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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19394476 - 01/09/14 04:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Since it is legal in CO and WA why not just have industrial hash oil making facilities? Industry can work safely, or fairly safely, with flammable and dangerous chemicals. I am sure a method can be devised to do it all with automated equipment. How many people get hurt during rocket fuel processing? Shit is blowing up because you can't follow basic safety procedures in a kitchen or garage.




As far as I know you can do the same extraction with super-critical C02. In an industrial environment it would make a lot more sense to do that.




Yeah with a machine that costs tens of thousands of $$$

Not very practical . . .




If we're talking about an industrial environment than whatever produces the highest yield will be the most profitable / practical. Hence the industrial revolution

I'm not making any claims concerning that extraction method, but considering that the comment was about industrial use and whole sale equipment tends to be expensive anyways...


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19394879 - 01/09/14 05:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If you're not smart enough, or don't have a place, to at least evap in front of a window with a fan, you should just smoke pot




Not the smartest idea. And while I am a glassblower and a have a very extensive exhaust system set up and have done it twice inside at the bench, I would probably never do it again. Fans are electric devices perfectly capable of creating a spark needed to ignite. Just because you did it safely countless times, it only takes one spark to fuck your shit up. Even static electricity from your body . . .




Then how would you propose to evaporate a solvent? Most of us can't do it outdoors. The fan only sparks once, and you can actually get sparkless fans nowadays. So turn it on before you put your pan down and you're fine. Besides, the fan blows the fumes directly out the window. Fan then Pyrex dish then the open window. Smart kitchen chemists have been doing this for years with things worse than butane.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19394964 - 01/09/14 05:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If you're not smart enough, or don't have a place, to at least evap in front of a window with a fan, you should just smoke pot




Not the smartest idea. And while I am a glassblower and a have a very extensive exhaust system set up and have done it twice inside at the bench, I would probably never do it again. Fans are electric devices perfectly capable of creating a spark needed to ignite. Just because you did it safely countless times, it only takes one spark to fuck your shit up. Even static electricity from your body . . .




Then how would you propose to evaporate a solvent? Most of us can't do it outdoors. The fan only sparks once, and you can actually get sparkless fans nowadays. So turn it on before you put your pan down and you're fine. Besides, the fan blows the fumes directly out the window. Fan then Pyrex dish then the open window. Smart kitchen chemists have been doing this for years with things worse than butane.




I would propose you find a back yard or outside open space and if you cannot then do not do it. And as I said just because it has been done countless times does not mean it is one hundred percent foolproof. There has been countless more cases of people blowing up than just this article. I personally know 2 people that have blown themselves up and luckily not seriously injured but still burned pretty badly.


Yes a fan only sparks once. What if there was a power outage or a power surge? What if the power went out for a brief moment, alowwing fumes to build, and then came back on and the fan sparked? It does not take very much fumes to explode. Have you ever lit butane on fire? I have as a test in a controlled experiment and that shit is FLAMMABLE AS FUCK!

If you feel comfortable doing it inside this way, all I can say is I really hope we do not end up reading about you on the news.

Good luck and stay safe people !


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19395319 - 01/09/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Heffy said:
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my3rdeye said:
Since it is legal in CO and WA why not just have industrial hash oil making facilities? Industry can work safely, or fairly safely, with flammable and dangerous chemicals. I am sure a method can be devised to do it all with automated equipment. How many people get hurt during rocket fuel processing? Shit is blowing up because you can't follow basic safety procedures in a kitchen or garage.




As far as I know you can do the same extraction with super-critical C02. In an industrial environment it would make a lot more sense to do that.




Yeah with a machine that costs tens of thousands of $$$

Not very practical . . .




What makes you think pressing supercritical C02 through a column packed with weed would cost tens of thousands of dollars?

What makes you think an investment of tens of thousands of dollars is impractical for a small industrial business?

What do you think the cost of blowing up your small business would be?


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: Heffy]
    #19395422 - 01/09/14 07:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My god people are dumb. I have made a metric fuckload of oil using butane and never even singed my eyebrows. The saddest part is that its the one retard in 10000 that makes the news. . .

Fucking idiot deserves to be removed from the gene pool.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19395503 - 01/09/14 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:rofl: At the people blowing them selves up from BHO extractions :lol:

3 words for them

use.your.head.

IT IS NOT THAT HARD


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: KT-BC]
    #19395530 - 01/09/14 07:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Rule #1 when making BHO...

NEVER BLAST INDOORS!!!

You can't fix stupid tho. Watch this kid burn his hand on a domeless nail. :rofl:



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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: RobMarley420]
    #19395636 - 01/09/14 07:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:rofl: wooooow.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: KT-BC]
    #19396386 - 01/09/14 10:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What makes you think pressing supercritical C02 through a column packed with weed would cost tens of thousands of dollars?

What makes you think an investment of tens of thousands of dollars is impractical for a small industrial business?

What do you think the cost of blowing up your small business would be?




Because that is how much it costs for a real co2 extraction system

And who said anything about small industrial businesses? We are talking about stoners in their garages and apartments here. So no, it is not practical


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19396567 - 01/09/14 11:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Only way is to do practical in kitchen is just make very small amounts and know what you're doing.

Good ventilation, choose right solvent for your purposes, don't fuck up and know every step of extraction and don't do smoke a bowl when you're doing extraction..

There are so much people, they really don't know these solvents are flammable and dangerous and ignite without spark if temperatures rise enough.

I have ok way to extract with butane, it needs some equipment to build pressure chamber to allow butane stay in liquid form, when liquid comes out it will boil at room temperature or even at +10C

Anyway, I have done usually small amounts and over the years, never happened anything with acetone, butane, ether, etc..

Before I start, I find out what kind of solvent I'm using and what kind of environment I need, good ventilated kitchen works if amounts are very small. But I don't suggest to extract anything in kitchen nor garage..


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: intelligentlife]
    #19397270 - 01/10/14 04:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

All this could be avoided with proper education and safety practices being utilized.  That being said, it's just another reason why bubble hash is superior.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19397359 - 01/10/14 05:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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What makes you think pressing supercritical C02 through a column packed with weed would cost tens of thousands of dollars?

What makes you think an investment of tens of thousands of dollars is impractical for a small industrial business?

What do you think the cost of blowing up your small business would be?




Because that is how much it costs for a real co2 extraction system

And who said anything about small industrial businesses? We are talking about stoners in their garages and apartments here. So no, it is not practical



Actually (as you can clearly see) we were discussing commercial production of hash in states where Cannabis is now legal.

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Since it is legal in CO and WA why not just have industrial hash oil making facilities? Industry can work safely, or fairly safely, with flammable and dangerous chemicals. I am sure a method can be devised to do it all with automated equipment. How many people get hurt during rocket fuel processing? Shit is blowing up because you can't follow basic safety procedures in a kitchen or garage.




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As far as I know you can do the same extraction with super-critical C02. In an industrial environment it would make a lot more sense to do that.



Why would I need to "buy a real C02 extraction system"? It's a very simple extraction. Any decent engineer could probably design one relatively cheaply.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19397361 - 01/10/14 05:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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All this could be avoided with proper education and safety practices being utilized.  That being said, it's just another reason why bubble hash is superior.



That's just not true though. BHO is MUCH purer than bubble hash.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: Heffy]
    #19397940 - 01/10/14 09:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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All this could be avoided with proper education and safety practices being utilized.  That being said, it's just another reason why bubble hash is superior.



That's just not true though. BHO is MUCH purer than bubble hash.




Enjoy your petroleum byproducts and carcinogenic impurities.  Your standard kitchen chemistry techniques cannot make it clean, sorry.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19398211 - 01/10/14 10:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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All this could be avoided with proper education and safety practices being utilized.  That being said, it's just another reason why bubble hash is superior.



That's just not true though. BHO is MUCH purer than bubble hash.




Enjoy your petroleum byproducts and carcinogenic impurities.  Your standard kitchen chemistry techniques cannot make it clean, sorry.




Vac chambers can make oil up to 90% pure THC and ever more. If you use good quality butane that isnt made in korea or wherever most of its made, like new port, or N butane. The amount of impurities is so small, i bet it will have 0 effect on anybody.

With 400$ and a little bit of research, anybody could make transparent amazing shatter that is extremely pure.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: Heffy]
    #19398571 - 01/10/14 11:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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All this could be avoided with proper education and safety practices being utilized.  That being said, it's just another reason why bubble hash is superior.



That's just not true though. BHO is MUCH purer than bubble hash.





The impurities in bubble hash are organic matter. The argument is the impurities in oil are chemicals.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19399432 - 01/10/14 02:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Marinol injection into a black n mild is better then shatter :lol:


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: EastBayRay]
    #19399477 - 01/10/14 02:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Heffy said:
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EastBayRay said:
All this could be avoided with proper education and safety practices being utilized.  That being said, it's just another reason why bubble hash is superior.



That's just not true though. BHO is MUCH purer than bubble hash.




Enjoy your petroleum byproducts and carcinogenic impurities.  Your standard kitchen chemistry techniques cannot make it clean, sorry.



Most bubble hash contains mold caused by poor curing techniques.
Butane is not toxic to breathe.
The combustion by-products of butane are not toxic to breathe.

It's a clean burning fuel!

Nice try.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: my3rdeye]
    #19399484 - 01/10/14 02:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Heffy said:
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All this could be avoided with proper education and safety practices being utilized.  That being said, it's just another reason why bubble hash is superior.



That's just not true though. BHO is MUCH purer than bubble hash.





The impurities in bubble hash are organic matter. The argument is the impurities in oil are chemicals.




I bet ALL organic matter is safe to smoke right? :wink:
Seriously though, you have me all freaked out that I might be ingesting scary chemicals like C02 and H20 from my BHO.


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Re: Hash Oil’s Trail of Seared Skin and Annihilated Homes [Re: Heffy]
    #19399510 - 01/10/14 02:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Look for the LD50 of those substances (toxicology on them) the amount being ingested/inhaled is not an issue.


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