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I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development
    #19402533 - 01/11/14 06:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Anybody have any experience with doing this?


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779] * 2
    #19402538 - 01/11/14 06:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What if you find it was all a waste of time and you might as well have been sleeping with beautiful women rather than searching for answers to questions that there are no definite answers for?


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19402553 - 01/11/14 06:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The thing is, for me to even get to the point where I'm sleeping with beautiful women, I need to stifle my libido, because right now I'm at a point where I'm glancing at a screen and jacking off every day and it really drains my energy. My sexual energy is drained too and I don't even have an interest in beautiful women. I never recharge to the point where that interest is renewed. And the first step to me sleeping with a beautiful woman is getting a job, and I don't even have enough energy to do that right now.

That being said, it's been proven that there are different levels of meditation* and I'll be damned if I'm not going to reach the more advanced levels and I'm not going to let anything stop me, not even sex. So the major celibacy that you speak of is something that I'm confident in and I will probably go down that road. Don't be so dismissive.


*Jack Kornfield, "Intensive Insight Meditation: A Phenomenological Study," The Journal of Transpersonal Psychology, vol. 11, no. 1, 1979


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779] * 2
    #19402576 - 01/11/14 06:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just really wish I was gay so it wouldn't be hard to obtain sex.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779]
    #19402588 - 01/11/14 07:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fair enough, man. It seems like you have more than one reason to do this.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779]
    #19402633 - 01/11/14 07:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

In non-western medical traditions such as Ayurveda, Chinese or Tibetan medicine, it is widely known that retention of semen is a source of health, strength, vitality, and general well-being. The drain of energy that is felt after orgasm has a solid scientific basis. Moreover, the easily observable effect of the woman absorbing semen, becoming lively, energetic and happy, is evidence of the energy transmitted.

- See more at: http://sacred-sex.org/facts/articles/231-semen-retention.html#sthash.B4ch3BC1.dpuf


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19402636 - 01/11/14 07:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

On a side note you could get an injection of Invega Sustenna...:tongue2:  Shit kills my sex drive.


Edited by FishOilTheKid (01/11/14 08:37 AM)


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: FishOilTheKid] * 1
    #19403572 - 01/11/14 12:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When i leave my room and stop playing with my miniature zen garden that my girlfriend made me I will link an interesting book that, if you do the exercise you can have as many orgasms as you want and never lose energy through ejaculation. It called the multi orgasmic man. To be honest I only went as far as controlling premature ejaculation... I have never had a non-ejaculatory orgasm. Still though, give it a try maybe.

Imo sex is not the enemy. Jerking it to porn is. Try to cut porn out of your diet if you can. Great sex with a person you really like can be a spiritual thing. Its like two tangled bodies becoming one. You don't need to go completely celibate, unless you really want to. Just stop watching porn and stop fapping and things will get easier when meditating and as a added plus you will find yourself more confident and better able to talk to pretty girls (or guys if that is you thing).


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #19403961 - 01/11/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What ya gotta do is find a fellow woman who is into development. Then she sits on you while you're in a kind of lotus - making a twin lotus of sorts. You penetrate her and keep it erect while channeling energy. Then the two of you pop out of your bodies and travel the mysteries of the universe together - while the unattended bodies maintain penetration.
Shamanic sex tantra  :bigkiss:  :yinyang:  :Awemush:  :awepreciation:  :window:


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Deckard_Cain]
    #19403968 - 01/11/14 01:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds epic.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19404220 - 01/11/14 02:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:heart: Thanks for the INFO


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779]
    #19404308 - 01/11/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Da2ra said:
Anybody have any experience with doing this?




Get a hobby other than masturbation. One habit replaces another. A lot easier than trying something silly like going cold turkey. Just spend your time engrossed in something else. I use guitar and cooking personally.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Kickle]
    #19404548 - 01/11/14 04:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cooking is awesome. Food is awesome.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Deckard_Cain]
    #19404578 - 01/11/14 04:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What ya gotta do is find a fellow woman who is into development. Then she sits on you while you're in a kind of lotus - making a twin lotus of sorts. You penetrate her and keep it erect while channeling energy. Then the two of you pop out of your bodies and travel the mysteries of the universe together - while the unattended bodies maintain penetration.
Shamanic sex tantra  :bigkiss:  :yinyang:  :Awemush:  :awepreciation:  :window:




Alwayys dreamed of this...


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: circastes]
    #19404605 - 01/11/14 04:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

One thing about modern life that is fricken sweet. Saturday is grocery day and while I'm out I have my slow cooker running. Home made chili today :thumbup:


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779]
    #19404812 - 01/11/14 05:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Any attempts I made to reduce my libido failed miserably, trying to control it only causes it to come back even stronger the moment you let your guard down. I eventually just gave up and accepted that there wasn't anything I could do.

However, during this time I also had a regular prayer and meditation practice. I was praying the Chaplet of St. Michael and the holy rosary of the blessed virgin Mary daily and I found that after about 7 months of this (plus fairly intensive meditation daily also) my overactive sex drive simply fell away and I became chaste. I was almost disappointed because I lost the ability to enjoy masturbation and things like that. I seldom even think about sex these days, maybe 2-3 times a day when it used to be every 5 minutes and the other difference is if I start getting sexual thoughts now if I have the option to ignore them and move on to something else whereas before the sexual thoughts used to control me and I could not get rid of them.

So anyway, forget about trying to control your sex drive. Simply put your heart and soul into a genuine puification practice like the Holy Rosary and watch your carnal desires fall away from you gradually. I was doing a lot of spiritual stuff, as I said, spiritual reading, meditation, various prayers so its hard for me to say which thing did what but I suspect the Chaplet of St. Michael and the Rosary were among the most purifying of my activities.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779]
    #19405017 - 01/11/14 06:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development




Spirituality is about inclusion, not exclusion. Learning to accept all of yourself.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #19405025 - 01/11/14 06:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've seen spiritual literature talk about resisting one's sexual desires in order to go further on the path.

It's also undeniable that sex has a negative impact on some peoples' lives.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779]
    #19405164 - 01/11/14 06:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

See yourself as that enlightened person then be him, you must advance spiritually to overcome sexual desire not the other way around. Hope this helps god bless


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779] * 1
    #19405184 - 01/11/14 06:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Anybody have any experience with doing this?




How old are you? I became celibate for up to 3 years at a time, at the wrong time - my 20s! It was the 1970s, and when psychedelia morphed into disco, and acid use gave over to Quaaludes and cocaine, it was easy to get laid at college. Some girls just took a 'lude.' and became lewd.  Meanwhile, I was losing female friends because I was crazy (celibate). When I fell in love with a promiscuous girl who was destined to a lifetime of prostitution, out went my celibacy. I struggled with my sexual desires, and almost became a monastic! I entered a methodist seminary instead, and over those 2 years, I still managed to get laid now and then, but then I'd beat myself up for having poor self-control. But I was still in my 20s. Now, at 60, my libido is at its lowest, but I still have to keep my wife happy. Except for the occasional still-necessary milking of the Cowper's gland, I think I'm over sex. That doesn't mean that pics of beauties don't effect me, but even then, it's more head and heart, stare and gasp, than *Schwing*


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