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    #19404500 - 01/11/14 04:04 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

I just inoculated some jars.  But the WBS is like stuck together because it is wet.  The top of it is crumbly.

Should I open the top and move the seeds around if I have gloves? or is this a bad idea?

Is it normal to stick together?


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404505 - 01/11/14 04:05 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

you didn't rinse well enough or should have used gypsum


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: cronicr]
    #19404509 - 01/11/14 04:06 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

and no don't reach in there with anything, is it a solid mass?


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: cronicr]
    #19404517 - 01/11/14 04:08 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Is it wet or sticky? Is there any cracked corn in it?


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: mushmagic]
    #19404583 - 01/11/14 04:21 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

work on your grain prep, soak for 12-24 hours gypsum optional but i highly recommend it.

then bring to a simmer/boil and dump into collander as soon as it starts bubblin to realease the steam and dry the grain

dont cook your wbs :thumbup:


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: mushmagic]
    #19404586 - 01/11/14 04:22 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Don't be talking about cracked "crap" corn now.


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: Enigma1]
    #19404595 - 01/11/14 04:23 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Gypsum?


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: Enigma1]
    #19404600 - 01/11/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

gypsum is an additive, you can get it at aces or lowes etc.  add roughly about 1tablespoonish per jar while its soaking in the pot or w/e you use to soak it in,  and leave it when you boil


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: twistedty]
    #19404652 - 01/11/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

yes it is a solid mass and yes there is cracked corn.  I did not keep track of the time when I was simmering and I may have boiled it because it was like a sludge after it was boiled.



Should I wait and restart?  Or will it still work?


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404655 - 01/11/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Can I reuse these jars?  I have bought so many lately it's ridiculous


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404660 - 01/11/14 04:36 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

i would just start over, of course you can re-use the jars, there good till they break


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404662 - 01/11/14 04:37 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

if you dont shake it after pressure cooking it will turn to a solid mass also atleast that was my experience :foreheadslap:

did you shake after pressure cooking?


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: alabamamushie]
    #19404674 - 01/11/14 04:39 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

over cooked under rinsed and no gypsum, if your not using gypsum rinse the fuck out of it


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404676 - 01/11/14 04:40 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

no i didn't shake after pressure cooking.  damn i just wasted some spore solution. :frown:


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: alabamamushie]
    #19404679 - 01/11/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Don't have boil either.


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404698 - 01/11/14 04:45 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

ok so what i did wrong was not se gypsum,  over boiled, not rinsed enough, and didn't shake after pressure cooking right?


I filled the jars 3/4 th's


Could I have filled it too much?

They are filled to the 700 milliliter line on a standard ballpark quart jar.


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404706 - 01/11/14 04:46 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

it was fine until i simmered it. then it expanded like three times


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404726 - 01/11/14 04:49 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

no you ddn't fill it too much, just feel them before you load your jars, if they feel sticky it will be messy


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404735 - 01/11/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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it was fine until i simmered it. then it expanded like three times




how long was your simmer, just bring water up to simmer then shut the heat off and drain and steam/dry


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404774 - 01/11/14 04:58 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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ok so what i did wrong was not se gypsum,  over boiled, not rinsed enough, and didn't shake after pressure cooking .



:thumbup: and You don't have boil .


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: twistedty]
    #19404786 - 01/11/14 05:01 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

:thumbup:




how long was your simmer, just bring water up to simmer then shut the heat off and drain and steam/dry




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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404840 - 01/11/14 05:15 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

i actually lost track of time so that is probably the reason for it. maybe it was 30-40 minutes but It was boiling or bubbling the whole time.

Oh well, I'll try and find some gypsum tomorrow and restart.

So I can't take a knife and wipe it with alcohol and stir up the seeds?

It shakes around on the top and on the bottom but it sticks together in the middle.

It's like a big lump that  won't break up


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread] * 1
    #19404854 - 01/11/14 05:17 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

just soak for 4-24 hours simmer(NOT BOIL) for 10 minutes drain and load


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404909 - 01/11/14 05:32 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

what would be the negative side of putting a knife in and mixing it?

It would still be sludgy?

I just used some spores so I want to try and save it.


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404947 - 01/11/14 05:46 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

hello?


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404959 - 01/11/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

contamination would be hitting the jar if you did that more then 90% likely so you would still lose the jar before the spores get a chance to germinate


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19404962 - 01/11/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

it shouldnt ever be sludgy,  everyone has their own way i just bring to simmer and dump.

some simmer.  if you choose to simmer i think 10mins would be the max

you want inner grain hydrated.

hense get the grains hot and steam leaving the surface of said grain drys it.

stir occasionaly why they are in collander to release more steam

its easy as tits

if done properly they should roll around like bbs in your jar with or w/o gypsum


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: twistedty]
    #19405044 - 01/11/14 06:07 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

I use my eyes, fingers and teeth when prepping grains, not timers.


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19405878 - 01/11/14 09:19 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

haha teeth??? what?  you check if it's soft or something with your teeth?does it matter that my WBS has corn.  I want to just to a brf cake, that was so much more simple.


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19405910 - 01/11/14 09:27 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

yep you can bite on grain:thumbup: or just use your thumbnail


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: cronicr]
    #19406086 - 01/11/14 10:25 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

yep if your thumbnail can split it, its good to go


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: twistedty]
    #19406377 - 01/11/14 11:57 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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it was fine until i simmered it. then it expanded like three times




how long was your simmer, just bring water up to simmer then shut the heat off and drain and steam/dry




:whathesaid: Were a bunch of your kernals cracked after the simmer?


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19406408 - 01/12/14 12:10 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

yes they were cracked.    I have spent so much time and money on this.  Once it works everything will change.
No more negativity in my life.


Tomorrow I'm gonna wake up, have some weed milk, then go look for some gypsum at Ace hardware and restart.

I spend so much money on weed, I think having shrooms will make it so I don't need to smoke as much.


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19406441 - 01/12/14 12:24 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

Yea you simmered a bit too long. A few cracked kernals are ok but you don't want a bunch of them. Best of luck to you hope all goes well this time around:mushroom2:


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Re: wbs sticking together [Re: JahLambsbread]
    #19406442 - 01/12/14 12:24 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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yes they were cracked.    I have spent so much time and money on this.  Once it works everything will change.
No more negativity in my life.


Tomorrow I'm gonna wake up, have some weed milk, then go look for some gypsum at Ace hardware and restart.

I spend so much money on weed, I think having shrooms will make it so I don't need to smoke as much.




np bro. just work on your grain tek, youre not cooking the wbs just getting water hot enought so steam releases off the grain.

as soon as it hits simmer transfer to collander


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    #19406443 - 01/12/14 12:25 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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Yea you simmered a bit too long. A few cracked kernals are ok but you don't want a bunch of them. Best of luck to you hope all goes well this time around:mushroom2:





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