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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: unam sanctum]
    #19403117 - 01/11/14 10:30 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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unam sanctum said:
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Patlal said:
Houston, we have a problem. A big fat problem...

I don't think I need to post any sources, you probably all believe me. America is addicted with sugar, salt and fat.

What I ask from you is an intelligent solution? Something ingenious, something farfetched, Something simple, yet extremely effective.

Give me solutions.




why do you always want to fix everything? let it be.




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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19403121 - 01/11/14 10:31 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Any legislation set forth to improve society as a whole is looked down upon by the modern right wing as nanny state over regulation.





so you're happy that marijuana is illegal because that's exactly what you describe


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19403124 - 01/11/14 10:32 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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JMcDoogle said:
This is purely sarcastic though;

Who cares if people want to kill themselves with obesity and live unhealthy
un-fit lives - in 50% of cases it is an undeniably avoidable disease.

Should I have to pay more taxes due to federal regulation and the work
that will have to be done to see these bills pass, and be regulated?

:shrug:




Which parts of the federal budget do you support?

The money is there, to do good. It's simply being squandered elsewhere.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19403130 - 01/11/14 10:34 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

it's an opinion :shrug:


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19403131 - 01/11/14 10:34 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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JMcDoogle said:
This is purely sarcastic though;

Who cares if people want to kill themselves with obesity and live unhealthy
un-fit lives - in 50% of cases it is an undeniably avoidable disease.

Should I have to pay more taxes due to federal regulation and the work
that will have to be done to see these bills pass, and be regulated?

:shrug:





Let's try and dig a little deeper into the problem of obesity as a whole.
What are the causes and triggers for obesity. One answer is unhappiness, and
boredom. Promote productivity and happier lifestyles and you will see a decrease
in obesity.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19403143 - 01/11/14 10:37 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Any legislation set forth to improve society as a whole is looked down upon by the modern right wing as nanny state over regulation.





so you're happy that marijuana is illegal because that's exactly what you describe




Not sure I understand the inference.

Marijuana consumption isn't a nationwide epidemic like obesity and it's related issues (diabetes, heart disease, hypertension).

Obviously, it's the left pushing legalization, and the right pushing back. Giving people incentives to eat right and exercise is hardly comparable to jailing a million people every year for ingesting a substance with no harmful effects.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19403159 - 01/11/14 10:41 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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JMcDoogle said:
This is purely sarcastic though;

Who cares if people want to kill themselves with obesity and live unhealthy
un-fit lives - in 50% of cases it is an undeniably avoidable disease.

Should I have to pay more taxes due to federal regulation and the work
that will have to be done to see these bills pass, and be regulated?

:shrug:




Simply ending agricultural subsidies would actually mean a reduction in spending though.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19403163 - 01/11/14 10:42 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Any legislation set forth to improve society as a whole is looked down upon by the modern right wing as nanny state over regulation.





so you're happy that marijuana is illegal because that's exactly what you describe




Not sure I understand the inference.

Marijuana consumption isn't a nationwide epidemic like obesity and it's related issues (diabetes, heart disease, hypertension).




obesity isnt an epidemic, you're buying into the hype from the people that
would love to pass more legislation on what we can consume

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Obviously, it's the left pushing legalization, and the right pushing back.





false

it's because of the liberals that it's illegal and a handful from both
sides are pushing for legalization whild more are abstaining, the left
tends to push against legalization harder than the right, even Obama has
stated that his administration will not support legalization efforts and
his administration has actually doubled the number of raid against medical
dispensaries in california since the bush administration

the left is dictating what you may consume and you're being told it's the
right but you dont care about that, you want to believe the left leaning
politicians and the MSM


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19403173 - 01/11/14 10:44 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Any legislation set forth to improve society as a whole is looked down upon by the modern right wing as nanny state over regulation.





so you're happy that marijuana is illegal because that's exactly what you describe




Not sure I understand the inference.

Marijuana consumption isn't a nationwide epidemic like obesity and it's related issues (diabetes, heart disease, hypertension).

Obviously, it's the left pushing legalization, and the right pushing back. Giving people incentives to eat right and exercise is hardly comparable to jailing a million people every year for ingesting a substance with no harmful effects.




legislation amounts to threats, not incentives.  you have no right to tell me what to do with my body.  this isn't complicated.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Spacerific]
    #19403255 - 01/11/14 11:01 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Stop subsidizing starch and sugar crap, start taxing them instead. Unhealthy addictive foods should be more expensive than basic normal survival stuff. MSG I personally stay away from, as I think it's bad for you. But even if it isn't, it does make you eat more and want more of the food before you, so yeh. To be looked into.

Start subsidizing green lean healthy things and tax the crap. If they do it for cigarettes and alcohol IMO they should do it for shitty foods as well. Starchy stuff leads to excess inflammatory Omega 6 oils. Green veggies and fish to Omega 3. They should be about even in one's diet. Currently the Standard American Diet has something like 1:20 ratio, in favor of Omega 6. Hence the allergies, irritability, probably contributes to obesity as people are less able to be active and have lousier moods, etc. TED Talk about this.

As it is right now, healthy food is expensive, crap fatty foods are cheap. This is reflected in what people buy and eventually eat.

Start figuring weight/diet/some other metric of this sort, more intensely into things like insurance costs or even wages. It is NOT the same for a company, if there's an environment of reasonably fit people, or fucking whales. We know obesity is to some extent a factor of whether your not your peers are obese. So there are real reasons to discourage this stuff actively. By discourage I mean don't offer the same wages. All things being equal, the fat person should NOT get the job over the equally qualified normal weight one, or if both get it, they shouldn't be paid the same. Basically a being fat tax, I'm pretty sure that'd be quite effective :lol:

I know there's already a fat tax, in the sense that people react differently to some extent, but it's one thing to just get hints and bad vibes now and then, and another to see it black on white every month, that your extra weight is costing you this much $$$. Would be hard to implement of course (especially in America where suing seems to be a national sport) but somehow you have to get to the meat of the matter.

Regulate what CAN be on a store shelf, labeled as food in the first place. Regulate acceptable sugar levels, or at least label them clearly, obviously.

Promote nudism or something. Anything that would give a bit more incentive for people to look good, stay fit. Most people put in a healthy context will reflect at least some of that context into that behavior. Having only food stores that sell crap around your house WILL lead to eating more crap and being overweight. I notice this as I travel around. The Netherlands supermarkets have a far wider selection of fresh salads and greens to choose from, than my country. Consequently I eat way healthier here than back home. If Americans are fat, it's I think largely a function of what's put before them in stores and restaurants, to choose from.

Tell people about portion size and longevity.

Also, straight up rewards for moving and being active. Russian Metro accepts 30 squats as payment for a ride. You can put a lot of things like this around, even if not so obvious.

More bike lanes, incentives to use bikes or electric bikes as opposed to cars, what have you.




Now that's one hell of a good answer. Good thinking. It's worth puttng on the suggestion list.

Thank you for your collaboration.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: unam sanctum]
    #19403256 - 01/11/14 11:01 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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unam sanctum said:
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Patlal said:
Houston, we have a problem. A big fat problem...

I don't think I need to post any sources, you probably all believe me. America is addicted with sugar, salt and fat.

What I ask from you is an intelligent solution? Something ingenious, something farfetched, Something simple, yet extremely effective.

Give me solutions.




why do you always want to fix everything? let it be.




Because if everybody was a passive idiot like you suggest, the world would stop becoming better.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
    #19403271 - 01/11/14 11:05 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

You know, taxing junk food would technically mostly penalize the obese and barely penalize the healthy people. Healthy people don't buy shitty food, so they wouldn't pay the tax.

I agree with the point that obese people should be paid less. They have a cost on business. Plus it's one hell of an incentive. Lose weight and you're salary will go up.

Whether or not these things would pass is one big question.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19403275 - 01/11/14 11:06 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Whether or not these things would pass is one big question.





too much.


taxes on junk food. im down.


paying fat people less?

no.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
    #19403290 - 01/11/14 11:09 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Patlal said:
You know, taxing junk food would technically mostly penalize the obese and barely penalize the healthy people. Healthy people don't buy shitty food, so they wouldn't pay the tax.




false

if we tax canada then it's a win/win


who filled your head with this nonsense


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19403318 - 01/11/14 11:15 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
You know, taxing junk food would technically mostly penalize the obese and barely penalize the healthy people. Healthy people don't buy shitty food, so they wouldn't pay the tax.




false

if we tax canada then it's a win/win


who filled your head with this nonsense




COme Pris, quit trolling, you're one of the few people on this website that could think of something smart that could possibly work.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
    #19403331 - 01/11/14 11:18 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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COme Pris, quit trolling, you're one of the few people on this website that could think of something smart that could possibly work.





work for what? preventing people from doing what they choose to do?

no thanks, I'm not a liberal


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Patlal]
    #19403337 - 01/11/14 11:19 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

Well under Obama's tax plan, your gym membership and personal training sessions are actually calculated towards your tax rebate.

Just tax sugar and certain types of fats.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: something super extreme]
    #19403343 - 01/11/14 11:21 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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sVs said:
Or just euthanize fat people. I'm serious.
Turn them into food for poor people. You're doing two groups of undesirables both a huge, blubbery favor.




:rofl2:


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19403346 - 01/11/14 11:21 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Patlal said:
Houston, we have a problem. A big fat problem...

I don't think I need to post any sources, you probably all believe me. America is addicted with sugar, salt and fat.

What I ask from you is an intelligent solution? Something ingenious, something farfetched, Something simple, yet extremely effective.





mexico, england and australia have all passed the US in obesity, why it the US a problem?





There's way more fat white people in England and Australia than the US. In the US, most of the fat people are black and Hispanic.


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Re: Prediction: by 2030, 44% of America will be overweight... Give me a solution to this problem [Re: Crystal G]
    #19403349 - 01/11/14 11:22 AM (10 years, 20 days ago)

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In the US, most of the fat people are black and Hispanic.




i feel that this isn't true.


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