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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Prevaricador]
#19398773 - 01/10/14 12:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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it has begun.
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KBG1977
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19398841 - 01/10/14 12:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ferrel_human said: it has begun.

Mortal Kombat!
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intelligentlife
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19398856 - 01/10/14 12:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ferrel_human said: it has begun.

Ooooooh shit!
I wish my a. trigonus would be that size..
..Some day...

I have also some kept in rocks 

Smaller ones


I love this species
Edited by intelligentlife (01/10/14 12:44 PM)
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Mostly_Harmless
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: intelligentlife]
#19398862 - 01/10/14 12:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ahh A. agavoides, lovely!
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intelligentlife
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#19398886 - 01/10/14 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mostly_Harmless said: ahh A. agavoides, lovely!
Hope I see flowers, this year my plants have not flowered.. Even summer they have been spent in hot and last winter was in cold, my circumstances probably have not allowed these to start winter flowering..
I still not know for sure what triggers ariocarpus flowering, is it cold winter or hot summer.. I have moved now too often so it have been hard time to even care all plants..
A. Agavoides flowers are very awesome... 
I just wait I can move to new apartment, I have nice place for plants, winter time temps are about +8-15C.. Maybe lower temps and light can cause ariocarpus flower..
Cacti can be confused and flower different time than usual because of my arctic climate. 2,5hours day length there at the moment, but I have still not seen the sun. Fast it comes, 1hour in week more sun..
Edited by intelligentlife (01/10/14 12:55 PM)
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: intelligentlife]
#19398927 - 01/10/14 12:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Soon.
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19398962 - 01/10/14 01:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ferrel_human said:

Soon.
OHH!!!!!
What a nice specimens..
I should get more of this ariocarpus! 
Very nice plants Ferrel indeed!
Can you advice some? How flowering of ariocarpus happens? I know they flower at coldest time of the year but I have not understand the whole pattern, do they need extremely hot summer and when cold comes they bloom?
I have some mammillaria what basically blooms even I water them with some water over year but I water them more at summer.. some mammillaria seems to starts flowering after days get shorter. Some mammillaria also doesn't need even full winter but they flower after good growing season, sometimes at spring and fall.. Ariocarpus are tricky ones in my climate.. Winter are total dark so would I need just some growing light ~8-10hour/day on and cooler temperatures without water at all?
Let me know about.. I have grow ariocarpus long time, randomly kept them around my garden, never seen flower even I know what is the time of blooming.. Advice the da noob
btw, since this is stone eaters thread, I have just mail order some lime stone pulver/rocks.. I can't get it from the wild but I have planned to add it to surface of lophs and ariocarpus soil, then just let the limestone pulver/pieces go under the top layer or so.. Since these arios and lophs are growing at area where limestone occur, I wanted to give plants as authentic rocky growing medium as possible.. When spring and growing season starts, they can have alkaline rocky soil and acidic water like in their habitat..
Edited by intelligentlife (01/10/14 01:06 PM)
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: intelligentlife]
#19399048 - 01/10/14 01:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They flower in the fall and push fruit out in the spring, or as I have now , midwinter.
-------------------- Nature is my church and walking through it is gospel. It tells no lies and reveals all to those who look, and listen, closely. -Karode
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19399062 - 01/10/14 01:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ferrel_human said:

Soon.
Yeah man,they look fantastic! Good choice of rocks too,the ariocarpus are blending in well
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19399082 - 01/10/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I bet up there you have some of the cleanest water to use. Must be nice.
I was talking to themallacht the other day, and he asked me what I fed them. He was very perplexed at my answer to nothing. He asked when I watered them and I said never. Again he was like but yeah you feed them and I said no.
You see what most people dont know is, I havent watered them all year. Since the oldest is almost 8 years and small, I have watered them maybe like 10 times total. Ever. Nature knows what she is doi g and once hardened off they need nothing from me. I know that is not feasible for everybody but living in south texas and so close to its home range all that needs to be copied, IMO, is the soil or rocks.
-------------------- Nature is my church and walking through it is gospel. It tells no lies and reveals all to those who look, and listen, closely. -Karode
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Edited by ferrel_human (01/10/14 01:25 PM)
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SuperD
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19399087 - 01/10/14 01:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The beginning of something wonderful.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19399264 - 01/10/14 01:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ferrel_human said: I bet up there you have some of the cleanest water to use. Must be nice.
I was talking to themallacht the other day, and he asked me what I fed them. He was very perplexed at my answer to nothing. He asked when I watered them and I said never. Again he was like but yeah you feed them and I said no.
You see what most people dont know is, I havent watered them all year. Since the oldest is almost 8 years and small, I have watered them maybe like 10 times total. Ever. Nature knows what she is doi g and once hardened off they need nothing from me. I know that is not feasible for everybody but living in south texas and so close to its home range all that needs to be copied, IMO, is the soil or rocks.
And besides the times I have watered them is with tap water and they just dont like it. The shrivel almost to say "thats disgusting,":gag:
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SuperD
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19399324 - 01/10/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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One of my little greenhouses actually has gutters on each side, so I took some tubing and attached it to both ends of the gutters and that tubing runs down into a water barrel. Fresh water year round. Just having a rain barrel out there is good enough I think. Before I hooked mine up to my gh I still had quite a decent amount of water to use but the opening at the top to catch rain was kind of small so I made some adjustments.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: SuperD]
#19399363 - 01/10/14 02:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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SuperD said: One of my little greenhouses actually has gutters on each side, so I took some tubing and attached it to both ends of the gutters and that tubing runs down into a water barrel. Fresh water year round. Just having a rain barrel out there is good enough I think. Before I hooked mine up to my gh I still had quite a decent amount of water to use but the opening at the top to catch rain was kind of small so I made some adjustments.
I usually put buckets out and collect and save for later.
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intelligentlife
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19399376 - 01/10/14 02:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We have there very clean tap water compared to most countries, when I spray my plants, not any residues will be left to skin of plant..
Only residues I have seen are from fertilizer of pesticide..
Also many houses there use ground water from well directly to house without purifying plants at the middle of water source, pure natural water from the earth.. It's perfect and acidic..
I use rain water or smelt snow or ice to have water at spring and fall.. It's 8months long frost time there so when it's "growing season" at beginning, outdoors can be -20C frosts.. At March can be -30C nights but sun shine starts to warm that time of year so day temps are not so cold.. Sometimes can be +5C day and -25C night at spring.. May is not even uncommon it's snowing and Snowing have been occur at mid-summer also.. Not even chili plants survive there outdoors. Only cannabis and poppy.
Last summer was odd.. +30C at May and hottest spring and summer ever. Native plants go crazy, flowered two times and so on.. I'm at climate where ocean current warm weather enough even I am above arctic circle, there is relatively warm summer and few days ago was +1C temps.. But if arctic wind comes there temperatures will drop and fast.. Basically I need to use heating in greenhouse if I want plants out at May... Also August can be night frosts already so 4months in greenhouse are basically maximum I can have.. But heating night time in greenhouse is less electric costs than using plant lights... I can use heat radiator with thermo adjusted to +8C
Last May I had cacti in greenhouse and outdoors was -5C frosts.. ..but simple heating and good greenhouse without leaks will keep heat inside..
Now I'm building greenhouse with double layer transparent greenhouse plastic at walls.. I build it for cacti.. Another greenhouse I have already are planned to food plants.
It's fun to fight against elements there.. atleast something to do
One "problem" I have find out at summer because it's 2months long day without night.. cacti are hard to adjust.. Well they're ok when temperature change from below +10C night to +30-40C day.. But sun goes more like circle around the sky than rise from easy and set to west.. Also sunrise and sunset lasts 2-3hours so when it's getting dark, it's time it's starting to get cold also. Mid-night sun shines from north but from very low. Damn I love summer
Also I have no problem with obtaining water. Sub-arctic climate offers sometimes lots of rain and water.. But I have notice, this house tap water are not directly from nature but there are close areas where I can pick up drinkable water from mountain springs, it's crystal clear and comes from depths of the earth.
Edited by intelligentlife (01/10/14 02:20 PM)
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SuperD
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19399386 - 01/10/14 02:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was doing that too before rigging this thing up but I used some of my empty wide mouth pots that hadn't been used yet to do the job instead of buckets haha.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: SuperD]
#19399458 - 01/10/14 02:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Intelligent, those have to be some very extreme grow parameters. You sir deserve a prize. Growing cacti in arctic. Who woulda thought?
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19399543 - 01/10/14 02:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Growing cacti and living in the arctic. He needs a prize for doing both.
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: SuperD]
#19400065 - 01/10/14 04:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just like to push the limits... 
Local native spiders are going crazy in greenhouse and no doubt I have greenhouse always full of spiders as natural pest control.
Good thing about living there is there are no deadly or poisonous spiders to human but may my friends hate still my greenhouse cause it's crawling spiders.. Some people fear them even they are not doing any harm to humans, they can't even bite human, not a single species of them. 
One look at door inside the greenhouse and I can spot dozens of spiders easily running around and doing their job.
Best place for them to settle down, hunt and breed compared to climate outside greenhouse. They offer me good gift as they nurse and kill pests and I offer them more warmer micro-climate 
What I have find out, slower growing cactus, better they suit in my climate.. lophophora, ariocarpus and few other species.. Perfect as windowsill cactus.. Basically some mammillarias and echinopsis cobulars also can bloom at windowsill there.
Columnar are tricky, local houses are build so isolated it's hard to find spot cool enough and soon I am moving again.. There I know I have good spot for cacti and temps drop indoors enough they stop growing and can spent winter dark time without etiolation..
I probably have to cut growing season to 5-6months, depends what kind of temps outdoors are. I have really planned to stop using growing lights and go with rules what nature offer.
Edited by intelligentlife (01/10/14 04:42 PM)
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Re: Welcome to the Stone Eaters- A Soil Revolution [Re: ferrel_human]
#19400178 - 01/10/14 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ferrel_human said: Doss anyone know if fullers earth is any good to use.
Just got a bag to try. Doesn't seem to be treated. My hands feel dry after handling it. I wonder if I should soak it in a bucket of water over night just to be safe.
Nice specimens everyone.
Edited by Corporal Kielbasa (01/10/14 05:13 PM)
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