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Verm barrier keeps collapsing
#19401043 - 01/10/14 08:34 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Hello! I'm having a problem with pf jars. When after I'm done packing the brf mixture, I put the verm barrier to prevent contamination and when after I pressure cook the cakes shrink and the barrier collapses into the cake. Typically this has not been a problem, but 3 weeks ago I inoculated 4 jars with penis envy, and the barrier collapsed completely. In 3 of my jars there is only mycellium growth at one innculation point, and in the last one there is growth on two points. This has been bothering me a little. When I place the verm barrier I fill the verm up to the top of the jar. Now I'm considering leaving some space between the jar top and the verm barrier. What do you all think? I'm innoculating 3 jars with B+ this sunday and I don't want this to become a problem.
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cronicr



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Re: Verm barrier keeps collapsing [Re: Inspiration]
#19401050 - 01/10/14 08:36 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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wrong size jarrs or your not tapping your mix down
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Re: Verm barrier keeps collapsing [Re: cronicr]
#19401118 - 01/10/14 08:52 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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^^^ Like with a wooden spoon? Crap...
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cronicr



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Re: Verm barrier keeps collapsing [Re: Inspiration]
#19401133 - 01/10/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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no just tapping it gently to fill the gaps, not stuffing it tight but making sure ....that doesn't happen lol
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Re: Verm barrier keeps collapsing [Re: cronicr]
#19401147 - 01/10/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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I was gonna say... I used to just lightly tap the jars on the counter once maybe twice.
Idk if that's what other people do.
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cronicr



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Re: Verm barrier keeps collapsing [Re: magickspore]
#19401150 - 01/10/14 08:59 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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basicly yep
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elasticaltiger
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Re: Verm barrier keeps collapsing [Re: cronicr]
#19401166 - 01/10/14 09:02 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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I feel like there is something seriously wrong here. I can't imagine the circumstances in which this would happen. Do you not smooth your verm barrier out at all or gently pat it just to 'shore it up' and make it even? You definitely don't want to pack it down but I thought everyone at least kinda tapped it into place.
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cronicr



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being true stoner it happens to me in at least one of 30 cakes
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Quote:
elasticaltiger said: I feel like there is something seriously wrong here. I can't imagine the circumstances in which this would happen. Do you not smooth your verm barrier out at all or gently pat it just to 'shore it up' and make it even? You definitely don't want to pack it down but I thought everyone at least kinda tapped it into place.
One thing that I'm going to quit doing is packing the verm barrier tight up against the lid. I suspect this is the cause.
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cronicr



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Re: Verm barrier keeps collapsing [Re: Inspiration]
#19401434 - 01/10/14 10:20 PM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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no your just not filling the jar properly, just tap the bottom on your hand a couple times to get rid of the gaps and the collapsing will stop
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