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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19400905 - 01/10/14 07:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.

—Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[12]






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Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means.

—Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[17]






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantian_ethics




i understand but disagree .. a human must act free and not limit himself to humanity .. humans are to conscious existence freedom rights and not to created condition meant to live consciously by some rules to generalize

objective rights is only what matter

like there could be only one thing right and then many things related to the same right would be absolutely positive reality because of that right being objective

while when objective fact is right, then necessarily present would be free so true existence values would be seen through individuals life and ways of beings




Acting free? Without consideration for others? So in your opinion is it OK to murder someone for no reason other than acting free? It seems like you state contradictory positions, at one point you are considering rights, but then you say only your rights matter and no one elses? If we are to consider others rights as well as our own, is that limiting or liberating? If you are considering others rights equally to your own, then you are basically agreeing with Kant.

I don't think you really understand what it is saying.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19401301 - 01/10/14 09:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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redgreenvines said:
ok you be god
I am napoleon




Nice to meet you, looks like we may be fairly similar.

:lol:





gertdern power predominates

only solutions :sun:



conflict an illusion?

Lyrics: Does man rule by his will
To choose how he lives
Are forces behind him
Pushing him still
Confusion - it's so clear
Illusion - here and there

Raven, hawk and the dove
Soar looking down from above
Evil, war and love
Which will alight on this world

A world full of conflict
Time patiently waits
Emotions directing
The choices he makes
Confusion - it's so clear
Illusion - here and there

Forces of the universe, taking aim
Spirit's eye, from on high, man is game

:whathesaid:

sounds an awful lot like me

true story


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"Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."


"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions."
-Thich Nhat Hanh
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"Experience always goes beyond ideas"


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
    #19401590 - 01/10/14 11:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If you investigate the circumstance you are in enough you will eventually find it is a simulation of some kind and you are a divinity, a manifestation of the supreme being.



This seems to be similar the understandings I sometimes pull from the womb of nothingness on my heaviest most profound psychedelic experiences, and somewhat through meditation.
Simulation is a good word, but it doesn't seem like a digital/cyber simulation such as in The Matrix, it seems more complex.
Sometimes I see myself in a mirror and it's a weird feeling, like I am not that person I'm looking at.
It's always a gift to read your posts Circastes.




A gift!? Those are kind words. I tend to think posts of mine over a year old are generally just great examples of thought disorders, but lately I've been a lot more clear.

Interesting that you have that feeling about the mirror... reminds me of myself big time.

I say simulation because it is some kind of intellectual construct, it is not a physical universe. And coming out of body or having OBE-type experiences in the middle of the night I find there to be design and teleology everywhere. Why am I being fear tested before I leave my body? To prove I am sincere enough to want to explore this other dimension? Bizarre...


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19401679 - 01/10/14 11:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The universe is god.  The universe is made of consciousness.  Consciousness is god.  You are conscious.  You are god.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: greenterror]
    #19401969 - 01/11/14 12:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Would it be more adequate to say that you are a part of god rather than god?

I like that train of thought though.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19402157 - 01/11/14 02:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

There is only one self.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19402184 - 01/11/14 03:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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There is only one self.



Infinite, alternate universes? The fact that people change, in every way, over time.. thus die with each expereance.... and reborn an other person..


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And thus begins the  reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icyus]
    #19402233 - 01/11/14 03:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't discount that by saying there is only one self. It's just a fact of experience. First you should inquire who you are, and you will find by knowing yourself, and the simultaneous act by 'an other' in knowing themselves, that if you meet your gazes properly you will find you both came to recognise the same self in your inquiry. It's not really a mystical thing, although there is nothing really ordinary about being the supreme being - since who else could this one self be?


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
    #19402252 - 01/11/14 03:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Acting free? Without consideration for others? So in your opinion is it OK to murder someone for no reason other than acting free? It seems like you state contradictory positions, at one point you are considering rights, but then you say only your rights matter and no one elses? If we are to consider others rights as well as our own, is that limiting or liberating? If you are considering others rights equally to your own, then you are basically agreeing with Kant.

I don't think you really understand what it is saying.




so you understand and not me, right ??

because to you right is a gift, right ??

so everyone must be right and it is true ???

why ?? because, if everyone is not right, wrong will exist ????

so we must generalize wrong in depth by conceiving right in form, from you right??? or the dead kant ??? to avoid wrong one being shown of his intent ????

it is you who don't know anything ...

how things are shown according to you ?? is freedom individually or not ??? if freedom is individually how can it realize objective things reality ??? or it is impossible ???


I keep telling you, freedom and objective reality are totally different dimensions ... that is how liars are the best leaders .. and things are livings because fake .. inherently from creations way of abusing truth knowledge for positive possession

you didn't understand what I just wrote for sure .. it doesn't matter

what matter here to me, is my opinion right, you are wrong in insulting me, because I disagree with what a dead philosopher said ...

I proved how it is you the self contradicting actor of anything ... and how all your means are for god through picking any excuses of deads claiming it being right sciences to support now of you ??? which is absurd, when you cant defend your god  the everything and everyone  conscious existence by any real living being fact and of you !

which prove that you know, how god is only existence knowledge abuse

like any leader of the world

the vice is your belief.. everyone is not the you willing to possess positive existence .. positive existence is what exist not possessing it !



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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: circastes]
    #19402700 - 01/11/14 07:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't discount that by saying there is only one self. It's just a fact of experience. First you should inquire who you are, and you will find by knowing yourself, and the simultaneous act by 'an other' in knowing themselves, that if you meet your gazes properly you will find you both came to recognise the same self in your inquiry. It's not really a mystical thing, although there is nothing really ordinary about being the supreme being - since who else could this one self be?




How about an emergent property of brain function? :monkeydance:

You do go on and on about shit you have no evidence for and you proclaim it like it's natural law.  But imo you are fos.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Icelander]
    #19403019 - 01/11/14 10:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

In observing natural law, your angle may not provide the same perspective as mine.
But if we consolidate views, circastes is not making very many errors and may closely approximate a consensual description if such a thing were possible.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19403033 - 01/11/14 10:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Indeed.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19403190 - 01/11/14 10:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

one love one soul

I like bob marley and pink floyd ;-)


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: lessismore]
    #19403286 - 01/11/14 11:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

you are a soul more then being somebody obviously ! how could the existence of a soul being true or just one ?? no ways .. soul is by definition fake living individuality in being positive through powers of beings wills creations ends

that is why, the more an individual love god and life the more he is a soul .. the more an individual like atheists don't enjoy the sense of god the more they are free beings means .. which are targeted to get killed .. but it is impossible

god by meaning to support fake beings conscious saw for sure that all positive conscious created would want to be like him and not what he wants them to be
because truth exist, so everything is seen.. so the creator is known being a business entity of knowledge so the free will would see how it is the only positive possible other then truth

so how satan actually revealed being god existence one identity more then god freedom

existence is true, never a dream .. dreamers are who knows that creations are abusive to true existence facts
like how rich people usually behave with less fortunate, forcing ownerships of the place

that is why any true freedom would walk exclusively by recognizing else facts in truth of being .. by that, any individuality is through being real then only 








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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19403308 - 01/11/14 11:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Man your writing warps my mind.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19403341 - 01/11/14 11:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ochh, don't encourage him


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19403374 - 01/11/14 11:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's a bad warp.  Like I can't decipher or wrap my mind around anything being said.


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19403900 - 01/11/14 01:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I knew it was hypocrite that is why I didn't reply
man my ass  :cuteshit:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19403950 - 01/11/14 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:devito:


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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
    #19403979 - 01/11/14 01:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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why are you asking me anything when you admit that I am a subjective opinion about everything like everyone else does

there is no absolute truth at all, but anyone is free to claim what is positively true for him

while edges are always obvious things ..

to me one so the absence of else is the major reason of negative source and opposition force to positive rights and facts

while the objective recognition of else existence is always the print of absolute superiority that always end in being positive present right



you don't see those edges .. it is not my problem .. nor that what I am saying here concern me in anything

i don't give myself the right to give my opinions about everything but regarding what others are saying wrong to me
so what i consider how i can say something objectively absolutely better in positive value

speculations for better abstractions is the conscious function activity on a regular present basics of being

positive is all means, so the absolute free fact .. proven by life sense

your ways of meaning everything are totally different to mine, i don't make business with things .. nor that i care about any end

to me any individual is only himself so nothing to everything and totally else as a unique fact and possible value


..

It uses big words and can spell quite well....but it puts these words together in a very strange way. Where does it come from?

Tymethyl, can u decipher and compress thes mystical codes?


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