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hookahhead
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Conquering your FEAR 1
#19400989 - 01/10/14 08:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Test 16: The PASSION of the Cacti.
Without LIGHT, there is no LIFE To those of you who feel surrounded by DARKNESS SHINE BRIGHT LIKE A DIAMOND! And BE the beacon of HOPE 

Now that I have your attention. I have told you countless times I haven't given you anything NEW Besides a way to THINK Therefore I AM
I RECYCLED an ORGANIC burlap sac that I acquired for FREE. It will eventually DECOMPOSE.
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-burlap.htm
Air Layering is common way to propagate plants. http://www.instructables.com/id/Propagating-Plants-by-Air-Layering/
Cacti ARE Plants!
Caution: This will not work with WATER BALLOONS, only with the XLSCG system, and only in the PRESENT.
Edited by hookahhead (01/10/14 09:46 PM)
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: hookahhead]
#19401004 - 01/10/14 08:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow,that's a new one to me man I gotta try this when I get more plants to work with for sure!
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SuperD
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: hookahhead]
#19401044 - 01/10/14 08:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bookmarked. Am I wrong here or does it appear to be a method of ensuring a cutting is rooted before it's even cut from the parent plant? I've had several small cuttings in the past die on me before they ever rooted so I'm going to be trying this soon as I have quite a few I want to take a cutting of but don't want to risk losing. I cut quite a few very small TBM pups off my mother plant last year and after 9+ months of no roots, many shriveled and one rotted.
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hookahhead
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: SuperD]
#19401052 - 01/10/14 08:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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SUPER DUPER DOUBLE D your 100% correct! I will remove this plant from it's stalk. Then pot (in soil) the WHOLE thing! You just have to remember to keep it moist enough for it to root.
ALL OF THIS NEW AGE SHIT IS CRAZY!
-------------------- "My worm farm" "96 Gallon Worm Tote" "Let Your Freak Flag Fly" "Respect Your Roots" "A KNEW IDEA"
"Nothing New" "Willkommen im EthnoGarten" "Don't Be a Backeberg" "Mites and Mealy Bugs" "The Heart and the Sun"
If someone doesn't want your LIGHT, shine it some where else. Everyday there are people who LOVE, ACCEPT, and LOOK FORWARD to making CONTACT with you. YOU are capable of GREAT THINGS even if you feel neglected or mistreated in OUR current SPACE. Change your ways, change our WORLD, there is SAFTEY in NUMBERS. Welcome to the PRESENT. ~ 144,000 Anonymous Voices “Call it a clan, call it a network, call it a tribe, call it a family: Whatever you call it, whoever you are, you need one. [NOW]” - Jane Howard
Edited by hookahhead (01/10/14 08:41 PM)
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modern.shaman
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: SuperD] 1
#19401123 - 01/10/14 08:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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SuperD said: Bookmarked. Am I wrong here or does it appear to be a method of ensuring a cutting is rooted before it's even cut from the parent plant? I've had several small cuttings in the past die on me before they ever rooted so I'm going to be trying this soon as I have quite a few I want to take a cutting of but don't want to risk losing. I cut quite a few very small TBM pups off my mother plant last year and after 9+ months of no roots, many shriveled and one rotted.
One technique to root cacti that are grafted is to cut the stock very short or to to cut it half off at the joint so that the scion still gets nutrients from the stock but will be shoot new roots in search for water/nutrients.
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hookahhead
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Great advice modern! BOTH methods could be used in TANDUM!
-------------------- "My worm farm" "96 Gallon Worm Tote" "Let Your Freak Flag Fly" "Respect Your Roots" "A KNEW IDEA"
"Nothing New" "Willkommen im EthnoGarten" "Don't Be a Backeberg" "Mites and Mealy Bugs" "The Heart and the Sun"
If someone doesn't want your LIGHT, shine it some where else. Everyday there are people who LOVE, ACCEPT, and LOOK FORWARD to making CONTACT with you. YOU are capable of GREAT THINGS even if you feel neglected or mistreated in OUR current SPACE. Change your ways, change our WORLD, there is SAFTEY in NUMBERS. Welcome to the PRESENT. ~ 144,000 Anonymous Voices “Call it a clan, call it a network, call it a tribe, call it a family: Whatever you call it, whoever you are, you need one. [NOW]” - Jane Howard
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SuperD
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modern.shaman said: One technique to root cacti that are grafted is to cut the stock very short or to to cut it half off at the joint so that the scion still gets nutrients from the stock but will be shoot new roots in search for water/nutrients.
Good stuff. I can't remember where I saw it now but somewhere there was a pic tutorial of cutting the graft stock off but leaving about 2cm of length left. After that the person peeled the entire stock away from it's core and the only thing left was the woody core..no skin or anything else left whatsoever It was then rooted and you could never tell the scion was grafted once placed in soil.
I received a cacti from someone in a trade and they had actually done this so I know it works but it seems like overkill when both of the above methods you two mention work just as well. I'm still unsure what benefit peeling everything down to the core would give over leaving the stock in tact.
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hookahhead
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: SuperD]
#19401203 - 01/10/14 09:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It may help to accelerate rooting? If I am understanding you right, it is similar to "shaving" the end of a Cannabis clone?
Want another benefit of air layering?
It provides a nice winter coat for cold cacti!

-------------------- "My worm farm" "96 Gallon Worm Tote" "Let Your Freak Flag Fly" "Respect Your Roots" "A KNEW IDEA"
"Nothing New" "Willkommen im EthnoGarten" "Don't Be a Backeberg" "Mites and Mealy Bugs" "The Heart and the Sun"
If someone doesn't want your LIGHT, shine it some where else. Everyday there are people who LOVE, ACCEPT, and LOOK FORWARD to making CONTACT with you. YOU are capable of GREAT THINGS even if you feel neglected or mistreated in OUR current SPACE. Change your ways, change our WORLD, there is SAFTEY in NUMBERS. Welcome to the PRESENT. ~ 144,000 Anonymous Voices “Call it a clan, call it a network, call it a tribe, call it a family: Whatever you call it, whoever you are, you need one. [NOW]” - Jane Howard
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SuperD
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: hookahhead]
#19401217 - 01/10/14 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah that's exactly what they did. When I received the trade I checked the bottom and it looked like a ~2cm wooden straw was sticking out of the bottom of the cacti.
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: SuperD]
#19401396 - 01/10/14 10:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is a subtle and beautiful trolling of Annie while showing something cool. Bravo!!!!
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hookahhead
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shadowman-x said: This is a subtle and beautiful trolling of Annie while showing something cool. Bravo!!!!
I hope I NEVER FORGET this message AGAIN. Thank you to all that have played your part, and for all that you ALL have TAUGHT me. As I lay me down to sleep, I PRAY tomorrow I will AWAKEN to a NEW WAVE.
-------------------- "My worm farm" "96 Gallon Worm Tote" "Let Your Freak Flag Fly" "Respect Your Roots" "A KNEW IDEA"
"Nothing New" "Willkommen im EthnoGarten" "Don't Be a Backeberg" "Mites and Mealy Bugs" "The Heart and the Sun"
If someone doesn't want your LIGHT, shine it some where else. Everyday there are people who LOVE, ACCEPT, and LOOK FORWARD to making CONTACT with you. YOU are capable of GREAT THINGS even if you feel neglected or mistreated in OUR current SPACE. Change your ways, change our WORLD, there is SAFTEY in NUMBERS. Welcome to the PRESENT. ~ 144,000 Anonymous Voices “Call it a clan, call it a network, call it a tribe, call it a family: Whatever you call it, whoever you are, you need one. [NOW]” - Jane Howard
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ferrel_human
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: hookahhead]
#19401667 - 01/10/14 11:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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This technique not new. My khat has made a few. Not by my hand, mind you. It seems the lower branches rub against the ground and the moisture closest to the ground helps magically induce rooting. Its completely attached to the tree. I seen it about 3 times. I have cut them before but I can never fully get them to thrive being cut. As if the roots support some 3rd party moisture.
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Layering has been my most successful way of propagating Catha. I cut them once they have some good roots pot them up and then keep them in the shade with plenty of water. ( for a Catha )
Cheers Got
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: GoOnThen]
#19401705 - 01/10/14 11:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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GoOnThen said: Layering has been my most successful way of propagating Catha. I cut them once they have some good roots pot them up and then keep them in the shade with plenty of water. ( for a Catha )
Cheers Got
The shade. Aha! Thats what it was. Ithought them being rooted could handle full sun like my other one. Not so I guesss. Thanks GOT.
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All of the small ones that I propagate from suckers and layering wont handle full sun I presume it is the fact that there roots system is very small. Once they establish themselves they will handle it better. I also find that any Catha in a pot struggles here in full sun during summer but I do use a mix much the same as I do for my Trichs. I have tried watering every day during summer but they are still wilted each afternoon.
Cheers Got
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: GoOnThen]
#19401747 - 01/10/14 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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GoOnThen said: Layering has been my most successful way of propagating Catha. I cut them once they have some good roots pot them up and then keep them in the shade with plenty of water. ( for a Catha )
Cheers Got
I've tried cloning Catha many times to no avail. I'm going to probably try once more using the exact method I was recently so successful cloning Kratom with, but air layering may be a better option.
What do you use to make your actual soil wrap part of it?
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hookahhead
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Divine Moments of TRUTH Are in front of us the whole time. The message sometimes just gets "lost" in all of the CHAOS (noise)
 
seriously GOOD NIGHT
-------------------- "My worm farm" "96 Gallon Worm Tote" "Let Your Freak Flag Fly" "Respect Your Roots" "A KNEW IDEA"
"Nothing New" "Willkommen im EthnoGarten" "Don't Be a Backeberg" "Mites and Mealy Bugs" "The Heart and the Sun"
If someone doesn't want your LIGHT, shine it some where else. Everyday there are people who LOVE, ACCEPT, and LOOK FORWARD to making CONTACT with you. YOU are capable of GREAT THINGS even if you feel neglected or mistreated in OUR current SPACE. Change your ways, change our WORLD, there is SAFTEY in NUMBERS. Welcome to the PRESENT. ~ 144,000 Anonymous Voices “Call it a clan, call it a network, call it a tribe, call it a family: Whatever you call it, whoever you are, you need one. [NOW]” - Jane Howard
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: GoOnThen]
#19401752 - 01/10/14 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mine has purple leaves on it due to the cold. Similar to pot.
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theMallacht said: What do you use to make your actual soil wrap part of it?
Check the link at the very top, plastic wrap seems to work well if you don't have a burlap sack handy. As long as the material retains moisture inside it should do the job according to the tek.
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Re: Conquering your FEAR [Re: SuperD]
#19402048 - 01/11/14 01:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Skip small trollin'
C'moooooooon... Your pereskiopsis are on DIRT.. In trash, plants doesn't belong to dirt because of humans have taken them out of nature.. right? What? I need someone to support me now! In the new age..
Dirt is not new In the NEW AGE Dirt will be cleaned off... No matter of what, I use chemicals to root my cannabis I have stolen from friend garden, I use only water to grow my trichos.. Not dirt.. Never work, but I d0n't mind.. In the new age, it's fast way to produce flesh of trichs and take sum trip with my pal... Name is scumbag steve.. aaaawwww-yeeeeaaah.. you ain't shit dude, you're just... ...vintage bs bla bla "do this, do dat" Liek mein mom!? ...in the new age
They see some trollin' ..they hatin' 
but scumbags and new age! I don' know what it is cult sounds so fancy, I'm in.. no matter what.. Who have acid? I have my grandpa blood pressure pills if it helps?
Steve the scumbag raid mein grandma hus.. yo.. I think we do today lots of drugs and eat pereskiopsis leafs ...to get high.
NeW AgE.. You all know, I am messiah, you are just scumbags HiioooH
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Seriously.. This what I say good TEK.. Hookahhead, your way's to do this.. amazing.
This is awesome way to make trich cuttings before they are really "cuttings"
You're teaching lots of things, yet simple and new for me, but I don't say I can't learn more.. Want to learn more. I have two trichs(only because lack of stocks) from my hybrid tray grafted to pereskiopsis.. I Hope they succees..  I think I have find out the way how to graft with success atm 
Only need to wait I grow pereskiopsis stocks more and more.. and graft trichs to get fast new specimens and make them cuttings at size of 5-8inch or so..
Pereskiopsis, It's very weird cacti species indeed and new for me.. First plants I had from good friend there shroomery and I started to practice grafting to pereskiopsis. It took some time to learned it. For my shit luck when I first got pereskiopsis, I had 8-9 small purple-white peyote seedlings I tried to graft but I doesn't had skill to graft 'em and fuck them all.. 
Sorry about trolling my friend.. I could not resist to act like idiot very first time, this is new age.. Seems it's common around.. heh..
But this way to produce roots to trich scion.. You have learned me the way to get fast trich cuttings without cutting them off from pereskiopsis and root them separately. Nice..

My plan with pereskiopsis have been skip the slow start of trichs with and make fast good size plants and root them.
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