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MrHill
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Fractal420]
#19414579 - 01/13/14 09:28 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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^^^^ I think that was the point of the thread.. And there's nothing exactly wrong with NBOMe's, they're a cool substance. I don't use them because I don't like the potential side effects, just like I don't do other drugs because of the same reasons, but that doesn't mean they're garbage. They just get a bad rep being sold as acid all the time.
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Seriously_trippin
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MrHill]
#19414864 - 01/13/14 10:29 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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Once I have had the same batch several times I don't bother.
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Fractal420
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MrHill]
#19416467 - 01/14/14 09:31 AM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Parrott said: ^^^^ I think that was the point of the thread.. And there's nothing exactly wrong with NBOMe's, they're a cool substance. I don't use them because I don't like the potential side effects, just like I don't do other drugs because of the same reasons, but that doesn't mean they're garbage. They just get a bad rep being sold as acid all the time.
You are correct, by themselves, if you get it knowingly and know the source, the purity, the dose, and are responsible etc. there is nothing wrong with researching ANY psychoactive. Just that most people without real harm reduction knowledge don't understand some of this stuff, and they think doing acid is...doing acid. Or doing Molly is simply doing Molly. It must be MDMA.
I'm glad that with the more recent LADs vendors are only selling them by individual units, not as raw powder, to prevent another NBOME/Methylone-style health and media problem (even kind of an epidemic in some areas)
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Webster10
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MrHill]
#19416509 - 01/14/14 09:42 AM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Parrott said: ^^^^ I think that was the point of the thread.. And there's nothing exactly wrong with NBOMe's, they're a cool substance. I don't use them because I don't like the potential side effects, just like I don't do other drugs because of the same reasons, but that doesn't mean they're garbage. They just get a bad rep being sold as acid all the time.
I disagree. NBOMe's are horrible, IMO.
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MindDrips
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Webster10]
#19416521 - 01/14/14 09:43 AM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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I don't think I really "hate" NBOMes, but I hate that they are sold as acid.
If I were to describe NBOMes from my experience, it would be "Eh."
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Webster10
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: MindDrips]
#19416533 - 01/14/14 09:45 AM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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MindDrips said: I don't think I really "hate" NBOMes, but I hate that they are sold as acid.
If I were to describe NBOMes from my experience, it would be "Eh." 
Add "Bl" to your responce and you have mine
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Kief Ledger
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
#19421951 - 01/15/14 09:13 AM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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bolbol said: Well I would have a more difficult time trusting free LSD to be honest.. lol
Its usually the opposite.. any LSD I've ever gotten for free has always been good, and bomb! Its weird, but alot of people with LSD connects good enough to give it away for free probally arent the type of people trying to get rich off of it.
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Fractal420]
#19423596 - 01/15/14 04:04 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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allseeingike said: someone recently told me they had really good acid when i asked them about the taste they immidietly said well its a research chemical but its the same shhit basically it makes you trip
No it not at all the "same shit". There's a huge difference between the tryptamines lsd25/ald52 and shit like 25i-NBOME. A lot of the "acid" going around is just that, since its so much cheaper and a lot of people think its the "same shit, cuz it makes you trip", there's no point in suppliers even buying real L for the average moron customer (people who "just wanna trip" and don't know how to order NBOME for cheap themselves. Anyway, LSD can be tested for both by reagent and by backlight. If you get a vial, shine it under a backlight for just a split second (not more than that) and if its real, it'll light up like a glowstick. If liquid doesn't light up, it's not L.
Differences: no real history on NBOME, one is a tryptamine, another is a phenethylamine 2ci-derivative. And I have nothing against regular 2cx. In fact 2cc is quite awesome, but I'm not referring to 2cc-NBOME. But even classic 2cx require much more in the way of safety guidelines than LSD. One needs to know the product is pure, to have a scale, and even then, there is a much lower safety margin (as most of you know, LSD does not have a realistic LD50) but the 2c's and all phens do, and this danger is multiplied at least 10x for the NBOME chemicals. If you are of the belief that you shouldn't ingest random chemicals, stay away from street drugs like "Molly" (usually methylone) and acid (which unfortunately became just as adulterated, wasn't like this 5 years ago) unless you have a hookup online in Germany or somewhere not in the US. I've read some recent pillreports and ecstasydata.org does show that there's some real stuff in the area. But there are also newer psychedelic rc's which can masquerade as L. However, with these newer ones, no one will ever know the difference, but they're actually related to LSD, and I won't mention by name, I know some people here are 16 or under. But at least the new LSD "substitutes" (which have been going around, documented by the sites above) are a hell of a lot safer than the NBOMEs. They just won't be dirt cheap since even vendors have learned their lessons, and there won't be much reselling these new lysergic amides because vendors are only selling them by the blotter for street prices. A lot of acid may still end up being THAT STUFF, which actually isn't necessarily a bad thing (it being cheaper than LSD, but there won't be a huge explosion like with NBOME).
There are some cool RC psychedelics out there, just not the NBOMES
i know the difference between real lsd and rcs i was just quoting what someone had told me. i have yet to have a good experience on an RC like i do on the classic psychadelics. they all feel toxic and make my stomaach feel like shit ( some more than oothers ) the only RC i didnt have a problem with was 4acodmt but i could not sleep for over 8 hours after the trip ended even though i was dead tired
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Fractal420
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: allseeingike]
#19433952 - 01/17/14 04:18 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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i know the difference between real lsd and rcs i was just quoting what someone had told me. i have yet to have a good experience on an RC like i do on the classic psychadelics. they all feel toxic and make my stomaach feel like shit ( some more than oothers ) the only RC i didnt have a problem with was 4acodmt but i could not sleep for over 8 hours after the trip ended even though i was dead tired
Some Lysergic compounds are RC's and actually are just as good as L but I don't think naming them is wise as they are relatively new and do not need extra attention. I always found 4aco to be very interesting and deep, and not all that different than mushies. It's a bit weirder, perhaps, but definitely interesting stuff. The 4hoxxx are also very interesting chemicals. Not all research chemicals are bad. I also like the desoxy-MDA compounds. it's the deceptive selling as other (traditional) drugs that pisses me off. Every time a person takes any chemical, they should know what the chemical is. (This is why I hate those spice blends, party pills, or any other concoction of unnamed chemicals. Even rolls are subject to this these days, perhaps even more so...not only is PMMA going around but I remember when a roll was either pure, mostly pure with a bit of speed, or just inactive, but relatively safe, even taking a random pill. There weren't many deaths when ecstasy was mostly pressed, discounting media hype and people who don't stay hydrated/drink alcohol excessively with their roll)
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bolbol
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: Fractal420]
#19433976 - 01/17/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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I have nothing against research chemicals, they are unique on their own. What I hate is when people take advantage of others by selling them crap instead of what they want, which is LSD most of the time.
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Fractal420
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Re: LSD users. Do you trust your sources or do you always use test kits? [Re: bolbol]
#19434231 - 01/17/14 05:28 PM (10 years, 13 days ago) |
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bolbol said: I have nothing against research chemicals, they are unique on their own. What I hate is when people take advantage of others by selling them crap instead of what they want, which is LSD most of the time.
agreed (and MDMA)
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Edited by Fractal420 (01/18/14 07:26 AM)
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