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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
#19398243 - 01/10/14 10:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you prefer to talk around people, rather than converse with people, it might be better to write a book, to avoid interaction and having to deal with others opinions. It seems like you are being defensive, do you feel threatened?
Why do you post here if you don't want to interact and discuss things?
Why did you choose the shroomery philosophy forums of all places?
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
#19398271 - 01/10/14 10:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i am a real individual being and not a pretender of any knowledge or anything
You have an incredibly solipsist point of view. It always interests me when I find people that go through life like that. Fuck if your not right about nothing, nobody is.
-------------------- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
#19398277 - 01/10/14 10:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: If you prefer to talk around people, rather than converse with people, it might be better to write a book, to avoid interaction and having to deal with others opinions. It seems like you are being defensive, do you feel threatened?
Why do you post here if you don't want to interact and discuss things?
Why did you choose the shroomery philosophy forums of all places?
Thank you.
-------------------- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
#19398327 - 01/10/14 10:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I see you mention sometimes, unless I am mistaken, people using your words as theirs... twisting them up... projecting their thoughts onto what you say; misconstruing your meaning. It seems we can't help but do that sometimes... just how we are individually wired... our understandings will differ at times, bound to happen, words/sentences/intention aren't so clear cut always. A lot of our perceptions are erroneous, then we get ourselves in a heap of unintended and misconstrued entanglement.
different strokes for different folks
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"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
#19398334 - 01/10/14 10:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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true true, get in where you fit in
-------------------- "Springs of water welling from the fire" "Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."
"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#19398431 - 01/10/14 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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it is incredible how you mean to use others words for yourself pleasure to label them of anything you want
i cant be solipsist in anyway ... when i repeat that everything is what exist .. and individuals conscious are freedom out of everything rights so their posts are all to themselves possible values and not to any objective fact.. which makes me the opposite of solipsists ways for sure .. and you the solipsist one here .. since you are clearly meaning that everyone is everything that matter .. it is yourself existence, while only objective existence is the fact present without you
and why would you fuck that you are not right, or you are nothing ?? instead of accepting whatever you know being existing ??
on the contrary, to me, positive will is not the reason of being obviously
people in majority, exist and work because they have to and not because they enjoy it
while people who exist by enjoying themselves are usually pointed as being wrong
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
#19398480 - 01/10/14 11:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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absols said: it is incredible how you mean to use others words for yourself pleasure to label them of anything you want
unless I am mistaken again. Don't u do the same in some sense? don't we all? maybe not so much with the pleasure aspect... or maybe depending on how you're lookin at it. maybe happening even autonomously in a sense?
many of our perceptions are often incorrect or erroneous to a degree.... the individual conglomeration writes the story... especially when not so explicit.
-------------------- "Springs of water welling from the fire" "Life may seem to flee in a moment, but when the mind is freed of the veil of ignorance, and illusion that comes between the mind and the truth, life and death are only opposite sides of the same coin - "water welling from the fire."
"Within us, we carry the world of no-birth and no-death. But we never touch it, because we live only with our notions." -Thich Nhat Hanh instant "Experience always goes beyond ideas"
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
#19398595 - 01/10/14 11:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: If you prefer to talk around people, rather than converse with people, it might be better to write a book, to avoid interaction and having to deal with others opinions. It seems like you are being defensive, do you feel threatened?
Why do you post here if you don't want to interact and discuss things?
Why did you choose the shroomery philosophy forums of all places?
talking around people has nothing to do with writing .. i am not a writer ever.. why would i write a book ? for what and to say what ??
a human being is not being oneself .. so it is very healthy to talk around people in the right way to do so unfortunately with such bad time of life for everyone, being in forums seem to be the way of being a human around the world now
i am living in Lebanon so am surrounded by serious negative conflicts politically by also having to watch the most horrible scenes of wars
i am not defensive when i clearly justify objective rights too .. it is my ways of thinking always through rights that is why maybe i don't mean to converse with others like you, because typing words are more to conscious activity so the way one think being, and not to social ways when we are talking to others live
internet activity don't involve but oneself alone .. that is why the result is interesting globally .. as it might look like alive
and of course i feel threatened and more even since i am not young.. but everyone will die anyway .. so it is not an issue for me, my issue is more my ways of not tolerating what you don't respect others freedom
in life too i am very respectful to others free ways and means, i don't deal with others but through realities they do or show
for me it is very wrong to ask someone something he never mention nor meant ..
i didn't choose shroomery forums particularly, i am almost banned of major forums and i like it here because i used to hang out with friends that take drugs when i was young, so i appreciate a lot of things i read here
and i post in philosophy forums, to me it sound right then to be a bit original especially here, in forum where people enjoy tripping .. you can take it that way instead of meaning anything seriously
Edited by absols (01/10/14 12:00 PM)
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Sse]
#19398711 - 01/10/14 12:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok you be god I am napoleon
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
#19398721 - 01/10/14 12:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for explaining and sharing. I feel like we are becoming closer. It seems like you may like the works of Aristotle, are you familiar with the Nicomachean Ethics?
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: Tmethyl]
#19398722 - 01/10/14 12:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tmethyl said: What if you are god, what if we all are god? What if consciousness it's self is but a shard of god? What if speaking of god was unknowingly self-referential. What if nearly everyones concept of god was utterly wrong.
What if god worships humans?
The big what if. I like to deal with certainty.
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
#19398725 - 01/10/14 12:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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redgreenvines said: ok you be god I am napoleon
Nice to meet you, looks like we may be fairly similar.
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: redgreenvines]
#19398971 - 01/10/14 01:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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marco polo
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
#19399225 - 01/10/14 01:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: Thanks for explaining and sharing. I feel like we are becoming closer. It seems like you may like the works of Aristotle, are you familiar with the Nicomachean Ethics?
I don't like Aristotle .. anyway true philosophy to me, is the individual so not an objective work.. while all those philosophers are dead now some of them were certainly very interesting men
I am not a philosopher because I never question anything.. I like philosophical living questions only when it sounds true, so I enjoy thinking some answers straight ...
what matter to me is the result so the objective right constancy, to start from positive ends which leave no room to questions
Edited by absols (01/10/14 01:49 PM)
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
#19399254 - 01/10/14 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What about Kant's universal maxim and the categorical imperative?
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
#19399271 - 01/10/14 01:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's this:
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Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.
โImmanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[12]
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Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means.
โImmanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantian_ethics
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
#19399327 - 01/10/14 02:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i don't like ethics nor any limitation to objective means .. to me anything related to being objective must be supported in its freedom rights.. and individuals relations cant be but relatively objective so i deal with in the same ways ..
like what i said, how internet content seems being a living reality freely
and kant was religious while i am radically and fundamentally opposed to the concept of deity and the powers of absolute entities over existence freedom rights
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: teknix]
#19399400 - 01/10/14 02:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teknix said: It's this:
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Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.
โImmanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[12]
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Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means.
โImmanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantian_ethics
i understand but disagree .. a human must act free and not limit himself to humanity .. humans are to conscious existence freedom rights and not to created condition meant to live consciously by some rules to generalize
objective rights is only what matter
like there could be only one thing right and then many things related to the same right would be absolutely positive reality because of that right being objective
while when objective fact is right, then necessarily present would be free so true existence values would be seen through individuals life and ways of beings
Edited by absols (01/10/14 02:22 PM)
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: absols]
#19399626 - 01/10/14 03:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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absols writing is giving me a headache each time I read it :-) cant interpret it, makes no sense
is English your native language absols?
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Re: All the crazy guys who thought they are god. [Re: lessismore]
#19400395 - 01/10/14 05:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it's a she but anyway if the posts are short I can sort of follow. She's no dummy imo but not worth deciphering unfortunately. There's plenty of others here to play with and none of this is very important so...
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