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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
#19402808 - 01/11/14 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: And no solution has been given.
Why is it so hard for you guys to think of something serious?
Basically people have to want to solve their own problems. You can't legislate an end to overeating and sedentary lifestyles any more than you can legislate an end to drug addiction or STDs. You can always try to educate people though. Plenty of people still seem to believe that it's just fat intake that can make you fat, and eating as much sugar as you want is no problem.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: psi] 1
#19402821 - 01/11/14 08:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No legislation, more education. Unfortunately, our population seems to be willfully ignorant of the truth of their eating habits. There's only so much you can tell people before they actually have to engage their willpower at some point.
Which is why, when faced with the utmost extreme, people with a morbidly high BMI or body weight (or just visibly disgusting; think honey booboo's mom), should be euthanised and made into an affordable food supplement for the poor. This is progressive help for everyone.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: something super extreme] 1
#19402838 - 01/11/14 08:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The solution to this problem is setting an example for your children, positive influences last generations.
Over-indulgence is not only bad for your health it is stupid. Its not about just eating the right foods, its about digesting your food properly and using the calories you take it.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... [Re: psi]
#19402917 - 01/11/14 09:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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psi said: Free home liposuction kits for everyone!

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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
#19402934 - 01/11/14 09:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: Houston, we have a problem. A big fat problem...
I don't think I need to post any sources, you probably all believe me. America is addicted with sugar, salt and fat.
What I ask from you is an intelligent solution? Something ingenious, something farfetched, Something simple, yet extremely effective.
mexico, england and australia have all passed the US in obesity, why it the US a problem?
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Give me solutions.
blame canada
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: mr sniffles]
#19402939 - 01/11/14 09:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Regulating corporations so they don't kill us?
Sounds like something STALIN would say.
you ever hear of communist countries having obesity problems? lol
http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/02-06-2010/113612-obesity-0/
http://themoscownews.com/russia/20121211/190992372.html
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19402941 - 01/11/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here's a link on the subject for people still interested. 15 health studies of 2013.
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/9lkhJE/:1IOQS$Qj!:OB.urMo5/greatist.com/health/best-health-studies-2013/
Very interesting
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19402946 - 01/11/14 09:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: blame canada
Have you guys been eating all that lumber we sent? That's hardly our fault.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: psi]
#19402959 - 01/11/14 09:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's up to the individual. If it's for yourself just don't be a lazy fuck. I'm overweight but I wouldn't say that's a bad thing. I feel healthy and can do whatever I want. It'd be uncomfortable not to have meat on me.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19402967 - 01/11/14 09:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: Houston, we have a problem. A big fat problem...
I don't think I need to post any sources, you probably all believe me. America is addicted with sugar, salt and fat.
What I ask from you is an intelligent solution? Something ingenious, something farfetched, Something simple, yet extremely effective.
mexico, england and australia have all passed the US in obesity, why it the US a problem?
WTF is up with the national rivalries, its a worldwide problem. I just hap[pened to find a US article about it.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: psi]
#19402992 - 01/11/14 10:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: blame canada
Have you guys been eating all that lumber we sent? That's hardly our fault.
nope, it's the poutine
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/obesity-rates-at-historic-levels-in-canada-1.1321955
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
#19402999 - 01/11/14 10:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seems to me like a big part of the problem on the food end is probably oversupply of corn syrup. Corn looks to be by far the most heavily subsidized crop in the US.
http://farm.ewg.org/region.php?fips=00000
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
#19403002 - 01/11/14 10:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: WTF is up with the national rivalries, its a worldwide problem. I just hap[pened to find a US article about it.
seems that's a part of the problem, you just happened to find an article about it, it's a national rivalry, everyone wants to make the US out to be something it's not, that's your canadian pride because after reading that you didnt bother to look at your own country to see how fat you guys are
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19403026 - 01/11/14 10:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Most articles I've come across say not as fat as Americans (1 in 4 obese vs 1 in 3,) so that's something. Personally I'm fairly skinny.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19403062 - 01/11/14 10:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: WTF is up with the national rivalries, its a worldwide problem. I just hap[pened to find a US article about it.
seems that's a part of the problem, you just happened to find an article about it, it's a national rivalry, everyone wants to make the US out to be something it's not, that's your canadian pride because after reading that you didnt bother to look at your own country to see how fat you guys are
To be fair, North America is dominated by US food conglomerates, and North America just happens to be the fattest continrnt, by far. Our fat culture has seeped across the borders.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal] 3
#19403086 - 01/11/14 10:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stop subsidizing starch and sugar crap, start taxing them instead. Unhealthy addictive foods should be more expensive than basic normal survival stuff. MSG I personally stay away from, as I think it's bad for you. But even if it isn't, it does make you eat more and want more of the food before you, so yeh. To be looked into.
Start subsidizing green lean healthy things and tax the crap. If they do it for cigarettes and alcohol IMO they should do it for shitty foods as well. Starchy stuff leads to excess inflammatory Omega 6 oils. Green veggies and fish to Omega 3. They should be about even in one's diet. Currently the Standard American Diet has something like 1:20 ratio, in favor of Omega 6. Hence the allergies, irritability, probably contributes to obesity as people are less able to be active and have lousier moods, etc. TED Talk about this.
As it is right now, healthy food is expensive, crap fatty foods are cheap. This is reflected in what people buy and eventually eat.
Start figuring weight/diet/some other metric of this sort, more intensely into things like insurance costs or even wages. It is NOT the same for a company, if there's an environment of reasonably fit people, or fucking whales. We know obesity is to some extent a factor of whether your not your peers are obese. So there are real reasons to discourage this stuff actively. By discourage I mean don't offer the same wages. All things being equal, the fat person should NOT get the job over the equally qualified normal weight one, or if both get it, they shouldn't be paid the same. Basically a being fat tax, I'm pretty sure that'd be quite effective
I know there's already a fat tax, in the sense that people react differently to some extent, but it's one thing to just get hints and bad vibes now and then, and another to see it black on white every month, that your extra weight is costing you this much $$$. Would be hard to implement of course (especially in America where suing seems to be a national sport) but somehow you have to get to the meat of the matter.
Regulate what CAN be on a store shelf, labeled as food in the first place. Regulate acceptable sugar levels, or at least label them clearly, obviously.
Promote nudism or something. Anything that would give a bit more incentive for people to look good, stay fit. Most people put in a healthy context will reflect at least some of that context into that behavior. Having only food stores that sell crap around your house WILL lead to eating more crap and being overweight. I notice this as I travel around. The Netherlands supermarkets have a far wider selection of fresh salads and greens to choose from, than my country. Consequently I eat way healthier here than back home. If Americans are fat, it's I think largely a function of what's put before them in stores and restaurants, to choose from.
Tell people about portion size and longevity.
Also, straight up rewards for moving and being active. Russian Metro accepts 30 squats as payment for a ride. You can put a lot of things like this around, even if not so obvious.
More bike lanes, incentives to use bikes or electric bikes as opposed to cars, what have you.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Spacerific]
#19403099 - 01/11/14 10:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any legislation set forth to improve society as a whole is looked down upon by the modern right wing as nanny state over regulation.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
#19403104 - 01/11/14 10:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: Houston, we have a problem. A big fat problem...
I don't think I need to post any sources, you probably all believe me. America is addicted with sugar, salt and fat.
What I ask from you is an intelligent solution? Something ingenious, something farfetched, Something simple, yet extremely effective.
Give me solutions.
why do you always want to fix everything? let it be.
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: The Ecstatic]
#19403113 - 01/11/14 10:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is purely sarcastic though;
Who cares if people want to kill themselves with obesity and live unhealthy un-fit lives - in 50% of cases it is an undeniably avoidable disease.
Should I have to pay more taxes due to federal regulation and the work that will have to be done to see these bills pass, and be regulated?
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: The Ecstatic]
#19403114 - 01/11/14 10:30 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Patlal said: WTF is up with the national rivalries, its a worldwide problem. I just hap[pened to find a US article about it.
seems that's a part of the problem, you just happened to find an article about it, it's a national rivalry, everyone wants to make the US out to be something it's not, that's your canadian pride because after reading that you didnt bother to look at your own country to see how fat you guys are
To be fair, North America is dominated by US food conglomerates, and North America just happens to be the fattest continrnt, by far. Our fat culture has seeped across the borders.
nonsense, you cant blame america for the obesity of other nations, it's canada's fault
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