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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19412117 - 01/13/14 11:46 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

I don't see 2-3 half glasses of wine per night having a detrimental effect on my libido. I haven't had hash oil since the early 1970s, and I wouldn't know where to find it in Miami anyway. One drop on the head of a pin, with the point of the pin heated in a glass pipe is how we took it, and I remember always coughing a lot (as well as getting really, really stoned). I've heard cannabis oil as being a regular panacea, but not for the changes that come to one's libido at age 60. The only thing I've witnessed drug-wise, are two gay men who could afford monthly $1200 injections of Human Growth Hormone (HGH). That stuff rejuvenates! One can buy it on-line for less, but you might get some Chinese man's pituitary extract from a brain that was infected with lethal Creutzfeldt-Jakob Syndrome. :eek:

For years and years I wanted to be free of the nagging sexual desire. Now that it's waning, and ED becomes more prevalent such that I should probably take the blue pills my physician gave me, I object, when I should go with the flow. Maybe it's good. I went to the mall recently with my wife, and as I entered, I brought a smile to a gorgeous woman approaching me. The same thing happened in Target a couple of weeks ago when my eyes locked with a model-looking female.  (1) I'm faithfully married, and (2) I'd only embarrass myself performance-wise with a much younger creature. :shrug: It's nature's way of directing me to further detachment from the world at an age when it's appropriate that I do so, not during my 20s when my ideals were stoked by LSD inebriation. I used to want to be a sage or a saint, now, my death-anxiety has me longing to be a stud. Life has been bass ackward from the start.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: s240779] * 1
    #19412185 - 01/13/14 12:02 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Da2ra said:
Anybody have any experience with doing this?



My opinion on this is that you will find frustration and retarded development as a result of trying to deny what you are.

I don't believe in sin as anything that exists outside the relative sense and that relative sense is only what affects the body. Examples:

Hunger is bad, being well fed is good.

Abstinence is bad, seed sowing is good.

Pain is bad, pleasure is good.

If you ever want to frustrate, confuse, control, and utterly screw a person up then all you need to do is convince them that all those things are opposite in the eyes of god and give them the impossible goal of trying to make it so within themselves. That will assure their failure and their reliance upon a control structure for forgiveness and inspiration to continue their vain and futile efforts and so forth.

I don't see anything that could be called beneficial to the human organism or to the spiritual development of the human coming from the denial of human nature or natural functions. I can only see how it harms the specimen's psychological and spiritual functioning by becoming involved in such an experiment.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19412213 - 01/13/14 12:10 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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I don't see 2-3 half glasses of wine per night having a detrimental effect on my libido. I haven't had hash oil since the early 1970s, and I wouldn't know where to find it in Miami anyway. One drop on the head of a pin, with the point of the pin heated in a glass pipe is how we took it, and I remember always coughing a lot (as well as getting really, really stoned). I've heard cannabis oil as being a regular panacea, but not for the changes that come to one's libido at age 60. The only thing I've witnessed drug-wise, are two gay men who could afford monthly $1200 injections of Human Growth Hormone (HGH). That stuff rejuvenates! One can buy it on-line for less, but you might get some Chinese man's pituitary extract from a brain that was infected with lethal Creutzfeldt-Jakob Syndrome. :eek:

For years and years I wanted to be free of the nagging sexual desire. Now that it's waning, and ED becomes more prevalent such that I should probably take the blue pills my physician gave me, I object, when I should go with the flow. Maybe it's good. I went to the mall recently with my wife, and as I entered, I brought a smile to a gorgeous woman approaching me. The same thing happened in Target a couple of weeks ago when my eyes locked with a model-looking female.  (1) I'm faithfully married, and (2) I'd only embarrass myself performance-wise with a much younger creature. :shrug: It's nature's way of directing me to further detachment from the world at an age when it's appropriate that I do so, not during my 20s when my ideals were stoked by LSD inebriation. I used to want to be a sage or a saint, now, my death-anxiety has me longing to be a stud. Life has been bass ackward from the start.




Well, I see a potential hindrance.  I think this plan to have 2-3 glasses of wine and make love late in the night could be ignoring the natural rhythm of your body at this point in life.  Try getting a good night's sleep, 'wake and bake' with a few hits of ganja (if your belief would permit the experiment), and go at it first thing in the morning.  I think that might work better.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19412219 - 01/13/14 12:12 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
I don't see 2-3 half glasses of wine per night having a detrimental effect on my libido. I haven't had hash oil since the early 1970s, and I wouldn't know where to find it in Miami anyway. One drop on the head of a pin, with the point of the pin heated in a glass pipe is how we took it, and I remember always coughing a lot (as well as getting really, really stoned). I've heard cannabis oil as being a regular panacea, but not for the changes that come to one's libido at age 60. The only thing I've witnessed drug-wise, are two gay men who could afford monthly $1200 injections of Human Growth Hormone (HGH). That stuff rejuvenates! One can buy it on-line for less, but you might get some Chinese man's pituitary extract from a brain that was infected with lethal Creutzfeldt-Jakob Syndrome. :eek:

For years and years I wanted to be free of the nagging sexual desire. Now that it's waning, and ED becomes more prevalent such that I should probably take the blue pills my physician gave me, I object, when I should go with the flow. Maybe it's good. I went to the mall recently with my wife, and as I entered, I brought a smile to a gorgeous woman approaching me. The same thing happened in Target a couple of weeks ago when my eyes locked with a model-looking female.  (1) I'm faithfully married, and (2) I'd only embarrass myself performance-wise with a much younger creature. :shrug: It's nature's way of directing me to further detachment from the world at an age when it's appropriate that I do so, not during my 20s when my ideals were stoked by LSD inebriation. I used to want to be a sage or a saint, now, my death-anxiety has me longing to be a stud. Life has been bass ackward from the start.




I find retirement to the opium (kratom) den to be preferable actually.  At 61  you're not going to have sex for 5 or 6 hours every day.  But you can nod every day like that and some of the rushes are very sexy.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Icelander]
    #19412222 - 01/13/14 12:13 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Hey I agree and more power to you if you make it.  I've seen those guys at Burning Man.  My favorites however were those trippers wandering alone in the night out there. (I was one). Those chance meetings stick in my mind better than most memories.  I miss the Man (a lot) but I don't miss sweating it out in a tent and no sleep for a week. :lol:  If I ever find some guys willing to go in on a camper trailer I'll make it back there.




I know just what you mean, and I experience that to some extent in my city life too, often the best conversations I have are a matter of serendipity with random people I meet.  Sadly, it's almost easier to jump into a wild philosophical conversation with a total stranger.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19412754 - 01/13/14 02:46 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

Still dealing with good and bad are we?


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Icyus]
    #19413061 - 01/13/14 04:01 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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Still dealing with good and bad are we?



Biologically relative terms. Its really what is perceived biologically that I am describing here. There is no penalty for those "sins" other than physical discomfort or perhaps eventually death. I don't know what other words to use to describe beneficial and nonbeneficial to the human organism to relay their perceived benefit or lack thereof in the context of a spiritual dialogue. You see, I'm not as well spoken as you so I end up using analogies a lot.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #19413252 - 01/13/14 04:47 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

I had thought a long time there were pleasure and pain.. love and hate... fear and content.. and that they were all expereances to be had.. a full spectrum..

More so.. in my earlier years.. I would have though pain to be negative.. as it is hurtful.. but later I realized it to be the fear of pain that made it hurt, and the pain itself to be quite much like euphoria...

later I would be rather a hypocrite.. saying fear is bad, because it causes sickness... but I came to a realization that the fear of fear(strange as it may sound)  makes it hurtful.. and the essense and feeling of fear itself it nothing but a rush... though as I came to fear less and less... It takes alot to get that same rush.. it takes alot to get that pain... I decided not to heal my fear of hights and social anxiety... it is but a part of life.. and very exiting.. I didnt change it. I only altered the way I percieved it, in a way...

the part with hunger being bad... death being bad.. it is only bad if one wishes to live. There one may percieve its relation.. if that makes sense.. praising life above death, I think it roots upon.. it is quite a preconcieved notion? Fear of the unknown to be specific..  one must realize, wonder, understand, reflect and alter. It helps not know anything if it isnt put to any use.. (even this.. a relative truth.. though in the context I meant it, be it understood or not.. Its relativity wouldnt have mattered.)

I guess, Wizard Dee, that one must carefully watch their words in order to rine accurateness.. even though most who read will not see the difference..  to be accurate in depicting truth, you must speak in the tongue of your converser, speaking as they might understand you... even though they most likely will not return the favor..

it ends up, once again in telepqthy.. it can be acchieved through altering the minds accordingly.. though this might be more like adjusting fractions rather than frequensies.. one to the first might be a houndred to the second. There is no need for specific words, because the understanding in wowen into the words like a painting rather than a code.. communication is a bitch, huh? I often find myself i  the same seat.. wanting to say so much more, but lacking the words to do so..

maybe we should start writing down our feeling instead? I feel a little stopped and positive towards that. I feel understanding of its consequences.. changing the way we speak dramaticly, but I feel it is outweighed by the peace and joy I believe it will bring..  for those capable of staying in touch woth their feelinfs atleast..


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19413722 - 01/13/14 06:25 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

It's not about any belief regarding cannabis. I just don't use it because getting stoned is a state of consciousness that simply does not appeal to me, and hasn't for literally decades. I haves toked up upon awakening since I was 18 years old. My wife doesn't like morning sex, although I did pleasure her Sunday morning. But she doesn't feel it then, or she is too self-conscious about how she appears upon waking. What Ever. I don'y wake-with-wood anymore, which is something you will eventually discover yourself. When we first met, I was 43, and I remember going 6-7 times in one night with her. I was still very horny, she was a new love, and I was almost 20 years younger. Icelander was correct about the degradation of one's accustomed reality with age. This is one of the facts of life that young people just don't want to ponder. It is not a matter of me jamming myself, having a repressive belief, or not using the requisite substance. It is about the inevitable entropy that is over-taking my still toned, lightly muscled body that lends itself to a perception of a younger man on the outside. I used to pursue the "blissful, sexless highs" that poet Gary Snyder satirized in Turtle Island, in a poem entitled 'Pine Tree Tops.' Perhaps my second childhood should settle on the late adolescence that truly shaped my personality instead of the usual infantile regressive shit that most others settle into with their adult Depends® and such.

The ex acid-heads from the cities
Converted to Guru or Swami,
Do penance with shiny
Dopey eyes, and quit eating meat.
In the forests of North America,
The land of Coyote and Eagle,
They dream of India, of
forever blissful sexless highs.
And sleep in oil-heated
Geodesic domes, that
Were stuck like warts
in the woods.
And the Coyote singing
is shut away
for they fear
the call
of the wild.
And they sold their virgin cedar trees,
the tallest trees in miles,
To a logger
Who told them
”Trees are full of bugs.”


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Icelander]
    #19413819 - 01/13/14 06:45 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

No offense to you Icelander (I often joke to Rose about wanting to start using heroin), but I do not want to take the 'raptures of the deep' path that several psychedelic musician-pioneers did including JDM, Jimi Hendrix, and Jerry Garcia. In other words, a diver with raptures (nitrogen narcosis), doesn't know (or care) the difference between up and down, and have often dived deeper to their death instead of surfacing. "Been down so goddamned long, it looks like up to me..." These people made a U-turn, a 180° shift that took them out of expansion and into contraction, inspiration to expiration, light to dark, life to death. Perhaps increasing awareness of one's mortality leads many to shut down/off that awareness instead of shifting their sense of identity from the existential to the ontological, from life-in-the-body to Being, a la Eckhart Tolle. This seems the more straight-forward, take-the-bull-by-its-horns approach to the human condition. I would prefer to pierce this 'vale of tears' with dispassionate insight (gnosis/jnana) than suppress the anxiety with anxiolytic drugs.

Less and less do I care about rushes, getting off (sexually, psychedelically, narcotically), blissing out, getting high, turning on, or being stoned. I'm still curious and so I read, and I still want to take care of my Lady, but I've begun to withdraw from life on a whole new level, and won't use drugs unless this painful lesion on my arm turns out to be cancerous, or if today's blood work induces my physician to order an ultrasound of my liver (as my last enzyme test was elevated). I'm insisting on a biopsy tomorrow, so we'll see if the best laid plans are to be undone. Then I'll order some kratom.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Icelander]
    #19413930 - 01/13/14 07:08 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
I don't see 2-3 half glasses of wine per night having a detrimental effect on my libido. I haven't had hash oil since the early 1970s, and I wouldn't know where to find it in Miami anyway. One drop on the head of a pin, with the point of the pin heated in a glass pipe is how we took it, and I remember always coughing a lot (as well as getting really, really stoned). I've heard cannabis oil as being a regular panacea, but not for the changes that come to one's libido at age 60. The only thing I've witnessed drug-wise, are two gay men who could afford monthly $1200 injections of Human Growth Hormone (HGH). That stuff rejuvenates! One can buy it on-line for less, but you might get some Chinese man's pituitary extract from a brain that was infected with lethal Creutzfeldt-Jakob Syndrome. :eek:

For years and years I wanted to be free of the nagging sexual desire. Now that it's waning, and ED becomes more prevalent such that I should probably take the blue pills my physician gave me, I object, when I should go with the flow. Maybe it's good. I went to the mall recently with my wife, and as I entered, I brought a smile to a gorgeous woman approaching me. The same thing happened in Target a couple of weeks ago when my eyes locked with a model-looking female.  (1) I'm faithfully married, and (2) I'd only embarrass myself performance-wise with a much younger creature. :shrug: It's nature's way of directing me to further detachment from the world at an age when it's appropriate that I do so, not during my 20s when my ideals were stoked by LSD inebriation. I used to want to be a sage or a saint, now, my death-anxiety has me longing to be a stud. Life has been bass ackward from the start.




I find retirement to the opium (kratom) den to be preferable actually.  At 61  you're not going to have sex for 5 or 6 hours every day.  But you can nod every day like that and some of the rushes are very sexy.



Are you saying that opium and or heroin are a good drug for older people?

If so, I totally agree. They have sso many aches and pains, they deserve to have access to it.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19414350 - 01/13/14 08:40 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

Meh.  I'm pretty sure I know about my body degrading, I've been nearly legally blind since 7yo and have yearly ticks in my eyeglass prescription.  It's atrocious at -7.0, and I'm but 33yo.  I suppose I could just accept my destiny that my body is going to continually degrade and not have my vision corrected, but honestly I prefer sight and thank optometry.  I don't see how that would be any different w/ my sexual organs, other than some people who wrote some book telling me that at a certain age I'm supposed to forget about sex and make a last ditch effort at enlightenment before I croak as to not transmigrate.

I think I'll just do that right now, get free, and enjoy the rest of my life as I see fit.

If you don't like the cannabis high (which is qualitatively different than being stoned, much like a couple half glasses of wine is qualitatively different than smooshed off a bottle of Jameson), well, I can't argue that.  If it did work in bed for you, I think you might change your mind.  Doesn't mean you'd have to act like an 18yo getting stoned out of your gourd all waking hours. 

I do encourage some experimentation though, I mean, the sex in the morning thing isn't purely a matter of waking up with morning wood.  It's about having gotten a full night's rest, you'll be more apt to rise to the occasion.  If none of that interests you, here's one vote for the blue pill.  That's my plan, I've relied on science and medicine my whole life.  I'm just hoping between a nearly vegan diet, briskly walking no less than 4 miles, and meditation, that I'll never need any lame psychoactive pharmaceuticals, opiods, 'restless leg disease' medicines etc.  An erection in a pill doesn't seem so unreasonable.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19416081 - 01/14/14 06:32 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
No offense to you Icelander (I often joke to Rose about wanting to start using heroin), but I do not want to take the 'raptures of the deep' path that several psychedelic musician-pioneers did including JDM, Jimi Hendrix, and Jerry Garcia. In other words, a diver with raptures (nitrogen narcosis), doesn't know (or care) the difference between up and down, and have often dived deeper to their death instead of surfacing. "Been down so goddamned long, it looks like up to me..." These people made a U-turn, a 180° shift that took them out of expansion and into contraction, inspiration to expiration, light to dark, life to death. Perhaps increasing awareness of one's mortality leads many to shut down/off that awareness instead of shifting their sense of identity from the existential to the ontological, from life-in-the-body to Being, a la Eckhart Tolle. This seems the more straight-forward, take-the-bull-by-its-horns approach to the human condition. I would prefer to pierce this 'vale of tears' with dispassionate insight (gnosis/jnana) than suppress the anxiety with anxiolytic drugs.

Less and less do I care about rushes, getting off (sexually, psychedelically, narcotically), blissing out, getting high, turning on, or being stoned. I'm still curious and so I read, and I still want to take care of my Lady, but I've begun to withdraw from life on a whole new level, and won't use drugs unless this painful lesion on my arm turns out to be cancerous, or if today's blood work induces my physician to order an ultrasound of my liver (as my last enzyme test was elevated). I'm insisting on a biopsy tomorrow, so we'll see if the best laid plans are to be undone. Then I'll order some kratom.





Heroin is the last place I want to end up.  Kratom is a much much much better choice and actually has strong antioxidant health benefits.  Even though the addiction from it is very mild compared to other opiate types I still have plans to kick and only use once or twice a week.  I'm now researching nootropics and such to fill in the gaps in a healthy way.  I've come across some potentially great substances that I have just ordered for experimentation. All perfectly legal which removes that hassle.  PM me if you want to know more.  Nootropics are great for the aging brain as they are neuroprotective and can increase concentration and retention.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Icelander]
    #19418244 - 01/14/14 04:51 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

I take Piracetam with Choline, on M, W, and F. I use Acetyl L-Carnitine on T, Th. On Saturday, I was using Pramiracetam that was a gift from Shroomerite Anominis when he visited us. When that began to run out, I purchased some more on line, but instead of inducing me to read for 6-7 hours, it seems to have made me sleepy. So I bought some Sulbutiamine, which was said to catalyze more of an effect (but it didn't seem to). I'm still on the M-F routine though. It seems important to take extra Choline with the racetam noogenics. I also take 100 mg of L-Theanine for taking the edge off normal anxiety, and 200 mg if I'm particularly unnerved. I came home to find a message from my physician's office that my AST liver enzyme came back elevated. That alternate with my ASL enzyme being elevated. So anyway, he wants me to have an ultrasound of my liver to check for a lesion. I'm hoping the elevation was from having done a vigorous workout, since muscle damage can result in such elevation (and I have some residual aches and pains). At any rate, my death-anxiety will now increase until I (hopefully) turn up a negative result.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19418472 - 01/14/14 05:30 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

I'm trying out.

Noopept

Phenibut

Baicalin

Oleamide

Magnolia Bark Extract

L-Theanine


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19418539 - 01/14/14 05:42 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

I hope so MtG. Now that you're retired, I wish you at a decade or two of totally light, playful, intellectual fun, and not the fight of your life.  Life is probably more scary than death, as you recently linked a post on FB by Ram Dass about how death is absolutely safe. Maybe you're more worried about spending the rest of your life in an increasingly painful limbo - a decade or two of that may as well be eternity. I  know you said your dad lived to a very old age, surviving an endless series of serious health complications... But look at that Ram Dass character, he survived this massive stroke and many health complications, yet still has written a couple books, I attended a 4hr workshop of his, and experienced an uncanny high when meeting him.

My hope for you is that once you're a very old man, if diagnosed with a big illness, you could go up onto a mountain to spend your days quietly, contemplatively phasing out of the material world.  But now you have plenty of attachments, a wife etc., things you desire to live for.  My bet is you'll fight for it, and likely be around for a good bit of time.  I just hope nothing puts a squeeze on your consciousness, and I don't think any bad news would necessarily have to.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #19418953 - 01/14/14 06:49 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

Ah...You're waxing more morbid than is necessary. My physician tends to be overly cautious, and I'm hoping that is all that's going on. I feel fine, and my other numbers are probably in range. They were in July. My mind  creates the worst possible scenario. Please don't add to it. One does not need to remove oneself from one's karmic predicament to practice detachment, but I'd prefer to die later than sooner. My dad lived to 86, but his uncle lived to 106.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19419028 - 01/14/14 07:02 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

:blush: Oh, I am most certainly not a medical practitioner, and biopsies in relationship to liver lesions are next to meaningless to me. I thought you were worried about something that seemed obvious in my mind, particularly when you were talking about death anxiety, but clearly wasn't. I really do apologize for that dude.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #19419088 - 01/14/14 07:12 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
Ah...You're waxing more morbid than is necessary. My physician tends to be overly cautious, and I'm hoping that is all that's going on. I feel fine, and my other numbers are probably in range. They were in July. My mind  creates the worst possible scenario. Please don't add to it. One does not need to remove oneself from one's karmic predicament to practice detachment, but I'd prefer to die later than sooner. My dad lived to 86, but his uncle lived to 106.





Just have your liver removed. Then you won't have to worry about it. They are about as necessary as your appendix or so I've heard. :haha:

My brother in law just got the word today that his fight against chemotherapy (er I mean cancer) is lost. They give him a couple weeks to a couple months. They still want him to do more chemo though. :facepalm:  IMO they make psychopaths look like the fairy godmother.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: I think I need to stifle my libido for my spiritual development [Re: Icelander]
    #19419106 - 01/14/14 07:16 PM (10 years, 16 days ago)

Or maybe trade your heart in for another liver so you can drink more and care less :cookiemonster:

The dude wants levity, let's give it to him.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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