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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineTerratic
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2C-E with Salvinorin A (report)
    #19397291 - 01/10/14 04:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Bad idea! Oh man, do I ever regret doing that.

I apologize if this report seems all over the place. The effects are wearing off as I type this, and I'm so glad that they are.

So, after taking approx. 8 mg of 2C-E, I started to feel uneasy about 2 hours later: overstimulation, anxiety, depersonalization, etc. I was pacing incessantly. Stronger visual distortions than last time, albeit somewhat mild: visual movement, slight swaying, slight breathing and morphing, mild colour distortion (RGB-like); patterned, indistinct CEVs that were very subtle, and some other stuff I can't describe. Pupils are dilated. I am glad I finally made a bit of headway in my exploration with this compound. But that's beside the point. The neutrality, stimulation and anxiogenic effects are what ruined it for me, and I used gasoline to put out the fire.

Seeing as a small dose of Salvinorin A can give you a bit of amnesia and make you laugh, I thought it would help. Wrong. It made me feel even more shaky, detached, mentally fragmented, panicky, and all out of sorts for about 10 minutes, which, given the time dilation effect, was way too long. I felt even more psychotic and distant. I was ill-prepared for that.

The tactile effects of 2C-E mixed with the Salvinorin A just creates this creepy synergy. I have a hard time putting it into words.

I'm seriously reconsidering Ayahuasca. Maybe it's not a good idea.

Note to future self: Don't put yourself through that again. In time, your outlook will change and the experience will be integrated. Even if you're feeling courageous again, don't. Don't do it.

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+2 hours

The effects are tapering off.

I can sort of appreciate the sense of inner calm 2C-E creates in contrast to the stimulation, muscle tension and restlessness. "Difficult," as Shulgin had described it. I just wish I didn't have to endure all of that—building up until it's almost intolerable—to experience the interesting visual effects. Surely, using S. Divinorum to ease the anxiety was not the best solution. I'm so embarrassed, and I can't help but laugh at the satirical nature of what just happened, even though there was nothing funny about it when I was experiencing it.

Looking at the Erowid page for 2C-E really puts things into perspective whenever you are experiencing the effects. The map is not the territory, so to speak.


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OfflineJacksonMetaller
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Re: 2C-E with Salvinorin A (report) [Re: Terratic]
    #19397642 - 01/10/14 07:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lol how does your head feel now?

I noticed you mention ayahuasca, and i will say that is a very difficult substance for sure. But in the right setting, very worthwhile. But that's one you kind of head in with the expectation of being highly uncomfortable :tongue:

Anyways i'm really interested in doing some of the salvia i have, but one of my friends buds got bad HPPD from it which kind of scared me from it a bit


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Re: 2C-E with Salvinorin A (report) [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #19397776 - 01/10/14 08:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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JacksonMetaller said:
Lol how does your head feel now?

I noticed you mention ayahuasca, and i will say that is a very difficult substance for sure. But in the right setting, very worthwhile. But that's one you kind of head in with the expectation of being highly uncomfortable :tongue:



I feel much better.

From what I hear, Ayahuasca is more sedating. 2C-E just has a pushiness to it that makes it impossible for me to relax or sit still. That, and something about the floaty, intense body load doesn't sit well with me. Ayahuasca has more of a euphoric aspect, apparently, or at least that is what I'm expecting, while 2C-E is more neutral and without pleasantries (IME).

First, I'll get my feet wet with a low dose to see what it's like. 

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Anyways i'm really interested in doing some of the salvia i have, but one of my friends buds got bad HPPD from it which kind of scared me from it a bit



HPPD is more likely to occur with frequent, heavy use. Limit your intake and you'll be less prone to developing it.


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Re: 2C-E with Salvinorin A (report) [Re: Terratic]
    #19398072 - 01/10/14 09:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah i feel that. That's how i felt on DOC. The pushiness for me was a bit much. But ayahuasca can really go either way. I've certainly had euphoric aya trips, as well as "fuck my brain is exploding trips". Usually it's both in the same trip haha.

As far as the HPPD i'm aware of that, but i think this kid used it just once from what i heard. I've already kind of accepted Psychedelic hppd as a possibility, but i just don't know anything about what salvias going to be like so i have no clue how i feel about the risk. I know it's still pretty small, but sometimes i wonder when my luck is going to run out lol


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