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Drumdude27
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Huge dose on death bed
#19405240 - 01/11/14 06:43 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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I've heard that lsd can help you cope and accept death, and I always wondered what it'd be like to take a huge dose of it on your death bed. Do you guys believe that DMT is released upon death, and what you do think would happen at the point of death (and possible dmt release) if you were already deep in an lsd trip?
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405259 - 01/11/14 06:47 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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I'm not quite sure I could fathom what would happen if I took such a dose during that time, but given the chance I'd do a thumbprint a day before I go no question asked.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405262 - 01/11/14 06:48 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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If you are interested in such a thing, Aldous Huxley had his wife inject him with 100 micrograms just prior to his death.
I read something about it in a biography. He considered death to be kind of the final/ultimate trip. The one you can do exactly once in your life, and he didn't plan to miss it.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: John in WI]
#19405275 - 01/11/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Godfather1376 said: I'm not quite sure I could fathom what would happen if I took such a dose during that time, but given the chance I'd do a thumbprint a day before I go no question asked.
I have a feeling it'd start off really bad because you're focused on death, but could turn into a really amazing trip that prepares you on your way out..
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John in WI said: If you are interested in such a thing, Aldous Huxley had his wife inject him with 100 micrograms just prior to his death.
He considered death to be kind of the final/ultimate trip. The one you can do exactly once in your life, and he didn't plan to miss it.
This is exactly what I'm getting at. Thank you, will totally check this out. Does anyone plan on doing something similar, like a thumbprint the day before, as Godfather said?
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405306 - 01/11/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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I wouldn't say I "plan" on doing some thing like that. I read about Huxley's tale (forgive me, I'm going no memory) in a collection called "Moksha", as told (forgive me again--I could be wrong) by Tim Leary. Leary and Huxley were close, and lived next door to one another for a while. The essay was called "Mushrooms for Lunch".
I don't know what to say about guys like Huxley. I like to think of myself as being the real deal. But dropping acid on my death bed to gain a better appreciation of it? That's fucking hardcore! I mean, he was the genuine article, right up to the very last second of his life.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: John in WI]
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405360 - 01/11/14 07:14 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thank you so much for that blast from the past! I'll have to re-read it (it's been at least 20 years). From what I recall, his death was peaceful and lucid.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405381 - 01/11/14 07:18 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Don't thank me. Thank Google. Thank YOU for telling me about this. I'm only encouraged to follow in his footsteps now. Anyone know if Leary went out in a similar manner?
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405407 - 01/11/14 07:24 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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I think dmt is realsed upon death
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I like to think so. Unfortunately, its pretty much impossible to study this, given the circumstances. It would totally explain the "light" and the "afterlife" that people who come back from the edge talk about.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405444 - 01/11/14 07:34 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Drumdude27 said: Don't thank me. Thank Google. Thank YOU for telling me about this. I'm only encouraged to follow in his footsteps now. Anyone know if Leary went out in a similar manner?
I don't know how he died, but he and Gene Roddenberry were blasted into orbit together!
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Godfather1376 said: I'm not quite sure I could fathom what would happen if I took such a dose during that time, but given the chance I'd do a thumbprint a day before I go no question asked.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
#19405466 - 01/11/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Godfather1376 said: I'm not quite sure I could fathom what would happen if I took such a dose during that time, but given the chance I'd do a thumbprint a day before I go no question asked.

Seconded 
I just sort of assumed Leary of Mckenna went out in such a manner. I don't know much on them or Roddenberry, I'm pretty new to the scene haha.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405560 - 01/11/14 07:59 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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I used to think it would be cool but you can trip many times in your life, you can only experience your physical body dying and the transition from here to wherever our energy goes once. So now I want to experience the process of death without any drugs so I cac get the most out of it.
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I personally think it'd help me come to terms with my death. If I knew it was imminent, I wouldn't want to go out fighting just because of my stubborn ego hahah. But to each their own
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19405647 - 01/11/14 08:18 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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That's interesting to think about, however I feel like most psychonauts, when they reach that stage in their life, they pass with little fear of the beyond, but with acceptance.
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I honestly have no clue. Im partial to the idea that even the most experienced pyschonaughts can be "off their game" so to speak, and have a day experience. Regardless, I'm far from that stage, so as of now I still want to go out tripping
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Only once? how do you know this?
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Agentchewy]
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One time that you can remember, if we do get reincarnated we will have a different brain each time therefore it would be physically impossible to remember if you died before, according to normal science.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19406337 - 01/11/14 11:43 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Drumdude27 said: I've heard that lsd can help you cope and accept death, and I always wondered what it'd be like to take a huge dose of it on your death bed. Do you guys believe that DMT is released upon death, and what you do think would happen at the point of death (and possible dmt release) if you were already deep in an lsd trip?
just take a heroic dose of LSD before you die, then you wont need to when you die
you will be partying on your deathbed
I believe if you take enough LSD you will accept death
think timothy leary was celebrating his death online via webcam, I want my death to be like that, no need for sadness
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19407001 - 01/12/14 05:46 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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1slow2v said: I think dmt is realsed upon death
What makes you think that?
My theory: Death is such an uncomprehendable phenomenon to humans that DMT is released upon death to "sooth" one's mind and make them accept what's happening to them.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
#19407051 - 01/12/14 06:13 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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I think I'd like 100 mics, but I would try to prepare 10 units of 100 mics, just in case the dose caused a turn around, then the next few days I might need to redose and updose. it is possible that dosing on the deathbed can interrupt the dying process. why am I even thinking of that?
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
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My theory: Death is such an uncomprehendable phenomenon to humans that DMT is released upon death to "sooth" one's mind and make them accept what's happening to them.
That is a beautiful theory.
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Call me whatever you want but no I wouldn't. Honestly at that point I would do some heroin and smoke an l.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Aopocetx]
#19407268 - 01/12/14 08:01 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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I used to want to do it, but i feel like i might be cheating myself from a once in a lifetime experience
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If I did nice dose of L and listened to Beethoven's A minor quartet (Op. 132) on my deathbed I would be able to let go and dissipate into the void with nothing but peace and contentment in my soul, that's for damn sure. That would probably be the absolute best way to die.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: lessismore]
#19408147 - 01/12/14 12:27 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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Aopocetx said: Call me whatever you want but no I wouldn't. Honestly at that point I would do some heroin and smoke an l.
I think I'm with you on smoking the fat L, (or a couple) but I think I might consider taking LSD on my deathbed someday. No heroin for me. 
I think I would take somewhere between 100-200ug and smile as I let the experience wash over me. I think it might drastically ease the departure of the spiritual body from the physical body, but that is just my personal opinion.
It would be a very serene, bittersweet end. Getting ready to pass into the infinite beyond, while leaving the beautiful world of creation and human experience...
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As much as I wouldn't want my death streamed on the internet, I agree that death should be more of a happy realization that this temporary life has ended. I think there's a lot more to discover around the corner!
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
#19408875 - 01/12/14 03:39 PM (10 years, 18 days ago) |
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Godfather1376 said: I'm not quite sure I could fathom what would happen if I took such a dose during that time, but given the chance I'd do a thumbprint a day before I go no question asked.
I have a feeling it'd start off really bad because you're focused on death, but could turn into a really amazing trip that prepares you on your way out..
I would see it as a final teaching experience. All the moments of your life culminated into one moment before you go. It'd be a trip of ultimate sadness, acceptance, and happiness.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Aopocetx]
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My theory: Death is such an uncomprehendable phenomenon to humans that DMT is released upon death to "sooth" one's mind and make them accept what's happening to them.
That is a beautiful theory.
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Aopocetx said: Call me whatever you want but no I wouldn't. Honestly at that point I would do some heroin and smoke an l.
I have never tryed heroin so I can't say this with an unbiased opinion but would you really want your last action on this Earth, during this lifetime, to be falling into temptation..? It just seems like you would be failing yourself if you did that.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
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I have never tryed heroin so I can't say this with an unbiased opinion but would you really want your last action on this Earth, during this lifetime, to be falling into temptation..? It just seems like you would be failing yourself if you did that.
I don't see it that way. Falling into temptation is bad because it has negative consequences on your life but if you're about to die then screw it, might as well feel good. What do you have to prove by not doing it? I see where you're coming from though but I just don't feel the same way. Maybe I will later in life.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
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My theory: Death is such an uncomprehendable phenomenon to humans that DMT is released upon death to "sooth" one's mind and make them accept what's happening to them.
That is a beautiful theory.
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Aopocetx said: Call me whatever you want but no I wouldn't. Honestly at that point I would do some heroin and smoke an l.
I have never tryed heroin so I can't say this with an unbiased opinion but would you really want your last action on this Earth, during this lifetime, to be falling into temptation..? It just seems like you would be failing yourself if you did that.
Yeah, um wait, WTF? What does temptation have to do with it? Are you afraid the devil's going to roast your ass for trying heroin on your deathbed? You do know that most cancer patients spent the last few weeks doped up out of their minds on morphine and nobody seems to judge. The only argument I could see against it would be asking whether or not someone would wish to be present of mind their last few moments. Maybe not everybody does. 
I'm not sure which would be better, having a really strong acid trip or taking some heroin, although it seems like if you were that close to death the H would probably just stop your heart and wouldn't be that enjoyable. The L, since it's given me very peaceful moments of acceptance of death in the past, would hopefuly prep me for the journey. A nice strong roll on MDMA might also be a good way to go out, although it might give you too much of an attachment to reality.
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My theory: Death is such an uncomprehendable phenomenon to humans that DMT is released upon death to "sooth" one's mind and make them accept what's happening to them.
That is a beautiful theory.
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Aopocetx said: Call me whatever you want but no I wouldn't. Honestly at that point I would do some heroin and smoke an l.
I have never tryed heroin so I can't say this with an unbiased opinion but would you really want your last action on this Earth, during this lifetime, to be falling into temptation..? It just seems like you would be failing yourself if you did that.
Yeah, um wait, WTF? What does temptation have to do with it? Are you afraid the devil's going to roast your ass for trying heroin on your deathbed? You do know that most cancer patients spent the last few weeks doped up out of their minds on morphine and nobody seems to judge. The only argument I could see against it would be asking whether or not someone would wish to be present of mind their last few moments. Maybe not everybody does. 
I'm not sure which would be better, having a really strong acid trip or taking some heroin, although it seems like if you were that close to death the H would probably just stop your heart and wouldn't be that enjoyable. The L, since it's given me very peaceful moments of acceptance of death in the past, would hopefuly prep me for the journey. A nice strong roll on MDMA might also be a good way to go out, although it might give you too much of an attachment to reality.
That's not at all what I was saying about temptation... MDMA would most likely kill you if you were on your death bed. And Apoc is right, not everyone sees it the way that I do, it was a pretty illogical statement in that I shouldn't have projected my mind on you. Well, whatever, I for one would not take H on my death bed. I'm still up for the thumbprint though (although it would probably stop your heart as well).
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
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...what about mushrooms? 
I think that would be a really interesting transition.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
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My theory: Death is such an uncomprehendable phenomenon to humans that DMT is released upon death to "sooth" one's mind and make them accept what's happening to them.
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Aopocetx said: Call me whatever you want but no I wouldn't. Honestly at that point I would do some heroin and smoke an l.
I have never tryed heroin so I can't say this with an unbiased opinion but would you really want your last action on this Earth, during this lifetime, to be falling into temptation..? It just seems like you would be failing yourself if you did that.
Um, what kind of ridiculous moral code is that? What exactly do you have to lose by doing heroin when you're already about to die?
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My theory: Death is such an uncomprehendable phenomenon to humans that DMT is released upon death to "sooth" one's mind and make them accept what's happening to them.
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Aopocetx said: Call me whatever you want but no I wouldn't. Honestly at that point I would do some heroin and smoke an l.
I have never tryed heroin so I can't say this with an unbiased opinion but would you really want your last action on this Earth, during this lifetime, to be falling into temptation..? It just seems like you would be failing yourself if you did that.
Um, what kind of ridiculous moral code is that? What exactly do you have to lose by doing heroin when you're already about to die?
"Ridiculous"  I have my opinion, you have yours. Your's is no more valid than mine. Bye.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
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Okay, so explain to me exactly your opinion and why it's "falling into temptation" and why it's "failing yourself"?
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If I took heroin, IMO i'd be failing myself because I'd be creating artificial happiness for myself in the last moment of my life. I would not want to go out that way.
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
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I understand, it's a pride thing. Really it just comes down to different views. I don't think heroin is bad as a substance... it's an inert chemical, it can't be good or bad. The way people use it makes it bad (I'm in this category too, I'm not saying I'm not). However it's just a tool to be used in time of need. So on my deathbed, I would be using a tool to numb my pain.
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Webster10 said: If I took heroin, IMO i'd be failing myself because I'd be creating artificial happiness for myself in the last moment of my life. I would not want to go out that way.
Yeah but you can't really define artificial happiness without lying on extremely arbitrary concepts. All our happiness is chemical induced, and the desire to go out under one chemical induced brain state or another is going to vary from person to person
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Webster10 said: If I took heroin, IMO i'd be failing myself because I'd be creating artificial happiness for myself in the last moment of my life. I would not want to go out that way.
Yeah but you can't really define artificial happiness without lying on extremely arbitrary concepts. All our happiness is chemical induced, and the desire to go out under one chemical induced brain state or another is going to vary from person to person
The man's got a point. On the other hand, I think that Webster simply means he'd be dying in this weird state of almost forced happiness, because that's what that chemical does. Compared to say Shrooms or acid, which wouldn't put him into a happy state of mind. He'd do that on his own
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
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Drumdude27 said: The man's got a point. On the other hand, I think that Webster simply means he'd be dying in this weird state of almost forced happiness, because that's what that chemical does. Compared to say Shrooms or acid, which wouldn't put him into a happy state of mind. He'd do that on his own
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Drumdude27]
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Webster10 said: If I took heroin, If I took heroin, IMO i'd be failing myself because I'd be creating artificial happiness for myself in the last moment of my life. I would not want to go out that way.
Yeah but you can't really define artificial happiness without lying on extremely arbitrary concepts. All our happiness is chemical induced, and the desire to go out under one chemical induced brain state or another is going to vary from person to person
The man's got a point. On the other hand, I think that Webster simply means he'd be dying in this weird state of almost forced happiness, because that's what that chemical does. Compared to say Shrooms or acid, which wouldn't put him into a happy state of mind. He'd do that on his own
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Re: Huge dose on death bed [Re: Webster10]
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Well that's all fine and dandy. You'll probably be hopped on morphine anyways tho. Just saying. But I get what you're saying. The original comment just came off as "holier than thou" like the act of doing heroin itself fails us as human beings
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Webster10
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JacksonMetaller said: Well that's all fine and dandy. You'll probably be hopped on morphine anyways tho. Just saying. But I get what you're saying. The original comment just came off as "holier than thou" like the act of doing heroin itself fails us as human beings
Sorry man, I wasn't trying to imply that at all. It's all subjective. Some people would want to feel as happy as possible in their last moments of life, chemically induced or not, and I respect that.
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