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LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits?
    #19401839 - 01/11/14 12:21 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Ive been burnt before twice and I got research chemicals so I gave up my "want" to try it, all I honestly felt was 20 mins of deep thoughts that I can achieve normally by just relaxing. Also the sources are very limited to me so do you guys who use this substance use test kits or do you trust your people.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19401844 - 01/11/14 12:23 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Whenever I find a new source, I always try to use test kits. My main LSD hookup has the best white on white i've ever seen in my life. I've bought quite a lot from him and i'm at the point where I know I can don't need to test his product. Though - every time I get a sheet, i give it a quick lick to make sure it's not bitter.
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MrHill]
    #19401881 - 01/11/14 12:31 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

the first one I had had a weird test, like having a copper sheet in your mouth, tasted like metal..


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19401953 - 01/11/14 12:50 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I am a bit hesitant to trust myself without a test kit, but unfortunately I have not ordered one yet. I do plan to in the near future, though.

I have been pretty lucky in knowing people that will not sell anything they wouldn't eat themselves. I tried 25i-NBOMe just to see what all the fuss was about, but I found it to be a very lacking experience. The paper was very bitter and metallic, and I am glad that I know the taste in case I get ripped off someday! I am thankful for being lucky with lady Lucy, though...:heart:


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19401967 - 01/11/14 12:53 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

are LSD experiences more on the visual side or mental like shrooms, also by saying visual I mean open eye visuals


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19402298 - 01/11/14 04:05 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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are LSD experiences more on the visual side or mental like shrooms, also by saying visual I mean open eye visuals




I would say LSD is less mental then Mushrooms, but it varies from trip to trip & dose to dose.  :shrug:


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19402344 - 01/11/14 04:33 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

what? there are really test kits for LSD? reliable quick testing kits for a substance you get in microgram doses? I actually thought the detection of lsd requires some serious effort and some expensive laboratory equipment.

If such tests are on the market, they may be just a ripoff that doesn´t really work? Or do they actually just check for phenethylamines and such stuff that is sometimes used as a substitute for real lsd?

however, i don´t really have a real connection to buy from, i just got some once from someone more experienced who knew what it was because he tried it before, so i trusted him. i wouldn´t really like to buy psychedelics from a commercial trader whom i do not really know, because i don´t like the thought that i maybe would have to worry about something like food safety issues with possibly unprofessionally dried mushrooms while waiting for the trip to start... or what kind of substance that really was on that on sugar cube that i just ingested. Anyways I think these substances are actually a bit too holy to be commercial trading goods.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19402355 - 01/11/14 04:36 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Test kit, always.

Unless your source is a long term and trusted one, then it might not be as necessary, but there's no reason not to test what you have.

Better safe than sorry.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Rauhfasertapete]
    #19402357 - 01/11/14 04:37 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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what? there are really test kits for LSD? reliable quick testing kits for a substance you get in microgram doses?




Yes, reagent test kits, and they're cheap, to boot.

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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19403014 - 01/11/14 10:05 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Lsd is extremely visual and mental for me but far more gentle than mushrooms


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: allseeingike]
    #19403035 - 01/11/14 10:11 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Lsd is extremely visual and mental for me but far more gentle than mushrooms




This is pretty much how they both work on me, too.

Mushrooms usually slap me in the face and sit me down on the couch for some forceful universal knowledge. :lol:


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19403041 - 01/11/14 10:12 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I use my tongue on a single tab to start.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19403063 - 01/11/14 10:16 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Lsd is extremely visual and mental for me but far more gentle than mushrooms




This is pretty much how they both work on me, too.

Mushrooms usually slap me in the face and sit me down on the couch for some forceful universal knowledge. :lol:




Mushrooms can be more of a mindfuck, that's for sure.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19403153 - 01/11/14 10:40 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Lsd is extremely visual and mental for me but far more gentle than mushrooms




This is pretty much how they both work on me, too.

Mushrooms usually slap me in the face and sit me down on the couch for some forceful universal knowledge. :lol:




Yeah, they can be assholes like that.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Allisterem]
    #19403185 - 01/11/14 10:46 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

I only get it from a trusted source so no, i have never tested it. Are the tests accurate?


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: ByTor]
    #19404787 - 01/11/14 05:01 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

I used to test kit.

but now I have such a reliable source that kits are useless, it is good to have a stable lucy connect.

But yes new person = test kit for certain.

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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19405084 - 01/11/14 06:15 PM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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Yes, reagent test kits, and they're cheap, to boot.

http://www.bunkpolice.org





Do the test kits have any kind of expiration date or do they last indefinitely if left in storage? I have never used one before...


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19406891 - 01/12/14 04:39 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

these tests are actually quite simple. its just a dye that is ued to make ay kind of indole derivates visible. however, to get a positive result on LSD you may either need to waste a huge amount of LSD (because you probably couldn´t see a few 100 micrograms of dissolved dyed substance with the bare eye) or it would have to be highly impure lsd which has multiple times more indole-derived byproducts in it than lsd. and a positive result could also mean that its something completely different than lsd, but with some impurities in it. Indoles are everywhere in nature; i assume even a crumb of soil would give you a positive result in such a test.

but if they´re cheap, better than nothing.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Rauhfasertapete]
    #19406934 - 01/12/14 05:05 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

I have a pretty trusted source so don't test atm. Im still guessing if it's real L or not but I'm on the good side, as far as what concern trip timings and tastes. Im guessing because I still cant believe L is still around, what a bless!!


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Brown Buffalo]
    #19406949 - 01/12/14 05:15 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

what? you can taste lsd?


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Rauhfasertapete]
    #19406982 - 01/12/14 05:37 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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what? you can taste lsd?



No. No one can taste LSD.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Rauhfasertapete]
    #19406993 - 01/12/14 05:43 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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what? you can taste lsd?




I can taste its tastelessness!


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19407014 - 01/12/14 05:53 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

OP, the urge to try LSD is not worth the chance of subjecting your brain to unresearched chemicals that IMO, cause brain damage. Stick with mushrooms until you find a 100% reliable source. I always thought this was bullshit until I found LSD but the saying goes: You don't find lucy, lucy finds you. So, IME it's best to sit back and enjoy life until the inevitable happens and this beautiful subtance winds up in your possesion. And then you trip the fuck out!!!! :rockon:


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Webster10]
    #19407043 - 01/12/14 06:07 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

this obviously doesn´t make sense, but it actually works that way. May the Kismet make some of the good stuff find its way to OP!


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19407673 - 01/12/14 10:16 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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I use my tongue on a single tab to start.




this normally, although i do have test kits.  only use those if i cant take one first. Unfortunately i got burned earlier this summer by not following this rule.  Even through a trusted source.  Was supposed to be the same thing i had eaten at phish but turned out to be 25i i think.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Brown Buffalo]
    #19407703 - 01/12/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

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what? you can taste lsd?




I can taste its tastelessness!





if its tasteless, the duration roughly matches, and its got that good ol lysergic magic to it, then its lsd.  I havent read or had any experiences with rc's being able to replicate it in any way.  Granted i havent tried anywhere as close to as many as others. Including the newer lsd analoges so they may be similar. But imo lsd is just something so special, that once youve had that feeling a few good times, its unmistakable.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Kief Ledger]
    #19407704 - 01/12/14 10:24 AM (10 years, 19 days ago)

I without a doubt trust my source, although there was a time in my life I don't feel like I could have said that.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Webster10] * 2
    #19407911 - 01/12/14 11:16 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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You don't find lucy, lucy finds you. So, IME it's best to sit back and enjoy life until the inevitable happens and this beautiful subtance winds up in your possesion. And then you trip the fuck out!!!! :rockon:





THIS, this is why I turn on any friend of mine who hasn't tried it. Nothing like someone dosing you that first magical dose, free of charge, with nothing but love.

I am actually one of those "take a vial to a festie and dose heads out" kind of people. Have done it more than my fair share of times. That and hippie hill. I take a vial to SF when I visit and try to spread love on hippie hill.

LSD is love, should be spread with love, laid with love, handled with love and taken in love.

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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Darkenshroom]
    #19408805 - 01/12/14 03:22 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

Well I would have a more difficult time trusting free LSD to be honest.. lol


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19408840 - 01/12/14 03:31 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Well I would have a more difficult time trusting free LSD to be honest.. lol




I really like the idea to give free psychedelics to everyone. Those who don´t believe that it is real LSD should be given some mushrooms instead.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19408910 - 01/12/14 03:47 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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Well I would have a more difficult time trusting free LSD to be honest.. lol



The best LSD I have gotten has been free. People who are in it to make money, a lot of times don't care whether it's LSD or a research chemical. But those who sell real LSD , do it a lot of times just to spread the love, as cheesy as that sounds. At festivals and gatherings, you can find someone to dose you out for free almost whenever you want.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Darkenshroom]
    #19409093 - 01/12/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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You don't find lucy, lucy finds you. So, IME it's best to sit back and enjoy life until the inevitable happens and this beautiful subtance winds up in your possesion. And then you trip the fuck out!!!! :rockon:





THIS, this is why I turn on any friend of mine who hasn't tried it. Nothing like someone dosing you that first magical dose, free of charge, with nothing but love.

I am actually one of those "take a vial to a festie and dose heads out" kind of people. Have done it more than my fair share of times. That and hippie hill. I take a vial to SF when I visit and try to spread love on hippie hill.

LSD is love, should be spread with love, laid with love, handled with love and taken in love.

Yup,
Darken.



Took me a bit of time and some NBOMe's to get here, but I now have a source who does his work for love and gives me extremely good prices for extremely good products. I'm buying a sheet soon and all of the greedy dealers are going to have to compete with a price they can't beat; free. :heart:


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Darkenshroom]
    #19409645 - 01/12/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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You don't find lucy, lucy finds you. So, IME it's best to sit back and enjoy life until the inevitable happens and this beautiful subtance winds up in your possesion. And then you trip the fuck out!!!! :rockon:





THIS, this is why I turn on any friend of mine who hasn't tried it. Nothing like someone dosing you that first magical dose, free of charge, with nothing but love.

I am actually one of those "take a vial to a festie and dose heads out" kind of people. Have done it more than my fair share of times. That and hippie hill. I take a vial to SF when I visit and try to spread love on hippie hill.

LSD is love, should be spread with love, laid with love, handled with love and taken in love.

Yup,
Darken.





Agreed man! Nice to hear.

I gave my friend a tab for free yesterday; it'll be his first L experience and it's the same batch I had my first experience with.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19410257 - 01/12/14 09:23 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

Many of my firsts were free, of my experiences let me see.

First Dose...Free given with love and told to enjoy 3 Orange Suns, originals in the early 90s.

First Puddle...Free, taken in by family and let to melt in their loving presence. SF when I was 18 at a Festie.

First Thumbprint...Free, given by a family member I had known for years in Santa Cruz. Me and my partner right around 2000.

LSD is one thing if I had enough to give it away to everyone I met who wanted some I would.

Sadly I am not that wealthy so I do as I can and take an occasional vial or sheet and spread it out.

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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Darkenshroom]
    #19410409 - 01/12/14 10:16 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

When i got research chemicals once I started searching alot afterwards about the availability of LSD in the current days and I found that the supply is pretty much dry and rare to come by it but its nice to hear so many replies from people who use it


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19410425 - 01/12/14 10:22 PM (10 years, 18 days ago)

i have reagents, but i dont have to use them thank god.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: c0exist] * 1
    #19410882 - 01/13/14 01:26 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

With the lack of real LSD in my area, I test any new batch I see. People sadly aren't just trustworthy. Now in SF I know people who are MORE than trustworthy in these ways, and I don't have to test it from them.

As for spreading the LoveSD around, I completely agree. In fact in the next few months I'm going to shoot for buying a sheet, just so I have doses when wanted or when a good friend wants to too. Turning on people is just too fun. To sit around with them and relax until they get that unmistakable face of "what is this?" on them makes me happy.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Godfather1376]
    #19410965 - 01/13/14 02:15 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

I've seen so much nbome going around I have to test every new source. 5/6 connections I went through were selling nbome as "acid"


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: aler]
    #19411415 - 01/13/14 07:00 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

someone recently told me they had really good acid when i asked them about the taste they immidietly said well its a research chemical but its the same shhit basically it makes you trip


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: allseeingike]
    #19411507 - 01/13/14 07:51 AM (10 years, 18 days ago)

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allseeingike said:
someone recently told me they had really good acid when i asked them about the taste they immidietly said well its a research chemical but its the same shhit basically it makes you trip





No it not at all the "same shit". There's a huge difference between the tryptamines lsd25/ald52 and shit like 25i-NBOME. A lot of the "acid" going around is just that, since its so much cheaper and a lot of people think its the "same shit, cuz it makes you trip", there's no point in suppliers even buying real L for the average moron customer (people who "just wanna trip" and don't know how to order NBOME for cheap themselves. Anyway, LSD can be tested for both by reagent and by backlight. If you get a vial, shine it under a backlight for just a split second (not more than that) and if its real, it'll light up like a glowstick. If liquid doesn't light up, it's not L.

Differences: no real history on NBOME, one is a tryptamine, another is a phenethylamine 2ci-derivative. And I have nothing against regular 2cx. In fact 2cc is quite awesome, but I'm not referring to 2cc-NBOME. But even classic 2cx require much more in the way of safety guidelines than LSD. One needs to know the product is pure, to have a scale, and even then, there is a much lower safety margin (as most of you know, LSD does not have a realistic LD50) but the 2c's and all phens do, and this danger is multiplied at least 10x for the NBOME chemicals. If you are of the belief that you shouldn't ingest random chemicals, stay away from street drugs like "Molly" (usually methylone) and acid (which unfortunately became just as adulterated, wasn't like this 5 years ago) unless you have a hookup online in Germany or somewhere not in the US. I've read some recent pillreports and ecstasydata.org does show that there's some real stuff in the area. But there are also newer psychedelic rc's which can masquerade as L. However, with these newer ones, no one will ever know the difference, but they're actually related to LSD, and I won't mention by name, I know some people here are 16 or under. But at least the new LSD "substitutes" (which have been going around, documented by the sites above) are a hell of a lot safer than the NBOMEs. They just won't be dirt cheap since even vendors have learned their lessons, and there won't be much reselling these new lysergic amides because vendors are only selling them by the blotter for street prices. A lot of acid may still end up being THAT STUFF, which actually isn't necessarily a bad thing (it being cheaper than LSD, but there won't be a huge explosion like with NBOME).

There are some cool RC psychedelics out there, just not the NBOMES


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Fractal420]
    #19414579 - 01/13/14 09:28 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

^^^^ I think that was the point of the thread..
And there's nothing exactly wrong with NBOMe's, they're a cool substance. I don't use them because I don't like the potential side effects, just like I don't do other drugs because of the same reasons, but that doesn't mean they're garbage.
They just get a bad rep being sold as acid all the time.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MrHill]
    #19414864 - 01/13/14 10:29 PM (10 years, 17 days ago)

Once I have had the same batch several times I don't bother.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MrHill]
    #19416467 - 01/14/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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^^^^ I think that was the point of the thread..
And there's nothing exactly wrong with NBOMe's, they're a cool substance. I don't use them because I don't like the potential side effects, just like I don't do other drugs because of the same reasons, but that doesn't mean they're garbage.
They just get a bad rep being sold as acid all the time.




You are correct, by themselves, if you get it knowingly and know the source, the purity, the dose, and are responsible etc. there is nothing wrong with researching ANY psychoactive. Just that most people without real harm reduction knowledge don't understand some of this stuff, and they think doing acid is...doing acid. Or doing Molly is simply doing Molly. It must be MDMA.

I'm glad that with the more recent LADs vendors are only selling them by individual units, not as raw powder, to prevent another NBOME/Methylone-style health and media problem (even kind of an epidemic in some areas)


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MrHill]
    #19416509 - 01/14/14 09:42 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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Parrott said:
^^^^ I think that was the point of the thread..
And there's nothing exactly wrong with NBOMe's, they're a cool substance. I don't use them because I don't like the potential side effects, just like I don't do other drugs because of the same reasons, but that doesn't mean they're garbage.
They just get a bad rep being sold as acid all the time.



I disagree. NBOMe's are horrible, IMO.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Webster10]
    #19416521 - 01/14/14 09:43 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

I don't think I really "hate" NBOMes, but I hate that they are sold as acid.

If I were to describe NBOMes from my experience, it would be "Eh." :lol:


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MindDrips]
    #19416533 - 01/14/14 09:45 AM (10 years, 17 days ago)

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MindDrips said:
I don't think I really "hate" NBOMes, but I hate that they are sold as acid.

If I were to describe NBOMes from my experience, it would be "Eh." :lol:



Add "Bl" to your responce and you have mine :lmafo:


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19421951 - 01/15/14 09:13 AM (10 years, 16 days ago)

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Well I would have a more difficult time trusting free LSD to be honest.. lol




Its usually the opposite.. any LSD I've ever gotten for free has always been good, and bomb!
Its weird, but alot of people with LSD connects good enough to give it away for free probally arent the type of people trying to get rich off of it.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Fractal420]
    #19423596 - 01/15/14 04:04 PM (10 years, 15 days ago)

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Fractal420 said:
Quote:

allseeingike said:
someone recently told me they had really good acid when i asked them about the taste they immidietly said well its a research chemical but its the same shhit basically it makes you trip





No it not at all the "same shit". There's a huge difference between the tryptamines lsd25/ald52 and shit like 25i-NBOME. A lot of the "acid" going around is just that, since its so much cheaper and a lot of people think its the "same shit, cuz it makes you trip", there's no point in suppliers even buying real L for the average moron customer (people who "just wanna trip" and don't know how to order NBOME for cheap themselves. Anyway, LSD can be tested for both by reagent and by backlight. If you get a vial, shine it under a backlight for just a split second (not more than that) and if its real, it'll light up like a glowstick. If liquid doesn't light up, it's not L.

Differences: no real history on NBOME, one is a tryptamine, another is a phenethylamine 2ci-derivative. And I have nothing against regular 2cx. In fact 2cc is quite awesome, but I'm not referring to 2cc-NBOME. But even classic 2cx require much more in the way of safety guidelines than LSD. One needs to know the product is pure, to have a scale, and even then, there is a much lower safety margin (as most of you know, LSD does not have a realistic LD50) but the 2c's and all phens do, and this danger is multiplied at least 10x for the NBOME chemicals. If you are of the belief that you shouldn't ingest random chemicals, stay away from street drugs like "Molly" (usually methylone) and acid (which unfortunately became just as adulterated, wasn't like this 5 years ago) unless you have a hookup online in Germany or somewhere not in the US. I've read some recent pillreports and ecstasydata.org does show that there's some real stuff in the area. But there are also newer psychedelic rc's which can masquerade as L. However, with these newer ones, no one will ever know the difference, but they're actually related to LSD, and I won't mention by name, I know some people here are 16 or under. But at least the new LSD "substitutes" (which have been going around, documented by the sites above) are a hell of a lot safer than the NBOMEs. They just won't be dirt cheap since even vendors have learned their lessons, and there won't be much reselling these new lysergic amides because vendors are only selling them by the blotter for street prices. A lot of acid may still end up being THAT STUFF, which actually isn't necessarily a bad thing (it being cheaper than LSD, but there won't be a huge explosion like with NBOME).

There are some cool RC psychedelics out there, just not the NBOMES




i know the difference between real lsd and rcs i was just quoting what someone had told me. i have yet to have a good experience on an RC like i do on the classic psychadelics. they all feel toxic and make my stomaach feel like shit ( some more than oothers ) the only RC i didnt have a problem with was 4acodmt but i could not sleep for over 8 hours after the trip ended even though i was dead tired


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: allseeingike]
    #19433952 - 01/17/14 04:18 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

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i know the difference between real lsd and rcs i was just quoting what someone had told me. i have yet to have a good experience on an RC like i do on the classic psychadelics. they all feel toxic and make my stomaach feel like shit ( some more than oothers ) the only RC i didnt have a problem with was 4acodmt but i could not sleep for over 8 hours after the trip ended even though i was dead tired




Some Lysergic compounds are RC's and actually are just as good as L but I don't think naming them is wise as they are relatively new and do not need extra attention. I always found 4aco to be very interesting and deep, and not all that different than mushies. It's a bit weirder, perhaps, but definitely interesting stuff. The 4hoxxx are also very interesting chemicals. Not all research chemicals are bad. I also like the desoxy-MDA compounds. it's the deceptive selling as other (traditional) drugs that pisses me off. Every time a person takes any chemical, they should know what the chemical is. (This is why I hate those spice blends, party pills, or any other concoction of unnamed chemicals. Even rolls are subject to this these days, perhaps even more so...not only is PMMA going around but I remember when a roll was either pure, mostly pure with a bit of speed, or just inactive, but relatively safe, even taking a random pill. There weren't many deaths when ecstasy was mostly pressed, discounting media hype and people who don't stay hydrated/drink alcohol excessively with their roll)


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Fractal420]
    #19433976 - 01/17/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

I have nothing against research chemicals, they are unique on their own. What I hate is when people take advantage of others by selling them crap instead of what they want, which is LSD most of the time.


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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
    #19434231 - 01/17/14 05:28 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

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I have nothing against research chemicals, they are unique on their own. What I hate is when people take advantage of others by selling them crap instead of what they want, which is LSD most of the time.




:thumbup: agreed (and MDMA)


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