for you to not think about death? Is there a form of closure you need?

Who knows? Only you, and maybe taking 5g of cubes is just the thing, just remember to always follow the Erowid motto: know your mind, know your body, know your substance, know your source!


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: DirtyTomFlint]
    #19405746 - 01/11/14 08:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think about my own mortality, and my own death while I am tripping all the time. Thinking about it, or even meditating on it has never been scary, or depressing. Experiencing it has been terrifying though.

I think a 5g trip spent alone while meditating on death could be very theraputic, even if it was a frightening experience.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19406206 - 01/11/14 10:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Idk...for me, my first trip on shrooms was 5g.  I decided to take a large dose of shrooms because I was suffering from dibilatating panic attacks for over a year.  For me, the large dose was essential.  I did freak out at first, but then I was lifted above this world. The revelations I got while tripping pulled me out of a life of fear and depression.  I had an experienced traveler with me,  outher than that I was alone.  I would say that you should meditate on it, if you feel in your heart that you should take that journey.  Do it.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: tripmob]
    #19406384 - 01/12/14 12:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

its pure curiosity. death isnt morbid death is not even death or morbid as those are words. the experience in the now is everything concepts and language die death dies only reality without contrast.OP will find that for himself.you cant say IT. your mind wants to square a circle.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: qweqaz]
    #19406403 - 01/12/14 12:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldnt recommend you do it right now when you think about death... bad time!
you will get a bad trip likely
just take 3-4g mushroom chocolates when you have a good day...

work your way up / through your problems, that is how to heal

ask yourself, who am I?
am I my brain, these thoughts? who am I inside, who am I outside?


Edited by lessismore (01/12/14 12:21 AM)


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: lessismore]
    #19406483 - 01/12/14 12:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just trip balls man.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: happygolucky]
    #19406584 - 01/12/14 01:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, just give up the weird shit and get on with :trippnballs:

:peace:PS


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19407221 - 01/12/14 07:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would suggest some type of natural experience that gets your heart-rate and adrenaline up. Skydiving? Sport bike, rock climbing, whitewater kayaking?
Something well prepared and trained for that brings you to the edge naturally might just fill your "near death" supply and help you get back on-track.
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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: lessismore]
    #19407261 - 01/12/14 07:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I wouldnt recommend you do it right now when you think about death... bad time!
you will get a bad trip likely
just take 3-4g mushroom chocolates when you have a good day...

work your way up / through your problems, that is how to heal

ask yourself, who am I?
am I my brain, these thoughts? who am I inside, who am I outside?




He shouldn't avoid it just because he can have a bad trip. A bad trip can still help you sort through your problems. It's these problems that cause it to be a bad trip but when he goes through them and sorts them out it can turn into a good or even great trip.

OP, I think you have every reason to trip.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: Aopocetx]
    #19407344 - 01/12/14 08:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There is a lot of good stuff in this thread.  I started my reply by quoting the stuff that I was replying to but then the thread got way to long.  So I am just going to reply without the quotes.

I am no n00b when it comes to psychs.  I have on one occasion taken 32 hits of liquid LSD in one setting.  I have eaten about 7g of cubes in a night. I would say that both experiences were uncomfortable for me but I did get through them and I did learn from them. 

The cause of my depression is death.  It is only when I get stuck in this death loop that I begin to feel depressed.  I think the obsession with death is coming from a feeling of going nowhere in life.  I think it is from having no real direction and no real goals.  As far as knowing my source I think I'm pretty good lol.

As far as skydiving goes I have been there done that.  It was a great experience. 

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happygolucky said:
Just trip balls man.



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happygolucky said:
Just trip balls man.



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PrimalSoup said:
Yeah, just give up the weird shit and get on with :trippnballs:

:peace:PS



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mio said:
I wouldnt recommend you do it right now when you think about death... bad time!
you will get a bad trip likely
just take 3-4g mushroom chocolates when you have a good day...

work your way up / through your problems, that is how to heal

ask yourself, who am I?
am I my brain, these thoughts? who am I inside, who am I outside?




He shouldn't avoid it just because he can have a bad trip. A bad trip can still help you sort through your problems. It's these problems that cause it to be a bad trip but when he goes through them and sorts them out it can turn into a good or even great trip.

OP, I think you have every reason to trip.



:cheers:  I think I just needed encouragement.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19407382 - 01/12/14 08:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The cause of my depression is death.  It is only when I get stuck in this death loop that I begin to feel depressed.  I think the obsession with death is coming from a feeling of going nowhere in life.  I think it is from having no real direction and no real goals.  As far as knowing my source I think I'm pretty good lol.




I think you should embrace your obsession and use it to your advantage to start a new career. Make two birds dead with one stone. You could be a Gravedigger, Embalmer, Coroner, Funeral Director, Cremation Technician, and if you're really smart you could be a Forensic Pathologist.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: Universe]
    #19407556 - 01/12/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Everyone dies sometime bro, don't waste the little time you have worrying about what's gonna happen when you can't do anything about it. Spend it doing things while you can.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: teenagehippie]
    #19408189 - 01/12/14 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I would just trip personally.. but its OPs decision :wink:

mushrooms would cure my defective brain logic each time

would eat 4g chocolates, but not the same day I had destructive thoughts
would wait till another day
would trip a day when I didnt have many thoughts... thats the best days to trip IMO

friday after work/school or such... nothing you need to do after it, and 2 days to reassemble afterwards

the only thing to make sure with high doses is: turn off+hide phone, turn off facebook,lock doors, be alone
lock all doors
and psytrance to make sure the trip will be good (youtube)

some psytrance, 1hr+ perfect mixes for tripping:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18561673
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18386514

5min mushroom chocolate recipe to make sure the trip is good:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19168153


Edited by lessismore (01/12/14 12:47 PM)


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: lessismore]
    #19408498 - 01/12/14 02:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Too many psychonauts get too dark and start relating to death so much because of the death experienced while tripping. On one hand this is a good thing as it does teach us to become more accepting and less scared of death, something which people should not be afraid of. Unless people are faced with death at a time which they do not expect it, such as car crashes (like when I rolled over a 50' cliff). But relating to death too much and thinking about it too much consumes somebody with the thought of passing to a different realm.

You don't need to trip balls and think about death, you need to trip balls and start living again. Start enjoying life for what it's worth and keep that thought of death in the back of your mind, you're scaring yourself away from life.


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Re: Depression Mushrooms and Death! [Re: Willy Wonka]
    #19410169 - 01/12/14 09:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I personally think that's an amazing idea. Maybe a little more than 5 grams though, some people don't acheive ego death from a dose like that. I think what you're looking for would be easily acheivable from 7 grams. I hope you find what you are looking for. Good luck I'll send some good vibes your way.


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