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Marriage
    #19399705 - 01/10/14 03:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

People with strong will and independence of mind should never get married.  That goes for men and women. 

In marriage the woman must be, well, the woman, and the man must be obedient and docile -- to the core.  If you don't fit into the traditional categories, you'll probably run into trouble.  In strict truth, there is only room for one will in anyone's life, but people will get married, and if you do not conform to the proper mold, you are very likely in for misery and worse.  People generally don't take these notions into account, and it is no surprise that the divorce rate is over fifty percent.


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Re: Marriage [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #19399760 - 01/10/14 03:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I assumed the divorce rate is higher because everyone is getting married right out of high school.. I know myself sexually, mentally, physically, emotionally and I'm still not ready for marriage. Because I understand myself.


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Re: Marriage [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #19399820 - 01/10/14 03:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

We're taught from a young age about "one true love" and all that, it takes awhile to see through and not everyone wants to see through it at all.


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Re: Marriage [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #19399882 - 01/10/14 04:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

DividedQuantum said:
People with strong will and independence of mind should never get married.  That goes for men and women. 

In marriage the woman must be, well, the woman, and the man must be obedient and docile -- to the core.  If you don't fit into the traditional categories, you'll probably run into trouble.  In strict truth, there is only room for one will in anyone's life, but people will get married, and if you do not conform to the proper mold, you are very likely in for misery and worse.  People generally don't take these notions into account, and it is no surprise that the divorce rate is over fifty percent.




Are you or have you been married? If not what makes you so sure of your speculation?


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Re: Marriage [Re: Kickle]
    #19399954 - 01/10/14 04:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have never been married but I think it is realistic to think that observing dozens of relationships from up close, including several marriages, is enough to qualify me to make such remarks.

On top of what I mentioned above, two further reasons for some people (not all!) to avoid marriage are these:

Monogamy isn't necessarily the best thing for a lot of people.

And a big reason is that in this life, so much of the time people just need to go their separate ways after awhile.  Spending your entire life tied to one person is almost slavish, and only works for a very select few.


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Re: Marriage [Re: Kickle]
    #19399978 - 01/10/14 04:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Kickle said:

Are you or have you been married? If not what makes you so sure of your speculation?




Do you learn everything the hard way?


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Re: Marriage [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #19400004 - 01/10/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

DividedQuantum said:
I have never been married but I think it is realistic to think that observing dozens of relationships from up close, including several marriages, is enough to qualify me to make such remarks.

On top of what I mentioned above, two further reasons for some people (not all!) to avoid marriage are these:

Monogamy isn't necessarily the best thing for a lot of people.

And a big reason is that in this life, so much of the time people just need to go their separate ways after awhile.  Spending your entire life tied to one person is almost slavish, and only works for a very select few.




Marriage helps me when selecting tenants.  It's a legal contract, and when two married people apply if one flakes they both flake.

Now, just 15 mins ago I have the girl call and say "me and my fiancee are wanting to rent your house" and I go no way.  Cause that's bullshit and I know it.  Fiancee.  How long will that last?  I think that dude is just stringing out this chick.  Plus how come the girl always calls and is looking for the house?  How come the guy never calls and says "me and my fiancee are wanting to rent your house"?  It's always the nest builder, the little woman.


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Re: Marriage [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #19400049 - 01/10/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Repertoire89 said:
Quote:

Kickle said:

Are you or have you been married? If not what makes you so sure of your speculation?




Do you learn everything the hard way?




Nah but some.

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DividedQuantum said:
I have never been married but I think it is realistic to think that observing dozens of relationships from up close, including several marriages, is enough to qualify me to make such remarks.

On top of what I mentioned above, two further reasons for some people (not all!) to avoid marriage are these:

Monogamy isn't necessarily the best thing for a lot of people.

And a big reason is that in this life, so much of the time people just need to go their separate ways after awhile.  Spending your entire life tied to one person is almost slavish, and only works for a very select few.




Ok just wondering


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Re: Marriage [Re: Kickle]
    #19400067 - 01/10/14 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nah but some.




Hm, maybe some things are worth learning the hard way. That's why I dragged out my last few relationships, kept getting in more relationships while the doubts about my own commitment grew.


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Re: Marriage [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19400129 - 01/10/14 04:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well I'm not married but have been with the same woman since the end of high school. That's approaching 8 years. I've not found independence to be an issue. But then again we are both quite introverted and the story might be different if we were more focused on what the other person was doing rather than how well the other person is doing.


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Re: Marriage [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #19400325 - 01/10/14 05:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
People with strong will and independence of mind should never get married.  That goes for men and women. 

In marriage the woman must be, well, the woman, and the man must be obedient and docile -- to the core.  If you don't fit into the traditional categories, you'll probably run into trouble.  In strict truth, there is only room for one will in anyone's life, but people will get married, and if you do not conform to the proper mold, you are very likely in for misery and worse.  People generally don't take these notions into account, and it is no surprise that the divorce rate is over fifty percent.




ok


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Re: Marriage [Re: Kickle]
    #19400464 - 01/10/14 06:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard that a little distance helps in long-term relationships, makes sense

Personally my biggest hangup on staying with one woman is finding one I respect as an equal, hasn't happened yet and unless I get back into the classical field its doubtful it will ever happen. Its liberating not to care


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Re: Marriage [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19400534 - 01/10/14 06:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I long for companionship.:pokerawe:


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Re: Marriage [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #19400569 - 01/10/14 06:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

my marriage is not in that dimension
although from some vantage points some facets could be seen that way


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Re: Marriage [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19400586 - 01/10/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My marriage is nothing like that. Its only been 3 years but me and my wife are still best friends.


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Re: Marriage [Re: Dudits]
    #19400654 - 01/10/14 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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My marriage is nothing like that. Its only been 3 years but me and my wife are still best friends.




And I say more power to you.  I guess my main point is that it's definitely not for everyone, especially the type I mentioned.


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Re: Marriage [Re: FishOilTheKid] * 1
    #19400666 - 01/10/14 06:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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FishOilTheKid said:
I long for companionship.:pokerawe:




Of course but not just any companionship.  Finding someone you can hang with is pretty hard for some types.


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Re: Marriage [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #19401056 - 01/10/14 08:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I long for companionship.:pokerawe:




i long for a quiet asian or indian woman.  someone i can just sit back and be quiet with, with no need for mental mumbo jumbo.


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Re: Marriage [Re: Hobozen] * 1
    #19401071 - 01/10/14 08:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fat fuckin chance. :curbyourenthusiasm:


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Re: Marriage [Re: Icelander]
    #19401079 - 01/10/14 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:ilold:

I know right.

Dreams will be dreams.

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