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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: BigGreenMat]
    #19401806 - 01/11/14 12:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Pasty, I think you should have watered as soon as you saw your first pin.  I think that was a big mistake.




Was just staying on tek. But I got nothin to lose.

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? That doesn't tell us the depth of the sub heh, the other containers should also be measured, so we can correlate the amount of substrate in total for both the control and the treatment groups.




Shouldn't matter, we know the volume of the spawn which was to be the constant based upon the premise of the v tek advantage. That is our constant. Nonetheless you can have photos, measurements, depths I don't care. Just not tonight. I'm done with pics this evening :lol:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19402164 - 01/11/14 02:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ok, so violet proved v tek skill.
pasty proved a bulk.

trolls  prove emboldened,
and the community realizes its almost impossible to establish standards.

overall im proud of pasty.
pure bravery to make the attempt.
had your v-tek hit stride , you would have been severely attacked.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: anne halonium]
    #19402185 - 01/11/14 03:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

nobody would have attacked him, we still would have said"good shit pasty!", thats how we roll in the not so new but proven age:wink:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19402199 - 01/11/14 03:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I see that you used the same amount of rye, but in the tub you added bulk to the spawn?

Is there the same amount of material for each group?

You could just take a picture of both groups side by side.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19402258 - 01/11/14 03:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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nobody would have attacked him, we still would have said"good shit pasty!", thats how we roll in the not so new but proven age;)




i find that hard to believe.
you act like peeps are swayed by pictures and honest results and science..........

lets assume pasty did the perfect tek for both bulk and v-tek.
i would be shocked if his ignores didnt skyrocket,
and he wasnt savaged by dozens.
we all know it.

violet proved v-tek.
pasty proved bulks.
pasty also proved no one is interested in changing their minds.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: anne halonium]
    #19402333 - 01/11/14 04:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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nobody would have attacked him, we still would have said"good shit pasty!", thats how we roll in the not so new but proven age;)




i find that hard to believe.




whats so hard to believe, i already said good job even on this one:shrug:something you can't bite your tounge and say yourself, a valiant effort as far as i'm concerned. your just pissy because his tub did better (so far)but not all of us are making this a competition or trying to sway people to "our" method, quit acting like a butthurt little schoolgirl and say "ok cron i'll be a good little shroomerite" and be supportive of people once in awhile instead of the piss poor attitude you like to carry and maybe you won't get another hundred people ignore you, i know next to nuthing about much with this hobby yet have just as many positive ratings as you have people ignoring you and not cause i'm smart, just nice:cool:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #19402345 - 01/11/14 04:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

wow, what a faux news spin.

i see it more like ive suggested all along,
bulkers mostly lack the skill for a solid V tek,
thats been definitely proven.

peeps are routinely attacked for disproving dogma here.
nice is defined  here  by "agreeable to the lowest paradigm standard" ,
it has nothing to do with polite facts.

peeps are wise to this kinda stuff now,
you absolutely jest if ya think anyone can produce facts,
and be taken seriously if it goes against the dogma grain.

i think its sorta insulting,
you would expect the sane community to believe you on that cronic.

im proud of pastys effort.
and glad he cant do an honest v -tek
you guys would have destroyed his rep if he did.
many of you would have given him the rudest treatment.
you would have distorted his results , and slandered him,
and played him like he was a traitor.

thats YOUR definition of nice.
dont lie and say otherwise.
in the matTer of fact DO, cuz thats whats done here, attack what ya dont wanna hear, and claim " someones being mean"
yawn.


pasty, ya did good. thanx.
ya exposed ALOT.
i think more of you as a grower, and a person for this thread.
whatever methods you choose, your alright by me.
you choose to test things, and experience, rather than armchair pose.
and its noble.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: anne halonium]
    #19402369 - 01/11/14 04:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

1 last statement lol
nobody would ever attack pasty even if he had started with spores to a lc and the bucket tek and fluked out and got only 3 fruits out of a 66 qt tub, but thats because we all know him to be a good genuine guy, you catch flak because of your attitude not your skill
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wow, what a faux news spin.

i see it more like ive suggested all along,
bulkers mostly lack the skill for a solid V tek,
thats been definitely proven.





THIS!i appreciate the fact that you want people to succeed but until you knock the shit off nobody is gonna listen to you and frankly violets method probably would have already blown up if it wasn't for your crap, i'd rather grow trich and hear"chin up cron there's always a next time" from frank then grow a few fruits from a pp5 and hear
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i see it more like ive suggested all along,
bulkers mostly lack the skill for a solid V tek,
thats been definitely proven.





keep up the good work anne, you got some mad skills and i don't deny that, but i also don't give two shits. sorry pasty i don't mean to bring the bullshit to your thread


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19402388 - 01/11/14 04:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ive made my point.
and i think everyone posting on this thread has also.

im out.
once again, thx for your effort pasty.
you shall always be a serious practitioner questing for truth to me.

and i am , certainly glad, ya didnt prove the dogma wrong,
or they would do ya like anyone else that offends ego.

fold, all:heart: the luv.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: anne halonium]
    #19402393 - 01/11/14 04:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

good night anne:thumbup: and when the hell are you gonna release your tek:whistling:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19402396 - 01/11/14 04:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ill PM you first.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: anne halonium]
    #19402398 - 01/11/14 04:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:rockon:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: cronicr]
    #19402589 - 01/11/14 07:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

pasty has helped so many ppl on here in many different threads that i highly doubt anyone would come down on him/ignore him/bash him if his v tek experiment went better than his bulk experiment.  in fact, i'd actually guess that he has enough support/trust/friends here that anyone who DID knock him for that would get THEIR asses ignored, and rightly so


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19402776 - 01/11/14 08:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just find all of to be a great showcase of knowledge that Pasty , anne, violet, cronier, and some others in this thread. It has some of the" look man I ain't falling for no banana in my tailpipe" syndrome because for someone to change their tek, something that has produced fruits for them in the past it can be too stressful for most to deal with when they need results for an ego boost. I enjoy the learning new things thays one of the funnest things about Mycology, so many ways to come up with fruits. This is information about just that don't go and change your whole system of fruiting until you can figure out how a new tek works for you. I hope that people don't get turned off from trying new teks and talk about their experiance,THATS WHY I JOIN THE SHROOMERY, not to say my method is better and you can never pull off what I can do, I hope I never get to that point. I enjoy everones input on here and value slot of what both sides (bulk vs. vtek) has to offer. Great job on the THREAD everyone...


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: sololas]
    #19403094 - 01/11/14 10:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Its funny with mushrooms. The fungus each tells us how to properly grow it. It dont matter which technique you use. As violet mentioned it takes time to hone in a tek. You have to observe variables for a great deal of time to maximize your results.

In the end tenacity is what proves most productive, and less the technique.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Sillyputty67]
    #19403330 - 01/11/14 11:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just throwing this out there-

Couldn't small variables effect how mushrooms are going to respond to different methods?

Barometric pressure? Lunar cycles? Light spectrum based on season? Geographic location? Etc?

Yes, cubensis is very domesticated, and able to grow under most ideal conditions.  I sometimes wonder what other factors take a role in the natural cycle that will work to either stimulate or hinder growth.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: teknix] * 1
    #19403359 - 01/11/14 11:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I see that you used the same amount of rye, but in the tub you added bulk to the spawn?

Is there the same amount of material for each group?

You could just take a picture of both groups side by side.




If you bothered to even read the write ups by Violet and the discussions that followed, you would understand that the amount of bulk material used is considered irrelevant to what this grow is trying to understand. One of the premises of V tek is that it will equally produce or outproduce based on the amount of spawn and only the amount of spawn used. The idea is that while the bulk does provide some nutrients, their contribution is offset by the energy required to recover from the shake and reestablish the colony.

I love how you blow up my inbox with :pm: all day telling me that you like my experiments, are jelly of my reishi (sorry to hear yours contamed), and would like me do your oven tek for you and post the results. Then you come here and trash my thread? Dude, I may not be a biologist, but you are certainly a troll.


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19403361 - 01/11/14 11:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:popcorn:

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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19403363 - 01/11/14 11:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:kelsoburn:

Yeah, he got banned from mush cult for a while because his posts are useless. I wouldn't pay him much mind :lmafo:


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Re: V-Tek meets Bulk [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #19403382 - 01/11/14 11:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

the oven tek thread is closed for being BS :shrug:


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