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Misting properly
    #19397416 - 01/10/14 05:44 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Hello shroomers!, 

In a thread a while back somebody mentioned that whilst misting I should avoid getting mist on the mycellium(whilst pinning)?  Can somebody explain this a little bit deeper please?

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Re: Misting properly [Re: Edmunter]
    #19397421 - 01/10/14 05:47 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Yeah sure, somebody explained it wrong. Get your nozzle about a foot away from the cakes and mist until it glistens, then fan out for 30-60 seconds. Get everything wet, mushrooms, pins, mycelium, vermiculite and perlite should all get misted.

If you UTSF you'll find your answer also...


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Re: Misting properly [Re: urthtown]
    #19397426 - 01/10/14 05:49 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Evaporation from the substrate is a key pinning trigger along with full colonization and fresh air exchange (which plays a role in the evaporation from the substrate).


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Re: Misting properly [Re: mushmagic]
    #19397438 - 01/10/14 05:56 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Same with cased rye seed?

Im just about to use the bubble wrap tek also as soon as my spawn has colonised the substrate.  So for this I should lift bubble wrap mist fan, replace?

Oh and by the way im using boiled water.


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Re: Misting properly [Re: Edmunter]
    #19397452 - 01/10/14 06:06 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Pinning triggers are the same no matter what you're fruiting off of.

Yes, lift, mist, fan, replace.

No need to use boiled water for misting. Fully colonized substrates are pretty contam resistant. tap water is just fine.


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Re: Misting properly [Re: Edmunter]
    #19397490 - 01/10/14 06:29 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

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Edmunter said:
Hello shroomers!, 

In a thread a while back somebody mentioned that whilst misting I should avoid getting mist on the mycellium(whilst pinning)?  Can somebody explain this a little bit deeper please?

:mushroom2:




If a TC ever said something so horribly wrong as that, he or she would no longer be a TC.  Always look for good advice.  If in doubt, look for the trusted cultivator tag or search using the TC Tag as one of the filters.
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Re: Misting properly [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19397496 - 01/10/14 06:31 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Bubble wrap tek is kind of silly


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Re: Misting properly [Re: Stromrider]
    #19397511 - 01/10/14 06:36 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Please elaborate on this?  I've read a few peoples opinions on this and they seem to know what they are talking about, however please give your opinion as it all helps(or does nt).  ATM im experimenting with different ways to find out what's best for me.  As RR just said you have to be careful what you believe as some advise is poor.


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Re: Misting properly [Re: Edmunter]
    #19397582 - 01/10/14 07:04 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Bubble wrap tek is kind of outdated. How old were the threads you were reading?

It's been found that if you provide a proper environment bubble wrap is just not needed. The easiest way to provide a proper fruiting environment for growing cubensis mushrooms on a bulk substrate is in a properly dialed in monotub. If your growing on cakes a sgfc is the way to go.


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Re: Misting properly [Re: Stromrider]
    #19397623 - 01/10/14 07:15 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)



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Re: Misting properly [Re: Edmunter]
    #19397639 - 01/10/14 07:20 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Read the big red disclaimer at the top. It states pretty much what I was saying. If you provide the right environment it's just not needed or necessary.


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Re: Misting properly [Re: Stromrider]
    #19397695 - 01/10/14 07:41 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

So? :shrug:

Bubble wrap or wax paper, etc., can help provide an environment conducive to pinning.

I dislike the term 'bubble wrap tek' or 'wax paper tek' for the reason it's interpreted by new growers to be a 'tek' and not a single part of a much larger picture.  All a synthetic covering does is provide a humid microclimate right at the surface of the substrate where pins form.  A casing layer does the same thing, except that a casing layer also provides a conduit to add moisture to the substrate.

Obviously if the correct environment is maintained a synthetic covering or casing layer isn't necessary.  Many growers have less than optimum conditions.  I've fruited trays successfully in open air without any sort of fruiting chamber simply by placing wrinkled up wax paper over them.
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Re: Misting properly [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19397842 - 01/10/14 08:31 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Tmethyl burned too brightly and too quickly... sad really.

not to take away from the subject at hand.


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Re: Misting properly [Re: tropicalfrenzy]
    #19397860 - 01/10/14 08:39 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

this is from his How it should and shouldn't look:



it shows pinning only where the trash bag liner had been lying over the sub.
bubble wrap can be a good option if you find it hard to achieve proper conditions.


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Re: Misting properly [Re: spacechildo]
    #19397871 - 01/10/14 08:47 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

looks like something I found in the woods.. :laugh:


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Re: Misting properly [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19397960 - 01/10/14 09:12 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

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So? :shrug:

Bubble wrap or wax paper, etc., can help provide an environment conducive to pinning.

I dislike the term 'bubble wrap tek' or 'wax paper tek' for the reason it's interpreted by new growers to be a 'tek' and not a single part of a much larger picture.  All a synthetic covering does is provide a humid microclimate right at the surface of the substrate where pins form.  A casing layer does the same thing, except that a casing layer also provides a conduit to add moisture to the substrate.

Obviously if the correct environment is maintained a synthetic covering or casing layer isn't necessary.  Many growers have less than optimum conditions.  I've fruited trays successfully in open air without any sort of fruiting chamber simply by placing wrinkled up wax paper over them.
RR




Ok.... Didn't you just basically repeat what I said only with more words?


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Re: Misting properly [Re: Stromrider]
    #19398269 - 01/10/14 10:25 AM (10 years, 21 days ago)

Similar, but definitely not the same.  There was definitely more interesting info given in a much humbler tone.  However,  If it helps........Your right!

Now back to bubble wrap, Im gonna give it a go a report back to see if I get any better results.  It may be a good way for me to get a decent pinning set before I manage to get my optimum growing conditions, in the winter, in the UK.  Im getting better every grow and im totally hooked on both growing and eating mushrooms.  Never felt so good.


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