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PsilocybeDemoneus
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: MushLoveMT]
#19397746 - 01/10/14 07:57 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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And thanks for the welcome. I recieve such words.
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spacechildo
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PsilocybeDemoneus said: No, my popcorn is on point in moisture I'm pretty sure it was because of the ridiculous amount of vermiculite at the top.
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PsilocybeDemoneus
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: spacechildo]
#19399132 - 01/10/14 01:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm saying that the ridiculously slow mycelial growth was probably due to both my impatience and the lack of O2 in the jars. So i removed the verm.... And learned some patience as well
Edited by PsilocybeDemoneus (01/10/14 01:34 PM)
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Kizzle
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I think the Wut is referring to adding vermiculite to a popcorn jar
Were you trying to use it as a contam barrier? It's only done with PF style jars. Need a filter for grains.
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John in WI
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: Josh.0]
#19399790 - 01/10/14 03:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: ive tired a few differant ways 
 same here..i would wind up getting a rotten buttery smelling contam..that looked creamy.. weird stuff.. I think i may try popping it then using it havent tried that one yet.
Fantastic--self buttering popcorn! A guy could make a killing with that.
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PsilocybeDemoneus
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: Kizzle]
#19399837 - 01/10/14 03:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh. Well. It's out now. Checked them again today and saw white fuzzies of mycelia when I shook the kernels around at the top of the jar an now I'm gonna leave them alone till Saturday so the myc can really take hold. Would shaking affect them in any sort way affect EARLY growth. Though the resistance of mycelia is quite astounding, so I wouldn't think so. And yes I was trying to create a contam barrier.
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MudaFuka
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you should rely only shake once around 30% colonization and then let them be.
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spacechildo
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: Kizzle]
#19399991 - 01/10/14 04:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kizzle said: I think the Wut is referring to adding vermiculite to a popcorn jar
Were you trying to use it as a contam barrier? It's only done with PF style jars. Need a filter for grains.
Well, the wut was because he knew the grains were properly hydrated because of the loads of verm in the jars. what does loads of verm in a jar tell about the moisture in the grains?
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Kizzle
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: spacechildo]
#19400081 - 01/10/14 04:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hope when you removed the verm you did it in front of a flower hood or in a still air box. Even then I would consider it a risky procedure.
Shaking can indeed negatively affect early growth after a mutlispore inoculation. Mushroom mycelium grows very slowly until it finds a compatible strain to combine with so you want all spores to germinate near each other to make this happen sooner.
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vikingsc
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: Kizzle]
#19400147 - 01/10/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Opening those jars to take out verm is just asking for contams. I'd start batch 2 right away and not hope for too much from this batch. And this time after it's sterilized don't even think of opening the jars. Like they said spores can take a while to germinate on any substrate.
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MudaFuka
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: vikingsc]
#19400180 - 01/10/14 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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vikingsc said: Opening those jars to take out verm is just asking for contams. I'd start batch 2 right away and not hope for too much from this batch. And this time after it's sterilized don't even think of opening the jars. Like they said spores can take a while to germinate on any substrate. 
I meant to mention that. I'm surprised no one has up until now. very bad idea.
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bowserk
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Re: Popcorn colonization question [Re: Josh.0]
#19401091 - 01/10/14 08:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Josh.0 said:
POPCORN!! !! 
i use popcorn all the time for my actives, and grain for my gourmet mushies. just so i can tell them apart visually i haven't had any problem with popcorn. i don't why people don't like it.
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